PA Names Public Square After Homicide Terrorist

[GHook93]

The point is that the PA publically honors mass muderers.

And people expect Israel to give away the precious land it has for vague promises of peace from mass murderers, who publically acknowledge, and even name a public square, in honor of a scumbag who murders 37 civilians on a public bus.

So does Israel: Israel celebrates Irgun hotel bombers - Telegraph

A bit hypocritical to get all upset about it.

Yep this is sticky, but many differences:
(1) This is a hotel doing the dedication, not the fucking government.
(2) There was a plague (which also stated what he did), not a public square.
(3) There were NO causalities in the King David Hotel Bombing. Irgun called ahead and warned everyone to leave. Not the case with the Palestinian homicide bomber.
(4) There is no open and on-going conflict between the UK and Israel! Not the same btw the Israelis and Palestinians.
(5) The Israel is not trying to bring the UK to a negotiating table saying they are here in peace and respect; HOWEVER, the PA constantly says they want to come to the negotiating table and are all about peace.
(6) The British/Israeli "conflict" is well over. The Israeli/Palestinian conflict is still in motion.
(7) I am sure that Fatah and even Hamas will be recognized (justifiably) after Palestine is established, since both will probably be instrumental in its establishment. How is that any different that Irgun being honored after Israel's establish.

 

[GHook93]

A drop in the bucket compared to the civilians murdered by Israel.

The difference is that the arabs target civilians. Their goal is to kill as many civilians as possible.

Israel kills civilians because the arabs use them as human shields.

The point though is obviously the PA is not a party that Israel can trust. They are still honoring a terrorist that mass murdered 37 civilians on a public bus, including one american.

the difference is begin got a museum, not a crappy square.

next?

Where is Marc to call you a brain dead fucking stoner when you need him!

 

[del]

The point is that the PA publically honors mass muderers.

And people expect Israel to give away the precious land it has for vague promises of peace from mass murderers, who publically acknowledge, and even name a public square, in honor of a scumbag who murders 37 civilians on a public bus.

So does Israel: Israel celebrates Irgun hotel bombers - Telegraph

A bit hypocritical to get all upset about it.

Yep this is sticky, but many differences:
(1) This is a hotel doing the dedication, not the fucking government.
(2) There was a plague (which also stated what he did), not a public square.
(3) There were NO causalities in the King David Hotel Bombing. Irgun called ahead and warned everyone to leave. Not the case with the Palestinian homicide bomber.
(4) There is no open and on-going conflict between the UK and Israel! Not the same btw the Israelis and Palestinians.
(5) The Israel is not trying to bring the UK to a negotiating table saying they are here in peace and respect; HOWEVER, the PA constantly says they want to come to the negotiating table and are all about peace.
(6) The British/Israeli "conflict" is well over. The Israeli/Palestinian conflict is still in motion.
(7) I am sure that Fatah and even Hamas will be recognized (justifiably) after Palestine is established, since both will probably be instrumental in its establishment. How is that any different that Irgun being honored after Israel's establish.

91 people were killed, most of them being staff of the hotel or Secretariat: 21 were first-rank government officials; 49 were second-rank clerks, typists and messengers, junior members of the Secretariat, employees of the hotel and canteen workers; 13 were soldiers; 3 policemen; and 5 were members of the public.

lie much?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing

 

[del]

The difference is that the arabs target civilians. Their goal is to kill as many civilians as possible.

Israel kills civilians because the arabs use them as human shields.

The point though is obviously the PA is not a party that Israel can trust. They are still honoring a terrorist that mass murdered 37 civilians on a public bus, including one american.

the difference is begin got a museum, not a crappy square.

next?

Where is Marc to call you a brain dead fucking stoner when you need him!

probably cleaning mary j. blige's pool.

 

[Coyote]

Not really, the hotel was the military British headquarters. It was a military target. They were also given 3 warnings.

There is considerable evidence that the warnings were not given appropriately (to people who could act on it) nor with enough time to act. As for it being a "military target" - a considerable number of innocent civilians were killed.

Apparently, you think that is ok and something to be publically honored.

I just love how you guys try to excuse terrorism.

I do.

Attacking a military target is legitimate. As I said the hotel was the military headquarters for the British.

They should have taken the warnings seriously.

The british at the time were mass arresting jews and putting them in detention camps. Sound familar?

The British at the time were facing violence from multiple terrorist groups including Irgun. There is considerable controversy over those warnings and their effectiveness and whether they could possibly have given those in authority time to receive them and evacuate the building (total time was 15 minutes).

The King David Hotel housed the central offices of the British Mandatory authorities, Secretariat of the Government as well as Headquarters of the British Forces. It was not simply a "military target" - it was known to house many many civilians. 91 people were killed.

