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RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Self-defense is Legal (CHAPTER VII: ACTION WITH RESPECT TO THREATS TO THE PEACE, BREACHES OF THE PEACE, AND ACTS OF AGGRESSION • Article 51)

Self defense and liberation are legal.
(COMMENT)

A liberation is a form of Self-Defense. The Arab Palestinians in the disputed territories were under Article 77 Trusteeship.

The problem is → it was the Arab League that acted first and established the initial occupation of the West Bank, Gaza Strip and Jerusalem (all of which were trustee territories). That makes the Arab League the aggressors as they opened hostilities.

Most Respectfully,
R
There is no dispute. Palestine has international borders. They are not disputed by any of their neighbors.
 
A basic tenant under the Rule of Law is that No contract, binding agreement or treaty on criminal activity is enforceable, sound or valid. You asking for such an impossibility only demonstrates you are having problems groping with the basics of the issues at hand.
That is why whenever I ask for a treaty you bounce.
 
RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Self-defense is Legal (CHAPTER VII: ACTION WITH RESPECT TO THREATS TO THE PEACE, BREACHES OF THE PEACE, AND ACTS OF AGGRESSION • Article 51)

Self defense and liberation are legal.
(COMMENT)

A liberation is a form of Self-Defense. The Arab Palestinians in the disputed territories were under Article 77 Trusteeship.

The problem is → it was the Arab League that acted first and established the initial occupation of the West Bank, Gaza Strip and Jerusalem (all of which were trustee territories). That makes the Arab League the aggressors as they opened hostilities.

Most Respectfully,
R
There is no dispute. Palestine has international borders. They are not disputed by any of their neighbors.

“ Borders that Jordan and Egypt had that were not disputed or challenged by the “ International Community?”
Territory that Jordan formally annexed April 24, 1950?? :auiqs.jpg::auiqs.jpg:
 
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RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Self-defense is Legal (CHAPTER VII: ACTION WITH RESPECT TO THREATS TO THE PEACE, BREACHES OF THE PEACE, AND ACTS OF AGGRESSION • Article 51)

Self defense and liberation are legal.
(COMMENT)

A liberation is a form of Self-Defense. The Arab Palestinians in the disputed territories were under Article 77 Trusteeship.

The problem is → it was the Arab League that acted first and established the initial occupation of the West Bank, Gaza Strip and Jerusalem (all of which were trustee territories). That makes the Arab League the aggressors as they opened hostilities.

Most Respectfully,
R
There is no dispute. Palestine has international borders. They are not disputed by any of their neighbors.
Haha haha .
No , Palestine does not have international borders. Where’s your link BTW
 
RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Self-defense is Legal (CHAPTER VII: ACTION WITH RESPECT TO THREATS TO THE PEACE, BREACHES OF THE PEACE, AND ACTS OF AGGRESSION • Article 51)

Self defense and liberation are legal.
(COMMENT)

A liberation is a form of Self-Defense. The Arab Palestinians in the disputed territories were under Article 77 Trusteeship.

The problem is → it was the Arab League that acted first and established the initial occupation of the West Bank, Gaza Strip and Jerusalem (all of which were trustee territories). That makes the Arab League the aggressors as they opened hostilities.

Most Respectfully,
R
There is no dispute. Palestine has international borders. They are not disputed by any of their neighbors.
Haha haha .
No , Palestine does not have international borders. Where’s your link BTW
The Avalon Project : Lebanese-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, March 23, 1949
The Avalon Project : Israeli-Syrian General Armistice Agreement, July 20, 1949
The Avalon Project : Jordanian-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, April 3, 1949
The Avalon Project : Egyptian-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, February 24, 1949

Thanks for asking.:113::113::113:
 
RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,
Self-defense is Legal (CHAPTER VII: ACTION WITH RESPECT TO THREATS TO THE PEACE, BREACHES OF THE PEACE, AND ACTS OF AGGRESSION • Article 51)
Except for the Palestinians, of course. :cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo:
(COMMENT)

What territorial sovereignty are the Arab Palestinians defending?

IF the Arab Palestinians actually had a territory they once had sovereignty over, THEN terms like "borders," "liberate," and "defend" would be applicable. But as it stands, even the Arab Palestinians have a difficult time with the question: What territory do they control? Even the issue of The Gaza Strip is contentious when asked what Palestinian faction has actually placed The Gaza Strip under the authority?

