Palestinian right of return

Ottoman documents show that the vast majority of the people were Christian and Muslims. There is even a documentary film, by the Lumiere brothers about Palestine in 1896, which confirms that Jews were less than 5% of the population during Ottoman times.

 
Antares is a puss, billo, yes, but the Israelis are not.

They will not leave Israel, ever.
We're not talking about them leaving Israel. We're talking about them leaving the territory they seized in a war. Conquer by conquest has been outlawed since the end of WWII. Allowing Israel to keep any of that land, would be like saying it was okay for Hitler to annex Poland. And no one on the planet is going to do that.




What land have they seized then, care to produce a definitive link to this seized land.
 
Ottoman documents show that the vast majority of the people were Christian and Muslims. There is even a documentary film, by the Lumiere brothers about Palestine in 1896, which confirms that Jews were less than 5% of the population during Ottoman times.






Now go back to 1850 when the Jews were first invited to settle and see what the numbers were. Because the arab muslims started to migrate in the 1870's. So your film is worthless as evidence for anything but the day, month and year it was made.
 
Good luck with that, you'll have as much success getting that to happen as you would of forcing me to anything.
If you came to my house one day and said it was yours, because your religion said so, I'd force you off my property and there wouldn't be a god-damn thing you could do about it.


In other words, you're fucked, and you'll just have to continue to rage against the machine.
I liked that band!



Not if you were squatting on the land, then the full weight of the law would come down on you
 
Ottoman documents show that the vast majority of the people were Christian and Muslims. There is even a documentary film, by the Lumiere brothers about Palestine in 1896, which confirms that Jews were less than 5% of the population during Ottoman times.






Now go back to 1850 when the Jews were first invited to settle and see what the numbers were. Because the arab muslims started to migrate in the 1870's. So your film is worthless as evidence for anything but the day, month and year it was made.


Before 1850 there hardly any Jews in Palestine as has been reported in official British reports and as you well know:

"There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. In the following 30 years a few hundreds came to Palestine."

Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations Balfour Declaration text 30 July 1921
 
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The Palestinian right of return (Arabic: حق العودة‎, Ḥaqq al-ʿawda; Hebrew: זְכוּת הַשִׁיבָה, zkhut hashivah) is a political position or principle asserting that Palestinian refugees, both first-generation refugees (c. 30 to 50,000 people as of 2012) and their descendants (c. 5 million people as of 2012), have a right to return, and a right to the property they themselves or their forebears left behind or were forced to leave in what is now Israel and the Palestinian territories (both formerly part of the British Mandate of Palestine), as part of the 1948 Palestinian exodus, a result of the 1948 Palestine war and due to the 1967 Six-Day War.

Proponents of the right of return hold that it is a "sacred" right,[3] as well as an inalienable and basic human right, whose applicability both generally and specifically to the Palestinians is protected under international law.[4] This view holds that those who opt not to return or for whom return is not feasible, should receive compensation in lieu. Opponents of the right of return hold that there is no basis for it in international law, and that it is an unrealistic demand.[5]

The government of Israel regards the claim as a Palestinian ambit claim, and does not view the admission of Palestinian refugees to their former homes in Israel as a right, but rather as a political claim to be resolved as part of a final peace settlement.[6][7]"

Palestinian right of return - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

There can be NO agreement until this demand is dropped by the Palestinians.
Oh, I see. The Jews can return after 3000 years, but the Pals can't after 70?

There were Jews living in Algeria, and Libya and other ME countries who were thrown out at the time of the war. They were Jews, but they were not in Israel at the time so they couldnt even be considered Israelis. They were just Jewish. What would a Jewish family living in Morroco have to do with the Israeli Arab warCan their families get their land back? no way, they would most likely be killed even if they did. Its just the way it is, and Lost Jewish land is never mentioned, thats because the Entire ME is Muslim. So many places for a muslim to live in safety (except from each other) and so few places in the world for a Jew to live safely. Most of Europe does not want Jews, that has a LOT to do with why they went to Israel, they had been persecuted for hundreds of years there , not even mentioning the Holocaust.
 
Ask your psychologist if you still can't find the answer for that.
I'm not the one making the claim.

If you can't say why you said something, then what you said, is a bunch of bullshit.

I base that claim on your posts. If you can't see how others may grasp what you say, then you need some debate classes. you learn that on your first day
 
Ottoman documents show that the vast majority of the people were Christian and Muslims. There is even a documentary film, by the Lumiere brothers about Palestine in 1896, which confirms that Jews were less than 5% of the population during Ottoman times.






Now go back to 1850 when the Jews were first invited to settle and see what the numbers were. Because the arab muslims started to migrate in the 1870's. So your film is worthless as evidence for anything but the day, month and year it was made.


