Our elite forces killed "by" the Taliban

[Wicked Jester]

Wow, lot of misinformation and innuendo on this thread. Obviously not intended by most posters BTW.

What really happened is a RANGER unit was in a firefight with A large force of Taliban. Many of the Taliban upped and fled trying to escape when they realized they were having their asses handed to them. The RANGERS called in for back up to cut off and kill those who were trying to escape. The SEAL unit was the closest special op's force in the area and were dispatched, along with a couple o' Air Force special op's personnel.......Obviously, a ragheaded goatherder got off a lucky shot.

May they all RIP!

 

[Wicked Jester]

One thing that is really disturbing though, is the fact that they are publically identifying these SEAL members. Not the military, but the families and media.......That may not be a good thing, seeing as though these were members of SEAL 6, and can lead to the identities of those other members involved in the Bin Laden raid, which would put those family members of those involved in the raid in danger from Al Qaeda. Apparently the Pentagon is not happy, and is considering not verifying officially those members killed.

 

[American Horse]

Wow, lot of misinformation and innuendo on this thread. Obviously not intended by most posters BTW.

What really happened is a RANGER unit was in a firefight with A large force of Taliban. Many of the Taliban upped and fled trying to escape when they realized they were having their asses handed to them. The RANGERS called in for back up to cut off and kill those who were trying to escape. The SEAL unit was the closest special op's force in the area and were dispatched, along with a couple o' Air Force special op's personnel.......Obviously, a ragheaded goatherder got off a lucky shot.

May they all RIP!

Tuesday Aug 9 WSJ Max Boot: " [A] US contingent was caught in a firefight - this time in the treacherous Tangi Valley - and another quick reaction force of SEALS was sent out in a Chinook helicopter. The Taliban, obviously knowing the SEALS were on the way, used another rocket-propelled grenade to bring down the giant helicopter. This time the loss of life included 30 Americans most of them members of the ultra elite Seal Team Six, along with eight Afghan counterparts. "

 

[High_Gravity]

Afghanistan Helicopter Attackers Killed: NATO

WASHINGTON -- The top commander in Afghanistan says international forces killed the Taliban insurgents responsible for downing a U.S. helicopter and killing 38 U.S. and Afghan forces over the weekend.

Marine Corps Gen. John Allen told a Pentagon news conference Wednesday that forces learned where the insurgents had fled to and killed them in an early Monday morning air strike.

A separate statement to the media from Afghanistan said the strike killed Taliban leader Mullah Mohibullah and the insurgent who fired the rocket-propelled grenade that downed the Chinook helicopter.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

Military investigators are trying to determine what went wrong in the downing of a U.S. helicopter in Afghanistan last week that killed 30 American troops and eight Afghans.

Questions remain about why the troops were called in to aid other U.S. combatants engaged in a firefight, what they knew about the situation on the ground and what role the flight path or altitude may have played in the disastrous crash.

Pentagon officials would not discuss the details of the probe, but it no doubt will include a look at the insurgent threat and the instructions given to the special operations team that crowded into a big Chinook helicopter as it raced to assist other U.S. forces.

According to officials, the team, which included 22 Navy SEAL personnel, three Air Force airmen, a five-member Army air crew and a military dog, was flying in to help U.S. Army Rangers who were going after insurgents on the ground. Seven Afghan commandos and an Afghan interpreter were also on board.

The helicopter apparently was shot down by an insurgent armed with a rocket-propelled grenade. It was the single deadliest loss in the decade-long war.

Gen. James Mattis, head of U.S. Central Command, has appointed Army Brig. Gen. Jeffrey Colt to lead the investigation. Colt is deputy commander of the 101st Airborne Division at Fort Campbell, Ky.

The investigation comes as the remains of the troops killed in the crash were returned Tuesday in an operation shrouded in secrecy by a Defense Department that has refused so far to release the names of the fallen and denied media coverage of the arrival at Dover Air Force Base in Delaware.

Two C-17 aircraft carrying the remains were met by President Barack Obama, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, the Joint Chiefs chairman, Adm. Mike Mullen, and a number of other military leaders.