Most Respectfully,
R
 
RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

I find it absolutely incredible that you use false and inaccurate information, which is deliberately intended to deceive reader and yet to look authentic. In context, these are half-truths. Each has and enforcement period.

(COMMENT)

The real truth and boundaries that apply to the West Bank and Jerusalem are:

Israel-Jordan Armistice Agreement (3 April 1949)
See Article XII § 2: "shall remain in force until a peaceful settlement between the Parties is achieved"
See the Peaceful Settlement: Article 3 - International Boundary → "The international boundary between Jordan and Israel is delimited with reference to the boundary definition under the Mandate as is shown in Annex I (a), on the mapping materials attached thereto and coordinates specified therein."​

The real truth and boundaries that apply to the Gaza Strip are:

Armistice Egyptian-Israel S/1264/Corr.1 of 23 February 1949
See Article XII § 2: "shall remain in force until a peaceful settlement between the Parties is achieved"
See the Peaceful Settlement: Article II "The permanent boundary between Egypt and Israel is the recognized international boundary between Egypt and the former mandated territory of Palestine, as shown on the map at Annex II, without prejudice to the issue of the status of the Gaza Strip. The Parties recognize this boundary as inviolable. Each will respect the territorial integrity of the other, including their territorial waters and airspace."​


Most Respectfully,
R
 
RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Self-defense is Legal (CHAPTER VII: ACTION WITH RESPECT TO THREATS TO THE PEACE, BREACHES OF THE PEACE, AND ACTS OF AGGRESSION • Article 51)

Self defense and liberation are legal.
(COMMENT)

A liberation is a form of Self-Defense. The Arab Palestinians in the disputed territories were under Article 77 Trusteeship.

The problem is → it was the Arab League that acted first and established the initial occupation of the West Bank, Gaza Strip and Jerusalem (all of which were trustee territories). That makes the Arab League the aggressors as they opened hostilities.

Most Respectfully,
R
There is no dispute. Palestine has international borders. They are not disputed by any of their neighbors.
Haha haha .
No , Palestine does not have international borders. Where’s your link BTW
The Avalon Project : Lebanese-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, March 23, 1949
The Avalon Project : Israeli-Syrian General Armistice Agreement, July 20, 1949
The Avalon Project : Jordanian-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, April 3, 1949
The Avalon Project : Egyptian-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, February 24, 1949

Thanks for asking.:113::113::113:
You’re welcome. Unfortunately for you , nothing in your links prove that Palestine has international borders . Nice try though. Big fail BTW :lol:
 
OK, show me one treaty or convention that will allow Israel to conquer or annex Palestinian territory.

Israel doesn't need to "conquer" or "annex" anything,
all is required is to apply sovereignty to territory it is already fully entitled under international law.

Question rather, what binding document ever mentions Arab sovereignty?
Which Arabs?

I don't know, that's why I keep asking.:dunno:

What binding document, ever, entitled anyone, to establish Arab sovereignty in the land?
 
RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

I find it absolutely incredible that you use false and inaccurate information, which is deliberately intended to deceive reader and yet to look authentic. In context, these are half-truths. Each has and enforcement period.

(COMMENT)

The real truth and boundaries that apply to the West Bank and Jerusalem are:

Israel-Jordan Armistice Agreement (3 April 1949)
See Article XII § 2: "shall remain in force until a peaceful settlement between the Parties is achieved"
See the Peaceful Settlement: Article 3 - International Boundary → "The international boundary between Jordan and Israel is delimited with reference to the boundary definition under the Mandate as is shown in Annex I (a), on the mapping materials attached thereto and coordinates specified therein."​

The real truth and boundaries that apply to the Gaza Strip are:

Armistice Egyptian-Israel S/1264/Corr.1 of 23 February 1949
See Article XII § 2: "shall remain in force until a peaceful settlement between the Parties is achieved"
See the Peaceful Settlement: Article II "The permanent boundary between Egypt and Israel is the recognized international boundary between Egypt and the former mandated territory of Palestine, as shown on the map at Annex II, without prejudice to the issue of the status of the Gaza Strip. The Parties recognize this boundary as inviolable. Each will respect the territorial integrity of the other, including their territorial waters and airspace."​


Most Respectfully,
R
What do Israel, Egypt, and Jordan have to do with Palestine's international borders?

