Fine say Biden screwed it up. Trump never proposed anything, except turning prisoners loose, cutting troops and getting the **** out. There's nothing to show it could have been better. Biden got us out, and nobody else did. But more than 70% wanted out. The people complaining now realize .... we lost. But we never had a winnable goal. W was good at that. I don't blame either Trump or Biden. They both tried to do the right, but distasteful, thing. Trump thought he'd get a nobel though. Not that Obama deserved one either. LOL