In fact, Irgun's motivation for the bomb was to destroy massive amounts of intelligence the British had gathered on Jewish terrorist and paramillitary groups: Irgun, Hagana, Lehi, Stern etc. that was stored there. The King David Hotel also contained their Criminal Investigation Division. No wonder they wanted to bomb it.

Irgun was responsible for a number of terrorist attacks against civilians that left many dead, including market place bombs and attacks on buses carrying Arabs.

Please explain to me why this group should be honored, because quite frankly, honoring the King David Hotel Bombing, is also honoring this group that is little different from Hamas except they ended up being the "winners" in this particular conflict.

You don't see the difference between attacking a military target, and murdering everyone on a public bus?

See above.

 

[CMike]

As I said the King David Hotel was the military headquaters for the british.

It's funny how Coyote neglected to mention this little tidbit when she posted it. It wasn't just a "hotel".

Very simple.

You are a terrrorist if your intention is to kill as many civilians as possible and spread terror.

The King David hotel was a legitimiate military target.

The PA's goal is the destruction of the entire state of Israel.

By honoring a mass murderer the PA is making it clear that they can not be trusted in any negotiation.

What's Israel supposed to do? Give up what little precious land it has for some vauge promises of peace that will never be honored? That would be suicide. That is exactly what the arabs want.

 

[xotoxi]

The point is that the PA publically honors mass muderers.

And people expect Israel to give away the precious land it has for vague promises of peace from mass murderers, who publically acknowledge, and even name a public square, in honor of a scumbag who murders 37 civilians on a public bus.

CMike...you seem to be INCREDIBLY outraged by this.

Why? Has your life changed for the worse since the public square was renamed?

How does the fact that the PA publically honors mass murderers effect your life?

 

[CMike]

British commit terrorism against the jews

Categoryeople executed by the British Mandate of Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[CMike]

The point is that the PA publically honors mass muderers.

And people expect Israel to give away the precious land it has for vague promises of peace from mass murderers, who publically acknowledge, and even name a public square, in honor of a scumbag who murders 37 civilians on a public bus.

CMike...you seem to be INCREDIBLY outraged by this.

Why? Has your life changed for the worse since the public square was renamed?

How does the fact that the PA publically honors mass murderers effect your life?

Are you aware you are on a message board?

 

[del]

British commit terrorism against the jews

Categoryeople executed by the British Mandate of Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

so executing terrorists is an act of terrorism?

 

[P F Tinmore]

As I said the King David Hotel was the military headquaters for the british.

It's funny how Coyote neglected to mention this little tidbit when she posted it. It wasn't just a "hotel".

Very simple.

You are a terrrorist if your intention is to kill as many civilians as possible and spread terror.

The King David hotel was a legitimiate military target.

The PA's goal is the destruction of the entire state of Israel.

By honoring a mass murderer the PA is making it clear that they can not be trusted in any negotiation.

What's Israel supposed to do? Give up what little precious land it has for some vauge promises of peace that will never be honored? That would be suicide. That is exactly what the arabs want.

Interesting. Palestinians consider Israel to be a legitimate military target.

 

[SpidermanTuba]

The homicide terrorist also murdered one American civilian as well as 36 Israeli civilians on a public bus.

If only he had done it by dropping a bomb from an airplane, he'd be an American hero.

 

[CMike]

British terrorism

This Day ... In Jewish History: This Day, June 29, In Jewish History

1946: This day was the Black Sabbath in Pre-state Israel. In the largest operation to date, thousands of British soldiers and policemen raid kibbutzim looking for hidden weapons. The British arrested 2,700 Jews living legally in Palestine in an attempt to destroy the Yishuv. The British dubbed this action “Operation Agatha” and Kibbutz Yagur, an important center for the Haganah, was a major focal point for their raids. The British claimed their actions were part of a plan to stamp out terrorism. Apparently, there were no Arab terrorists since no Arabs we arrested.

1946: A scheduled luncheon meeting between Abba Eban and Moshe Sharett is cancelled amid reports that the British are arresting large numbers of Zionist leaders.

 

[Coyote]

As I said the King David Hotel was the military headquaters for the british.

It's funny how Coyote neglected to mention this little tidbit when she posted it. It wasn't just a "hotel".

You don't read to well do you Mike...?

Here's what I said (it's in the post right above yours in case you need directions):

The King David Hotel housed the central offices of the British Mandatory authorities, Secretariat of the Government as well as Headquarters of the British Forces. It was not simply a "military target" - it was known to house many many civilians. 91 people were killed.

Very simple.