Nice deflection though.
 
RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,
Self-defense is Legal (CHAPTER VII: ACTION WITH RESPECT TO THREATS TO THE PEACE, BREACHES OF THE PEACE, AND ACTS OF AGGRESSION • Article 51)
Except for the Palestinians, of course. :cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo:
(COMMENT)

What territorial sovereignty are the Arab Palestinians defending?

IF the Arab Palestinians actually had a territory they once had sovereignty over, THEN terms like "borders," "liberate," and "defend" would be applicable. But as it stands, even the Arab Palestinians have a difficult time with the question: What territory do they control? Even the issue of The Gaza Strip is contentious when asked what Palestinian faction has actually placed The Gaza Strip under the authority?

Most Respectfully,
R
Are you still pimping Israel's unsubstantiated talking points?
 
RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

I find it absolutely incredible that you use false and inaccurate information, which is deliberately intended to deceive reader and yet to look authentic. In context, these are half-truths. Each has and enforcement period.

(COMMENT)

The real truth and boundaries that apply to the West Bank and Jerusalem are:

Israel-Jordan Armistice Agreement (3 April 1949)
See Article XII § 2: "shall remain in force until a peaceful settlement between the Parties is achieved"
See the Peaceful Settlement: Article 3 - International Boundary → "The international boundary between Jordan and Israel is delimited with reference to the boundary definition under the Mandate as is shown in Annex I (a), on the mapping materials attached thereto and coordinates specified therein."​

The real truth and boundaries that apply to the Gaza Strip are:

Armistice Egyptian-Israel S/1264/Corr.1 of 23 February 1949
See Article XII § 2: "shall remain in force until a peaceful settlement between the Parties is achieved"
See the Peaceful Settlement: Article II "The permanent boundary between Egypt and Israel is the recognized international boundary between Egypt and the former mandated territory of Palestine, as shown on the map at Annex II, without prejudice to the issue of the status of the Gaza Strip. The Parties recognize this boundary as inviolable. Each will respect the territorial integrity of the other, including their territorial waters and airspace."​


Most Respectfully,
R
What do Israel, Egypt, and Jordan have to do with Palestine's international borders?

Nice deflection though.
Israel is the nation entitled to those international borders, by definition.
 
RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

I find it absolutely incredible that you use false and inaccurate information, which is deliberately intended to deceive reader and yet to look authentic. In context, these are half-truths. Each has and enforcement period.

(COMMENT)

The real truth and boundaries that apply to the West Bank and Jerusalem are:

Israel-Jordan Armistice Agreement (3 April 1949)
See Article XII § 2: "shall remain in force until a peaceful settlement between the Parties is achieved"
See the Peaceful Settlement: Article 3 - International Boundary → "The international boundary between Jordan and Israel is delimited with reference to the boundary definition under the Mandate as is shown in Annex I (a), on the mapping materials attached thereto and coordinates specified therein."​

The real truth and boundaries that apply to the Gaza Strip are:

Armistice Egyptian-Israel S/1264/Corr.1 of 23 February 1949
See Article XII § 2: "shall remain in force until a peaceful settlement between the Parties is achieved"
See the Peaceful Settlement: Article II "The permanent boundary between Egypt and Israel is the recognized international boundary between Egypt and the former mandated territory of Palestine, as shown on the map at Annex II, without prejudice to the issue of the status of the Gaza Strip. The Parties recognize this boundary as inviolable. Each will respect the territorial integrity of the other, including their territorial waters and airspace."​


Most Respectfully,
R
What do Israel, Egypt, and Jordan have to do with Palestine's international borders?

Nice deflection though.
Uhh , it’s quite simple . They have DECLARED AND INTERNATIONAL borders with Israel, not with Palestine . Simple as that. We’ve proved it to you many times , yet you can’t handle the truth.
 
RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,
Self-defense is Legal (CHAPTER VII: ACTION WITH RESPECT TO THREATS TO THE PEACE, BREACHES OF THE PEACE, AND ACTS OF AGGRESSION • Article 51)
Except for the Palestinians, of course. :cuckoo::cuckoo::cuckoo:
(COMMENT)

What territorial sovereignty are the Arab Palestinians defending?