Afghanistan Helicopter Attackers Killed: NATO

 

[SFC Ollie]

 

[whitehall]

Didn't the US Military learn anything from VietNam? Navy SEALs are elite covert operatives. What were they doing crammed into an unescorted helicopter in broad daylight in the mountains of Afghanistan? This is no way to fight a war. They can't call in a air strike or an artillery barrage because civilians might get in the way so they wait until 32 Americans are killed and then they call in an air strike and call it a success because they killed the people that they should have killed last week.

 

[High_Gravity]

Didn't the US Military learn anything from VietNam? Navy SEALs are elite covert operatives. What were they doing crammed into an unescorted helicopter in broad daylight in the mountains of Afghanistan? This is no way to fight a war. They can't call in a air strike or an artillery barrage because civilians might get in the way so they wait until 32 Americans are killed and then they call in an air strike and call it a success because they killed the people that they should have killed last week.

Yeah its all so easy, we should send you over there to show them how its done.

 

[presence06]

Erm. Not sure if anyone else heard this or posted it. But according to Political the "Taliban" that killed the Seals have been taken out by F-16's

can't post link but it's on Political's site.

Still sounds fishy..

 

[Wicked Jester]

Didn't the US Military learn anything from VietNam? Navy SEALs are elite covert operatives. What were they doing crammed into an unescorted helicopter in broad daylight in the mountains of Afghanistan? This is no way to fight a war. They can't call in a air strike or an artillery barrage because civilians might get in the way so they wait until 32 Americans are killed and then they call in an air strike and call it a success because they killed the people that they should have killed last week.

Sadly, shit happens in war......It's not all cut, dry and pretty the way we would all love it to be.

And, not one person has called it a success because they killed the Mullah who fired the rocket.....Unless you can come up with an exact quote, it's all BS on your part.

Now, we fully expect to see you now strap up and go run the war, seeing as though you're the expert already on the matter.

 

[whitehall]

Didn't the US Military learn anything from VietNam? Navy SEALs are elite covert operatives. What were they doing crammed into an unescorted helicopter in broad daylight in the mountains of Afghanistan? This is no way to fight a war. They can't call in a air strike or an artillery barrage because civilians might get in the way so they wait until 32 Americans are killed and then they call in an air strike and call it a success because they killed the people that they should have killed last week.

Yeah its all so easy, we should send you over there to show them how its done.

I expect a better response than a schoolyard insult even from someone who suffers from high gravity. While the kiddies were figuring out what to say I realized that I stand corrected on one point. It was a night operation. Hell of a shot on a moving helicopter at night with an RPG. I suspect a SAM.

 

[High_Gravity]

Didn't the US Military learn anything from VietNam? Navy SEALs are elite covert operatives. What were they doing crammed into an unescorted helicopter in broad daylight in the mountains of Afghanistan? This is no way to fight a war. They can't call in a air strike or an artillery barrage because civilians might get in the way so they wait until 32 Americans are killed and then they call in an air strike and call it a success because they killed the people that they should have killed last week.

Yeah its all so easy, we should send you over there to show them how its done.

I expect a better response than a schoolyard insult even from someone who suffers from high gravity. While the kiddies were figuring out what to say I realized that I stand corrected on one point. It was a night operation. Hell of a shot on a moving helicopter at night with an RPG. I suspect a SAM.

How did I insult you? you seem to know so much about whats going on and what we need to do to route the Taliban, you need to suit up and head over there and show those fools how its done.

 

[Wicked Jester]

Didn't the US Military learn anything from VietNam? Navy SEALs are elite covert operatives. What were they doing crammed into an unescorted helicopter in broad daylight in the mountains of Afghanistan? This is no way to fight a war. They can't call in a air strike or an artillery barrage because civilians might get in the way so they wait until 32 Americans are killed and then they call in an air strike and call it a success because they killed the people that they should have killed last week.

Yeah its all so easy, we should send you over there to show them how its done.

I expect a better response than a schoolyard insult even from someone who suffers from high gravity. While the kiddies were figuring out what to say I realized that I stand corrected on one point. It was a night operation. Hell of a shot on a moving helicopter at night with an RPG. I suspect a SAM.

A) You didn't even know at what point the mission occured as far as day or night.

b) You've never operated in that region.

C) You weren't there.

D) You've never run a special op's mission.

E) You have no clue as to the status of the helicopter.

F) You have no clue as to whether the chopper was in flight, hovering, landing, or on the ground.

G) You have no clue as to the distance between the helicopter and the person doing the firing of the RPG.

