Orphanages Are Safer Than Adoption Into Same-sex "families".

[boilermaker55]

Facts back up what you are trying to prove, not opinion.
But that might be some obstacle that is difficult to overcome.

Can you provide the data to back up your opinion.
Remember, you are entitled to your opinion but not your own facts.

Opinion!

There's only one reason a pair of sodomites want to get there hands on a little boy.

Opinion yes but the sad fact it had happened already, opinion and coincidentally fact in some instances.

People can read the article and de ide, my opinion is irrelevant to the facts.

 

[bodecea]

There's only one reason a pair of sodomites want to get there hands on a little boy.

So, you don't think men make valid parents? Are you pointing the same finger at all fathers?

 

[bodecea]

the op and his boyfriend are piling it high and deep....most child molesters are "straight" white men

It's always a hoot when a liberal uses being gay as an insult .

Interesting that you say that......while quoting a post stating that STRAIGHT white men are more of a problem.

 

[R.D.]

the op and his boyfriend are piling it high and deep....most child molesters are "straight" white men

It's always a hoot when a liberal uses being gay as an insult .

Interesting that you say that......while quoting a post stating that STRAIGHT white men are more of a problem.

You saw what I quoted.

 

[boilermaker55]

Abuse in family's comes in many varieties, shapes and in religions.

the op and his boyfriend are piling it high and deep....most child molesters are "straight" white men

It's always a hoot when a liberal uses being gay as an insult .

Interesting that you say that......while quoting a post stating that STRAIGHT white men are more of a problem.

 

[Tom Sweetnam]

Fuck all these queer "studies" and "data". They're degenerates. They lie, and deny, and lie, and deny, and lie, and deny. That's the only data set anyone needs to understand.

The Catholic Church had to admit that the hard way, didn't they? More than 6000 lawsuits and/or charges by former alter boys or other male children who were raped by degenerate queer priests in North America over three decades. Queer priests raping kids was such a prevalent activity that the church nearly went broke with the lawsuits.

They had to divest themselves of hundreds of millions of dollars worth of valuable property in nearly every city in Canada and the US. Homosexual pedophile priests nearly ruined the Catholic Church in North America. They set it back at least half a century to be sure.

The Vatican finally kicked all the queers out of the priesthood and put up a sign up on the seminaries: No Queers Allowed! The degenerates could hardly argue with the mountain of evidence that backed up that edict, could they? It stands to this day.

And now the left in this country is tripping over itself to put toddlers back in the hands of these ghouls. This is a sick society we live in. I'm not sure it's worth saving.

 

[elektra]

Facts back up what you are trying to prove, not opinion.
But that might be some obstacle that is difficult to overcome.

Can you provide the data to back up your opinion.
Remember, you are entitled to your opinion but not your own facts.

Opinion!

There's only one reason a pair of sodomites want to get there hands on a little boy.

Opinion yes but the sad fact it had happened already, opinion and coincidentally fact in some instances.

People can read the article and de ide, my opinion is irrelevant to the facts.

Sorry, I see the testimony from the article as valid. Thus man was an orphaned who is validating the safety of the orphanage he spent ten years in.

This man lived in an orphanage, his statement is fact.

 

[elektra]

the op and his boyfriend are piling it high and deep....most child molesters are "straight" white men

It's always a hoot when a liberal uses being gay as an insult .

the op and his boyfriend are piling it high and deep....most child molesters are "straight" white men

In summary, each of these studies failed to support the hypothesis that homosexual males are more likely than heterosexual men to molest children or to be sexually attracted to children or adolescents.