IF the Arab Palestinians actually had a territory they once had sovereignty over, THEN terms like "borders," "liberate," and "defend" would be applicable. But as it stands, even the Arab Palestinians have a difficult time with the question: What territory do they control? Even the issue of The Gaza Strip is contentious when asked what Palestinian faction has actually placed The Gaza Strip under the authority?

Most Respectfully,
R
Are you still pimping Israel's unsubstantiated talking points?
Are you still pimping Palestine’s unsubstantiated talking points ?
 
RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Self-defense is Legal (CHAPTER VII: ACTION WITH RESPECT TO THREATS TO THE PEACE, BREACHES OF THE PEACE, AND ACTS OF AGGRESSION • Article 51)

Self defense and liberation are legal.
(COMMENT)

A liberation is a form of Self-Defense. The Arab Palestinians in the disputed territories were under Article 77 Trusteeship.

The problem is → it was the Arab League that acted first and established the initial occupation of the West Bank, Gaza Strip and Jerusalem (all of which were trustee territories). That makes the Arab League the aggressors as they opened hostilities.

Most Respectfully,
R
There is no dispute. Palestine has international borders. They are not disputed by any of their neighbors.
Haha haha .
No , Palestine does not have international borders. Where’s your link BTW
The Avalon Project : Lebanese-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, March 23, 1949
The Avalon Project : Israeli-Syrian General Armistice Agreement, July 20, 1949
The Avalon Project : Jordanian-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, April 3, 1949
The Avalon Project : Egyptian-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, February 24, 1949

Thanks for asking.:113::113::113:
You’re welcome. Unfortunately for you , nothing in your links prove that Palestine has international borders . Nice try though. Big fail BTW :lol:
You’re welcome. Unfortunately for you , nothing in your links prove that Palestine has international borders .
You have to read the links. :290968001256257790-final:
 
RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

I find it absolutely incredible that you use false and inaccurate information, which is deliberately intended to deceive reader and yet to look authentic. In context, these are half-truths. Each has and enforcement period.

(COMMENT)

The real truth and boundaries that apply to the West Bank and Jerusalem are:

Israel-Jordan Armistice Agreement (3 April 1949)
See Article XII § 2: "shall remain in force until a peaceful settlement between the Parties is achieved"
See the Peaceful Settlement: Article 3 - International Boundary → "The international boundary between Jordan and Israel is delimited with reference to the boundary definition under the Mandate as is shown in Annex I (a), on the mapping materials attached thereto and coordinates specified therein."​

The real truth and boundaries that apply to the Gaza Strip are:

Armistice Egyptian-Israel S/1264/Corr.1 of 23 February 1949
See Article XII § 2: "shall remain in force until a peaceful settlement between the Parties is achieved"
See the Peaceful Settlement: Article II "The permanent boundary between Egypt and Israel is the recognized international boundary between Egypt and the former mandated territory of Palestine, as shown on the map at Annex II, without prejudice to the issue of the status of the Gaza Strip. The Parties recognize this boundary as inviolable. Each will respect the territorial integrity of the other, including their territorial waters and airspace."​


Most Respectfully,
R
What do Israel, Egypt, and Jordan have to do with Palestine's international borders?

Nice deflection though.
Uhh , it’s quite simple . They have DECLARED AND INTERNATIONAL borders with Israel, not with Palestine . Simple as that. We’ve proved it to you many times , yet you can’t handle the truth.

When nothing works against facts, all he has left is to hide behind semantics,
will get there very soon at last resort, You'll see.

It's the potato/potatoe argument.
 
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RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

Self-defense is Legal (CHAPTER VII: ACTION WITH RESPECT TO THREATS TO THE PEACE, BREACHES OF THE PEACE, AND ACTS OF AGGRESSION • Article 51)

(COMMENT)

A liberation is a form of Self-Defense. The Arab Palestinians in the disputed territories were under Article 77 Trusteeship.

The problem is → it was the Arab League that acted first and established the initial occupation of the West Bank, Gaza Strip and Jerusalem (all of which were trustee territories). That makes the Arab League the aggressors as they opened hostilities.

