No. That's why I studied THEIR work. Have you studied THEIR work?
Zone1 Our Fine-Tuned Universe: Accident or Intelligent Design?
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You reached a conclusion on it did you not. The conclusion being that something with intent created the universe going by the entire OP. Not once did you leave doubt or room to doubt that conclusion you simply asserted it as true.
If you haven't studied how the universe was created, then it's not a claim. It is reality. Again... you want to dismiss the improbability and implausibility of a universe that popped into existence being hardwired to produce intelligence without ever knowing anything about why it was improbable and implausible. You are literally arguing from a position of ignorance. It is illogical for you to dismiss something you are ignorant about.
Yes, I have reached MY conclusions. You have too with much less study I might add. That does not mean I know what happened. I am arguing my position, just like you. But since you feel I am beating you, you have resorted to personal attacks.
No, I don’t know of a species more intelligent than humans. But intelligence exists in plenty of other creatures, and none of them have created intelligence beyond themselves. You said you’re an engineer—would you ever base a conclusion on a single data point? Because using humans as a proxy for all intelligence is exactly that—a sample size of one. That’s not how statistical significance works.
As an engineer I can tell you it would be idiotic to use a species that was less intelligent than humans as a proxy for answering the question is the nature of intelligence to create intelligence. Especially when humans are responsible for creating ARTIFICIAL MACHINE INTELLIGENCE.
Their conclusions ultimately boil down to 'we don’t know.' So how can you claim certainty when the very experts studying this don’t? If physicists and cosmologists admit the limits of knowledge, what gives you the authority to override them? And please, actually answer this question instead of sidestepping it
No no, not my question. Is a single data point EVER enough to draw a statistically significant inference. Don't dodge answer.
Really, then how do they explain the CMB if they don't know that the universe was created through paired particle production?
Do you know how the CMB was created?
Because everything I have read says the CMB could only be created through paired particle production. So I am not overriding anyone. I am following what they have discovered. Whereas you are overriding them by arguing they don't know. News flash: the big bang did happen and the universe did pop into existence and the CMB is the physical evidence for that.
All of which I'm pretty certain you have never studied.
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The existence of the CMB is well understood in standard cosmology as the remnant radiation from the Big Bang. While paired particle production is a proposed mechanism in certain models, it is not the only explanation for the universe’s formation. The question assumes that if scientists don’t know everything about paired particle production, they don’t understand the CMB, which is incorrect.
And even if this wasn't the case. It still wouldn't make intent or God a valid reasoning. It would STILL boil down to "I don't know."
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I am sure yer a regular Edgar Cayce, many are, including myself. But I am not going to insist people follow or believe me..
Please do enlighten me on how else the CMB could have been produced and what this other mechanism is for the creation of the universe. Because I believe you are shooting from the hip here. And I'm not asking for an understanding of everything about paired particle production.
That's nice.
Dark Matter Alternative Passes Big Test
A cosmological model that doesn’t require dark matter has overcome a major hurdle in matching observations from the cosmic microwave background.
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Conformal cyclic cosmology - Wikipedia
Emergent universe revisited through the CSL theory - The European Physical Journal C
In this work we analyze how the spectrum of primordial scalar perturbations is modified, within the emergent universe scenario, when a particular version of the Continuous Spontaneous Localization (CSL) model is incorporated as the generating mechanism of initial perturbations, providing also an...
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Knock yourself out. And even if all this wouldn't exist. The correct answer is still I don't know. And claiming you could draw a conclusion folly.
And I still want to know if a sample size of one in your opinion constitutes a statically valid sample size mister engineer?
It's not a single data point. There are billions of humans.
Why do you ignore artificial intelligence as proof that humans are obsessed with creating smart things.
DON'T DODGE. ANSWER.
That's not going to cut it. Explain it to me in your own words.Dark Matter Alternative Passes Big Test
A cosmological model that doesn’t require dark matter has overcome a major hurdle in matching observations from the cosmic microwave background.Conformal cyclic cosmology - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Emergent universe revisited through the CSL theory - The European Physical Journal C
In this work we analyze how the spectrum of primordial scalar perturbations is modified, within the emergent universe scenario, when a particular version of the Continuous Spontaneous Localization (CSL) model is incorporated as the generating mechanism of initial perturbations, providing also an...Researchers find substantial observational evidence for a holographic Universe
Does everything we feel and hear in three dimension in fact emanate from a flat two-dimensional field? New compelling evidence suggests this might be the case
Knock yourself out. And even if all this wouldn't exist. The correct answer is still I don't know. And claiming you could draw a conclusion folly.
And I still want to know if a sample size of one in your opinion constitutes a statically valid sample size mister engineer?
DON'T DODGE. ANSWER.
One human race. Among thousands upon thousands of intelligent beings. And ai only being a thing an infinitesimally small part of total human existence and invented by an equally infinitesimally small part of the population. And from this you draw conclusions about intelligence. And disregard the millions of intelligent beings and the billions upon billions of humans that never created intelligence.
Dark matter itself does not directly create the Cosmic Microwave Background (CMB), but it does play a crucial role in shaping its characteristics. The CMB is the afterglow of the Big Bang, representing the oldest light in the universe, and its fluctuations provide valuable information about the early universe's conditions. Dark matter's gravitational influence on the distribution of ordinary matter and photons in the early universe significantly affects the CMB's structure.Dark Matter Alternative Passes Big Test
A cosmological model that doesn’t require dark matter has overcome a major hurdle in matching observations from the cosmic microwave background.Conformal cyclic cosmology - Wikipedia
Emergent universe revisited through the CSL theory - The European Physical Journal C
In this work we analyze how the spectrum of primordial scalar perturbations is modified, within the emergent universe scenario, when a particular version of the Continuous Spontaneous Localization (CSL) model is incorporated as the generating mechanism of initial perturbations, providing also an...Researchers find substantial observational evidence for a holographic Universe
Does everything we feel and hear in three dimension in fact emanate from a flat two-dimensional field? New compelling evidence suggests this might be the case
Knock yourself out. And even if all this wouldn't exist. The correct answer is still I don't know. And claiming you could draw a conclusion folly.
And I still want to know if a sample size of one in your opinion constitutes a statically valid sample size mister engineer?
So how does dark matter create the CMB?
Tons of examples does not equal one data point. I can only assume you believe that your atheistic worldview is threatened by the nature of intelligence is to create intelligence. It should have been threatened by the universe popping into existence being created from nothing.
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You don't either.
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