The Mainstream View

Reflecting the results of these and other studies, as well as clinical experience, the mainstream view among researchers and professionals who work in the area of child sexual abuse is that homosexual and bisexual men do not pose any special threat to children. For example, in one review of the scientific literature, noted authority Dr. A. Nicholas Groth wrote: Are homosexual adults in general sexually attracted to children and are preadolescent children at greater risk of molestation from homosexual adults than from heterosexual adults? There is no reason to believe so. The research to date all points to there being no significant relationship between a homosexual lifestyle and child molestation. There appears to be practically no reportage of sexual molestation of girls by lesbian adults, and the adult male who sexually molests young boys is not likely to be homosexual(Groth & Gary, 1982, p. 147). In a later literature review, Dr. Nathaniel McConaghy (1998) similarly cautioned against confusing homosexuality with pedophilia. He noted, "The man who offends against prepubertal or immediately postpubertal boys is typically not sexually interested in older men or in women" (p. 259). This well known lack of a linkage between homosexuality and child molestation accounts for why relatively little research has directly addressed the issue. For example, a 1998 comprehensive review of published empirical research on the sexual abuse of boys reported only one study (the 1994 study by Jenny and colleagues, cited above) that included data about the self-reported sexual orientation of perpetrators (Holmes & Slap, 1998). Proving something that is already widely known simply isn't a priority for scientists. Indeed, a commentary that accompanied publication of the study by Jenny et al. in Pediatrics noted that debates about gay people as molesters "have little to do with everyday child abuse" and lamented that they distract lawmakers and the public from dealing with the real problem of children's sexual mistreatment (Krugman, 1994). http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/facul...ts_molestation.html[/TD][/TR][/TBODY][/TABLE]

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Is there a link to this quote?

 

[Ravi]

Can you provide the data to back up your opinion.
Remember, you are entitled to your opinion but not your own facts.

Opinion!

There's only one reason a pair of sodomites want to get there hands on a little boy.

Opinion yes but the sad fact it had happened already, opinion and coincidentally fact in some instances.

The article is simply the testimony of a voice.

A voice that has nothing to say about adoption or gay people. Are you this stupid in real life?

 

[boilermaker55]

One instance, that is what you base your theory.
NIce try

Facts back up what you are trying to prove, not opinion.
But that might be some obstacle that is difficult to overcome.

Can you provide the data to back up your opinion.
Remember, you are entitled to your opinion but not your own facts.

Opinion!

Opinion yes but the sad fact it had happened already, opinion and coincidentally fact in some instances.

People can read the article and de ide, my opinion is irrelevant to the facts.

Sorry, I see the testimony from the article as valid. Thus man was an orphaned who is validating the safety of the orphanage he spent ten years in.

This man lived in an orphanage, his statement is fact.

 

[boilermaker55]

Was that to me?

Can you provide the data to back up your opinion.
Remember, you are entitled to your opinion but not your own facts.

Opinion!

There's only one reason a pair of sodomites want to get there hands on a little boy.

Opinion yes but the sad fact it had happened already, opinion and coincidentally fact in some instances.

The article is simply the testimony of a voice.

A voice that has nothing to say about adoption or gay people. Are you this stupid in real life?

 

[daws101]

the op and his boyfriend are piling it high and deep....most child molesters are "straight" white men

It's always a hoot when a liberal uses being gay as an insult .

no insult, statement of fact when you repubs team up it's a bromance in bloom

 

[daws101]

the op and his boyfriend are piling it high and deep....most child molesters are "straight" white men

It's always a hoot when a liberal uses being gay as an insult .

Interesting that you say that......while quoting a post stating that STRAIGHT white men are more of a problem.

You saw what I quoted.

and it was false. the worst insult conservative men can think of is calling someone gay.

 

[elektra]

One instance, that is what you base your theory.
NIce try

Facts back up what you are trying to prove, not opinion.
But that might be some obstacle that is difficult to overcome.

Can you provide the data to back up your opinion.
Remember, you are entitled to your opinion but not your own facts.

Opinion yes but the sad fact it had happened already, opinion and coincidentally fact in some instances.

People can read the article and de ide, my opinion is irrelevant to the facts.

Sorry, I see the testimony from the article as valid. Thus man was an orphaned who is validating the safety of the orphanage he spent ten years in.

This man lived in an orphanage, his statement is fact.

It's not my theory, nice try, it's just one man's eyewitness testimony.

 

[daws101]

One instance, that is what you base your theory.
NIce try

Facts back up what you are trying to prove, not opinion.
But that might be some obstacle that is difficult to overcome.