Most Respectfully,
R
There is no dispute. Palestine has international borders. They are not disputed by any of their neighbors.
Haha haha .
No , Palestine does not have international borders. Where’s your link BTW
The Avalon Project : Lebanese-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, March 23, 1949
The Avalon Project : Israeli-Syrian General Armistice Agreement, July 20, 1949
The Avalon Project : Jordanian-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, April 3, 1949
The Avalon Project : Egyptian-Israeli General Armistice Agreement, February 24, 1949

Thanks for asking.:113::113::113:
You’re welcome. Unfortunately for you , nothing in your links prove that Palestine has international borders . Nice try though. Big fail BTW :lol:
You’re welcome. Unfortunately for you , nothing in your links prove that Palestine has international borders .
You have to read the links. :290968001256257790-final:
For you
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borders_of_Israel
 
RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

I find it absolutely incredible that you use false and inaccurate information, which is deliberately intended to deceive reader and yet to look authentic. In context, these are half-truths. Each has and enforcement period.

(COMMENT)

The real truth and boundaries that apply to the West Bank and Jerusalem are:

Israel-Jordan Armistice Agreement (3 April 1949)
See Article XII § 2: "shall remain in force until a peaceful settlement between the Parties is achieved"
See the Peaceful Settlement: Article 3 - International Boundary → "The international boundary between Jordan and Israel is delimited with reference to the boundary definition under the Mandate as is shown in Annex I (a), on the mapping materials attached thereto and coordinates specified therein."​

The real truth and boundaries that apply to the Gaza Strip are:

Armistice Egyptian-Israel S/1264/Corr.1 of 23 February 1949
See Article XII § 2: "shall remain in force until a peaceful settlement between the Parties is achieved"
See the Peaceful Settlement: Article II "The permanent boundary between Egypt and Israel is the recognized international boundary between Egypt and the former mandated territory of Palestine, as shown on the map at Annex II, without prejudice to the issue of the status of the Gaza Strip. The Parties recognize this boundary as inviolable. Each will respect the territorial integrity of the other, including their territorial waters and airspace."​


Most Respectfully,
R
What do Israel, Egypt, and Jordan have to do with Palestine's international borders?

Nice deflection though.
Uhh , it’s quite simple . They have DECLARED AND INTERNATIONAL borders with Israel, not with Palestine . Simple as that. We’ve proved it to you many times , yet you can’t handle the truth.
Israel claiming borders on land that the UN calls Palestine is an interesting legal concept.

The US paying Egypt and Jordan billions to accept those borders is another interesting legal concept.
 
RE: Palestine Today
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

I find it absolutely incredible that you use false and inaccurate information, which is deliberately intended to deceive reader and yet to look authentic. In context, these are half-truths. Each has and enforcement period.

(COMMENT)

The real truth and boundaries that apply to the West Bank and Jerusalem are:

Israel-Jordan Armistice Agreement (3 April 1949)
See Article XII § 2: "shall remain in force until a peaceful settlement between the Parties is achieved"
See the Peaceful Settlement: Article 3 - International Boundary → "The international boundary between Jordan and Israel is delimited with reference to the boundary definition under the Mandate as is shown in Annex I (a), on the mapping materials attached thereto and coordinates specified therein."​

The real truth and boundaries that apply to the Gaza Strip are:

Armistice Egyptian-Israel S/1264/Corr.1 of 23 February 1949
See Article XII § 2: "shall remain in force until a peaceful settlement between the Parties is achieved"
See the Peaceful Settlement: Article II "The permanent boundary between Egypt and Israel is the recognized international boundary between Egypt and the former mandated territory of Palestine, as shown on the map at Annex II, without prejudice to the issue of the status of the Gaza Strip. The Parties recognize this boundary as inviolable. Each will respect the territorial integrity of the other, including their territorial waters and airspace."​


Most Respectfully,
R
What do Israel, Egypt, and Jordan have to do with Palestine's international borders?

Nice deflection though.
Uhh , it’s quite simple . They have DECLARED AND INTERNATIONAL borders with Israel, not with Palestine . Simple as that. We’ve proved it to you many times , yet you can’t handle the truth.
Israel claiming borders on land that the UN calls Palestine is an interesting legal concept.

The US paying Egypt and Jordan billions to accept those borders is another interesting legal concept.

So you got into potato/potatoe argument even sooner then I expcted.

Same UN also draws all of its (limited) authority from the same legal instruments that entitle those borders to the nation of Israel.

Now you start dancing in circles...:heehee:
 
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