H) You need to stand corrected on all your points.

 

[SFC Ollie]

An American airstrike has killed the Taliban insurgents who shot down the helicopter that crashed Saturday in the deadliest single incident of the Afghan war, the top U.S. commander there said Wednesday.

Marine Gen. John Allen, briefing reporters at the Pentagon via satellite video link, said special operators had been able to trace the band of fighters who fired the rocket-propelled grenade at the CH-47 Chinook, and an Air Force F-16 killed them by putting "ordnance on target" at around midnight on Monday.

US Says Helo Shooters Killed in Airstrike

And as a Tribute to these troops:

Portraits of Troops Killed in Chinook Crash

 

[bitterlyclingin]

Special operations forces kill Taliban leader, shooter behind downing of Chinook

By Bill RoggioAugust 10, 2011


Earlier today, US special operations forces hunted down and killed the Taliban commander and the shooter who were responsible for last weekend's downing of a helicopter in eastern Afghanistan that resulted in the deaths of 30 US soldiers, including SEALs, seven Afghan commandos, and an interpreter.

The Taliban commander, who was identified as Mullah Mohibullah, an "insurgent who fired the shot associated with the Aug. 6 downing of the CH-47 helicopter," was killed along with several other fighters today in an airstrike in the Chak district in Wardak province, the International Security Assistance Force announced in a press release.

The hunter-killer team tracking Mohibullah had received "multiple intelligence leads and tips from local citizens" on his location, and found the Taliban unit in a wooded area of Chak after "an exhaustive manhunt." The special operations team then called in an airstrike to kill the Taliban fighters. ISAF said Mohibullah and his fighters "were attempting to flee the country," presumably to Pakistan, "in order to avoid capture."


Read more: Special operations forces kill Taliban leader, shooter behind downing of Chinook - The Long War Journal

 

[geauxtohell]

Yeah its all so easy, we should send you over there to show them how its done.

I expect a better response than a schoolyard insult even from someone who suffers from high gravity. While the kiddies were figuring out what to say I realized that I stand corrected on one point. It was a night operation. Hell of a shot on a moving helicopter at night with an RPG. I suspect a SAM.

A) You didn't even know at what point the mission occured as far as day or night.

b) You've never operated in that region.

C) You weren't there.

D) You've never run a special op's mission.

E) You have no clue as to the status of the helicopter.

F) You have no clue as to weather the chopper was in flight, hovering, landing, or on the ground.

G) You have no clue as to the distance between the helicopter and the person doing the firing of the RPG.

H) You need to stand corrected on all your points.

This is all so much easier on the playstation.

 

[whitehall]

Here's the deal. The people we trust to run the war decided to insert SEALs to do something ralated to Taliban leaders. When the SEALs were blown out of the sky the same people we trust decided to do what they should have done in the first place and nape the stronghold with an air strike. Obama gives a community activist salute and goes back on his bus tour and Military leaders continue to prolong the war.

 

[uscitizen]

Such a bad thing for Reagans freedom fighters to do!

 

[SFC Ollie]

Here's the deal. The people we trust to run the war decided to insert SEALs to do something ralated to Taliban leaders. When the SEALs were blown out of the sky the same people we trust decided to do what they should have done in the first place and nape the stronghold with an air strike. Obama gives a community activist salute and goes back on his bus tour and Military leaders continue to prolong the war.

You really haven't a clue do you?

 

[whitehall]

Such a bad thing for Reagans freedom fighters to do!

Here's the deal. America has the greatest technological war machine that the world could ever imagine but Americans are forced to fight on the ground in Afghanistan with terms dictated by the enemy because of some crazy fairness doctrine that liberals subscribe to. We had SEALs blown out of the sky and a couple of days later we killed the bad guys with an air strike. Here's the question: could we kill the bad guys with air strikes and save the ground Troops the trouble?

 

[uscitizen]

Such a bad thing for Reagans freedom fighters to do!

Here's the deal. America has the greatest technological war machine that the world could ever imagine but Americans are forced to fight on the ground in Afghanistan with terms dictated by the enemy because of some crazy fairness doctrine that liberals subscribe to. We had SEALs blown out of the sky and a couple of days later we killed the bad guys with an air strike. Here's the question: could we kill the bad guys with air strikes and save the ground Troops the trouble?

Just nuke em all and let god sort em out?