Can you provide the data to back up your opinion.
Remember, you are entitled to your opinion but not your own facts.

People can read the article and de ide, my opinion is irrelevant to the facts.

Sorry, I see the testimony from the article as valid. Thus man was an orphaned who is validating the safety of the orphanage he spent ten years in.

This man lived in an orphanage, his statement is fact.

It's not my theory, nice try, it's just one man's eyewitness testimony.

OR is it?

 

[elektra]

One instance, that is what you base your theory.
NIce try

Facts back up what you are trying to prove, not opinion.
But that might be some obstacle that is difficult to overcome.

People can read the article and de ide, my opinion is irrelevant to the facts.

Sorry, I see the testimony from the article as valid. Thus man was an orphaned who is validating the safety of the orphanage he spent ten years in.

This man lived in an orphanage, his statement is fact.

It's not my theory, nice try, it's just one man's eyewitness testimony.

OR is it?

Good question, I am sure their are more witnesses out there. Impossible for there not to be.

 

[konradv]

There's only one reason a pair of sodomites want to get there hands on a little boy.

And you know this how?

 

[Tom Sweetnam]

There's only one reason a pair of sodomites want to get there hands on a little boy.

And you know this how?

I'm from San Francisco, idiot. All you have to do there is go through life with your eyes and ears open. But since you raise the question, let me ask, how do you know otherwise? Some bullshit "study" on how beneficial it is for a pair of creeps to molest a little boy...like half a dozen such "studies" vomited up by academia and cited on Fox News?

An empirical effort like the "gay gene" study, perhaps? Or maybe a study like the American Psychological Association's edict than homosexual pedophilia is a "sexual orientation"? I like the Islamic method of study regarding homosexuality. Their study's results are always sooo...immutable.

 

[bodecea]

There's only one reason a pair of sodomites want to get there hands on a little boy.

And you know this how?

I'm from San Francisco, idiot. All you have to do there is go through life with your eyes and ears open. But since you raise the question, let me ask, how do you know otherwise? Some bullshit "study" on how beneficial it is for a pair of creeps to molest a little boy...like half a dozen such "studies" vomited up by academia and cited on Fox News over the past half dozen years?

An empirical effort like the "gay gene" study, perhaps? Or maybe a study like the American Psychological Association's edict than homosexual pedophilia is a "sexual orientation"? I like the Islamic method of study regarding homosexuality. Their study's results are always sooo...immutable.

Straight married men molest more children...usually their own or their friends' own.

 

[bripat9643]

It is estimated there are between 143 million and 210 million orphans worldwide (recent UNICEF report.) The UNICEF orphan numbers DON’T include abandonment (millions of children) as well as sold and/or trafficked children. The current population of the United States is just a little over 300 million… to give you an idea of the enormity of the numbers…
According to data released in 2003 as many as eight million boys and girls around the world live in institutional care. Some studies have found that violence in residential institutions is six times higher than violence in foster care, and that children in group care are almost four times more likely to experience sexual abuse than children in family based care.
Every day 5,760 more children become orphans
Approximately 250,000 children are adopted annually, but…
Each year 14, 505, 000 children grow up as orphans and age out of the system by age sixteen
Each day 38,493 orphans age out
Every 2.2 seconds another orphan ages out with no family to belong to and no place to call home
Studies have shown that 10% – 15% of these children commit suicide before they reach age eighteen
These studies also show that 60% of the girls become prostitutes and 70% of the boys become hardened criminals
Another study reported that of the 15,000 orphans aging out of state-run institutions every year, 10% committed suicide, 5,000 were unemployed, 6,000 were homeless and 3,000 were in prison within three years…
An estimated 1.2 million children are trafficked every year; (THE STATE OF THE WORLD’S CHILDREN 2005)
2 million children, the majority of them girls, are sexually exploited in the multibillion-dollar commercial sex industry. (THE STATE OF THE WORLD’S CHILDREN 2005)

Facts Statistics

Oct. 13, 2005 (Washington) — An analysis of multiple studies of 500 households shows that rearing children in a same-sex household does not affect the their self-esteem, gender identity, or emotional health, a Boston researcher reported.