Before 1850 there hardly any Jews in Palestine as has been reported in official British reports and as you well know:

"There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. In the following 30 years a few hundreds came to Palestine."

Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations Balfour Declaration text 30 July 1921






BULLSHIT
 
"
The Palestinian right of return (Arabic: حق العودة‎, Ḥaqq al-ʿawda; Hebrew: זְכוּת הַשִׁיבָה, zkhut hashivah) is a political position or principle asserting that Palestinian refugees, both first-generation refugees (c. 30 to 50,000 people as of 2012) and their descendants (c. 5 million people as of 2012), have a right to return, and a right to the property they themselves or their forebears left behind or were forced to leave in what is now Israel and the Palestinian territories (both formerly part of the British Mandate of Palestine), as part of the 1948 Palestinian exodus, a result of the 1948 Palestine war and due to the 1967 Six-Day War.

Proponents of the right of return hold that it is a "sacred" right,[3] as well as an inalienable and basic human right, whose applicability both generally and specifically to the Palestinians is protected under international law.[4] This view holds that those who opt not to return or for whom return is not feasible, should receive compensation in lieu. Opponents of the right of return hold that there is no basis for it in international law, and that it is an unrealistic demand.[5]

The government of Israel regards the claim as a Palestinian ambit claim, and does not view the admission of Palestinian refugees to their former homes in Israel as a right, but rather as a political claim to be resolved as part of a final peace settlement.[6][7]"

Palestinian right of return - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

There can be NO agreement until this demand is dropped by the Palestinians.
Oh, I see. The Jews can return after 3000 years, but the Pals can't after 70?

There were Jews living in Algeria, and Libya and other ME countries who were thrown out at the time of the war. They were Jews, but they were not in Israel at the time so they couldnt even be considered Israelis. They were just Jewish. What would a Jewish family living in Morroco have to do with the Israeli Arab warCan their families get their land back? no way, they would most likely be killed even if they did. Its just the way it is, and Lost Jewish land is never mentioned, thats because the Entire ME is Muslim. So many places for a muslim to live in safety (except from each other) and so few places in the world for a Jew to live safely. Most of Europe does not want Jews, that has a LOT to do with why they went to Israel, they had been persecuted for hundreds of years there , not even mentioning the Holocaust.




I have put forward a plan to give the arab muslims two acres of stolen Jewish land in the M.E in return for 1 acre of land in gaza and the west bank. Not one of the team Palestine members think that it is a good idea as the arab muslims would lose all they claim and some. Because the amount of land stolen in 1948-1949 amounts to 4 times the land mass of the original Palestine.
 
Jews have lived in the area for 3,000 years.

The Zionists came home.

The Palestinians would not share and got their asses kicked.

Billo, that's the history, it is not going to change, and if the Arabs ever do overrun Israel, the Middle East metropolises will be cindered for several life generations.

There you have the history (then, now, future) if the Palestinians don't make nice.
Palestinian-Jews and Palestinian-Arabs have both lived in that area for the last 3000 years. The only difference, is that the Arabs were the majority.
And like our indigenous Native Americans, always the losers.
 
I base that claim on your posts. If you can't see how others may grasp what you say, then you need some debate classes. you learn that on your first day
What I say, has to do with my intentions and the point I'm making, not your perception of what I'm saying. And if you don't understand the point I'm making, then you don't know what you're responding to. And if you don't know what you're responding to, then you don't know what you're talking about.

But lets cut the crap, we both know the only reason you call me a "Jew-hater", is because that's all you got.
 
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The Palestinian right of return . . . . The government of Israel regards the claim as a Palestinian ambit claim, and does not view the admission of Palestinian refugees to their former homes in Israel as a right, but rather as a political claim to be resolved as part of a final peace settlement.[6][7]"

. . . . whose applicability both generally and specifically to the Palestinians is protected under international law.[4] This view holds that those who opt not to return or for whom return is not feasible, should receive compensation in lieu. Opponents of the right of return hold that there is no basis for it in international law, and that it is an unrealistic demand.[5] . . . .

OK, then the American "Indians" (who were never in India) have a right to take back the entire country we live in.

marvin
Lakhota and the tribe can try.
 
I love Indian casinos.

OK, put the Palestinians in the Sinai and make it Casino Nation.

They will all forget about Israel in 14 seconds.
 
In your case, I'd chalk it up to low intelligence, poor self esteem, lack of personal accomplishment and WAY too many drugs during your formative years.
That's bullshit!

I smoked pot every day for 20 straight years and I'm as sharp as a ..............um.................uh.................sharp as a................mmmm...............tack!
 

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