Simple, it housed the British mandate government offices - that is what the bulk of the people who died, were part of. Civilians. Irgun was a terrorist group responsible for the deaths of many innocent people. 91 people.

You are a terrrorist if your intention is to kill as many civilians as possible and spread terror.

Irgun was quite successful at that, look at their record.

The King David hotel was a legitimiate military target.

Debatable. Either way though, honoring a terrorist group responsible for many terrorist incidents is hardly a good thing....unless you are the winner.

The PA's goal is the destruction of the entire state of Israel.

Irrelevant.

By honoring a mass murderer the PA is making it clear that they can not be trusted in any negotiation.

Unsupported claims.

What's Israel supposed to do? Give up what little precious land it has for some vauge promises of peace that will never be honored? That would be suicide. That is exactly what the arabs want.

Deflection.

 

[CMike]

British commit terrorism against the jews

Categoryeople executed by the British Mandate of Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

so executing terrorists is an act of terrorism?

Who said they were terrorists? The Brits?

 

[del]

British commit terrorism against the jews

Categoryeople executed by the British Mandate of Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

so executing terrorists is an act of terrorism?

Who said they were terrorists? The Brits?

yeah, kinda like the israelis and the palis.

 

[Coyote]

British terrorism

This Day ... In Jewish History: This Day, June 29, In Jewish History

1946: This day was the Black Sabbath in Pre-state Israel. In the largest operation to date, thousands of British soldiers and policemen raid kibbutzim looking for hidden weapons. The British arrested 2,700 Jews living legally in Palestine in an attempt to destroy the Yishuv. The British dubbed this action “Operation Agatha” and Kibbutz Yagur, an important center for the Haganah, was a major focal point for their raids. The British claimed their actions were part of a plan to stamp out terrorism. Apparently, there were no Arab terrorists since no Arabs we arrested.

1946: A scheduled luncheon meeting between Abba Eban and Moshe Sharett is cancelled amid reports that the British are arresting large numbers of Zionist leaders.

Now that's a nice unbiased blog....so....they were arresting Zionist leaders...would those be Irgun? Lehi? Other terrorist groups?

How many innocent civilians did they kill? Did they bomb any market places for buses?

 

[xotoxi]

The point is that the PA publically honors mass muderers.

And people expect Israel to give away the precious land it has for vague promises of peace from mass murderers, who publically acknowledge, and even name a public square, in honor of a scumbag who murders 37 civilians on a public bus.

CMike...you seem to be INCREDIBLY outraged by this.

Why? Has your life changed for the worse since the public square was renamed?

How does the fact that the PA publically honors mass murderers effect your life?

Are you aware you are on a message board?

You didn't answer my question.

 

[Coyote]

British commit terrorism against the jews

Categoryeople executed by the British Mandate of Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

so executing terrorists is an act of terrorism?

Who said they were terrorists? The Brits?

When you set off bombs in market places and throw explosives at buses....umh.....that's generally considered "terrorist"....

 

[CMike]

As I said the King David Hotel was the military headquaters for the british.

It's funny how Coyote neglected to mention this little tidbit when she posted it. It wasn't just a "hotel".

You don't read to well do you Mike...?

Here's what I said (it's in the post right above yours in case you need directions):

The King David Hotel housed the central offices of the British Mandatory authorities, Secretariat of the Government as well as Headquarters of the British Forces. It was not simply a "military target" - it was known to house many many civilians. 91 people were killed.

Simple, it housed the British mandate government offices - that is what the bulk of the people who died, were part of. Civilians. Irgun was a terrorist group responsible for the deaths of many innocent people. 91 people.



Irgun was quite successful at that, look at their record.



Debatable. Either way though, honoring a terrorist group responsible for many terrorist incidents is hardly a good thing....unless you are the winner.



Irrelevant.

By honoring a mass murderer the PA is making it clear that they can not be trusted in any negotiation.

Unsupported claims.

What's Israel supposed to do? Give up what little precious land it has for some vauge promises of peace that will never be honored? That would be suicide. That is exactly what the arabs want.

Deflection.

The King David Hotel was the british military HQ. It was a military target. Period.

That is not terrorism.

This was your initial post.

"So does Israel: Israel celebrates Irgun hotel bombers - Telegraph

A bit hypocritical to get all upset about it."

How come you forgot to mention that the hotel was the british military HQ? Don't you think that would be relevant?

The US has attacked many buildings in Iraq and Afghanistan. Some civilians were killed that is part of war. Their intention was not to kill civilians it was to kill terrorists.

The same with the Irgun. Their aim wa to kill to kill the terrorists as well. Civilians were killed and that is regretable. That is war.