"Pediatricians need to recognize that there are variations in families and learn what kind of advice to give them to optimize the child's development," said Ellen Perrin, MD, professor of pediatrics at Tufts-New England Medical Center in Boston, Massachusetts.

The researcher and colleagues looked at data from 15 studies evaluating possible stigma, teasing, social isolation, adjustment, sexual orientation, and strengths. The findings were presented here at the American Academy of Pediatrics National Conference and Exhibition.

"The vast consensus of the studies is that children of same-sex parents do as well as children whose parents are heterosexual in every way," Dr. Perrin said. "In some ways, children of same-sex parents actually may have advantages over other family structures."

It has been estimated that one to six million children are being reared by committed lesbian or gay couples in this country. Some children were born to a heterosexual couple and later raised by a same-sex couple; others were placed in foster homes, were adopted, or conceived through a surrogate mother through artificial insemination.

Previous studies of same-sex parenting have been criticized for being biased, but Dr. Perrin said the research team was extremely careful to select only solid, evidence-based research for review.

Based on nine studies from 1981 to 1994 of 260 children, aged three to 11 years, reared by either heterosexual mothers or same sex-mothers after divorce, the researchers found there was no difference in intelligence of the children, type or prevalence of psychiatric disorders, self-esteem, well-being, peer relationships, or parental stress. "The children all had a similar emotional experiences with divorce," she said.

What they did find was that after divorce children being reared by lesbian mothers had more contact with fathers than children reared by divorced heterosexual mothers, Dr. Perrin said. "There are interesting suggestions that these children are more tolerant of differences."

A separate longitudinal study of 37 children of 27 divorced lesbian mothers and an equal number of children with divorced heterosexual mothers found no differences in behavior, adjustment, gender identity, and peer relationships.

"What is exciting about this study was that they followed the children 11 years later when they became adults," Dr. Perrin said. "But they still found no difference in adjustment, self-esteem, psychiatric or psychological problems, family relationships, or in identifying sexual orientation."

Four other large studies of more than 100 couples that evaluated children either born or adopted into families found that same-sex parents were more likely to have contact with extended family for social support as well as a more equal division of labor in the home. However, children of same-sex parents did experience some stigmatization.

"The researchers found no differences in the parents other than that lesbian couples share household and child care tasks more equitably," said Dr. Perrin. "The children of lesbian couples also appeared to be less aggressive, more nurturing to peers, more tolerant of diversity, and more androgynous," playing with toys for both boys and girls.

A further analysis of the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health used randomly selected representative data from 44 adolescents aged 12 to 18 years. The study compared children living with two women in a "marriage-like" relationship to teenagers living with two heterosexual parents.

The study showed that the adolescents were similar in intrapersonal adjustments such as self-esteem, depression, and anxiety. They also were similar in school success, family relationships, and neighborhood integration, Dr. Perrin said.

"What is striking is that there are very consistent findings in these studies," she concluded. "But further study conducted in a long-term systematic manner in community samples needs to be conducted."

Dr. Perrin pointed out that "as pediatricians we have a lot of different kinds of roles. We need to be extremely careful about confidentiality with these families and assure them that their family constellation won't be broadcast. This will give us a better chance of learning more about the family and providing needed advice and discussing some of the issues."

"This is valuable information," Carol Berkowitz, MD, told Medscape. She is the immediate past president of the AAP and professor and executive vice chair in the Department of Pediatrics at Harbor-UCLA Medical Center in Torrance, California. "This subject evokes a lot of emotions that have influenced some studies. Some studies in the past were weighted based on nothing more than their own views."

The value of this presentation is these are all evidence-based studies, Dr. Berkowitz said, adding this information will help pediatricians in their practices and for setting policy.

AAP 2005 National Conference and Exhibition: Concurrent Seminar F340. Presented Oct. 10, 2005.

15 Studies: Children of Same-Sex Couples Do as Well as Other Children

It has already been shown in other thread that those studies are bullshit