Orlando Shooting Eye Witness

[Sunni Man]

Eye witness interviewed by media says he saw 4" bullet from AR-15 sticking out of victims leg. ........

 

[WinterBorn]

A 4 inch bullet? Intact and recognizable as a bullet? Not buying that. But glad he survived.

 

[defcon4]

First eye witness interviewed by media says he saw 4" bullet from AR-15 sticking out of victims leg. ........

Let's recap. The "bullet was sticking out that big" and he indicated around a 100 millimeter length. The 5.56 NATO cartridge overall length (including the case and projectile) is 57.4 millimeter. That was the caliber of the AR-15 the terrorist used.
The handgun the terrorist had was a semiauto pistol with a lesser overall length of cartridge. What he fuck this guy was talking about?

 

[Sunni Man]

Maybe the alleged gunman was just stabbing the gays with unfired bullets instead of shooting them? ........

 

[waltky]

FBI really dropped the ball on this one...

FBI Investigated Orlando Terrorist for 10 Months After He Said in 2013 He Hoped to Martyr Himself
June 13, 2016 | FBI Director James Comey said at a press conference Monday that his agency conducted a 10-month investigation in May 2013 of the Orlando shooter, Omar Mateen, during which time he blamed his statements of aspirational martyrdom on coworkers he felt were teasing him.

“We first became aware of him in May of 2013. He was working as a contract security guard at a local courthouse, and he made some statements that were inflammatory and contradictory that concerned his co-workers about terrorism,” Comey said. “First he claimed family connections to al Qaeda. He also said he was a member of Hizbollah, which is a Shia terrorist organization that is a bitter enemy of the so-called Islamic State – ISIL. He said he hoped that law enforcement would raid his apartment and assault his wife and child so that he could martyr himself,” Comey added.

“When this was reported to us, the FBI’s Miami office opened a preliminary investigation, and over the next 10 months, we attempted to determine whether he was possibly a terrorist – something we do in hundreds and hundreds of cases all across the country,” Comey said. “Our investigation involved introducing confidential sources to him, recording conversations with him, following him, reviewing transactional records from his communications and searching all government holdings for any possible connections, any possible derogatory information. We then interviewed him twice,” Comey added.

Comey said during the FBI’s interview, Mateen admitted to making the statements his coworkers reported, but said “he did it in anger, because he thought his coworkers were discriminating against him and teasing him because he was Muslim.” “After 10 months of investigation, we closed the preliminary investigation,” Comey said. “Two months later, in July of 2014, the killer’s name surfaced again in an indirect way.”

The FBI’s Miami office was investigating a Florida man – a suicide bomber who had “blown himself up for the Nusra Front in Syria – again the Nusra Front being an al Qaeda group in conflict with ISIL,” Comey said. “We learned from the investigation that the killer knew him casually from attending the same mosque in that area of Florida, but our investigation turned up no ties of any consequence between the two of them,” Comey added. “In the course of that investigation, one witness told us when asked do you know anybody else who might be radicalizing, that he had once been concerned about the killer, because the killer had mentioned Awlaki videos, but the witness had concluded that he later got married and had a child and got a job as a security guard, and so he was no longer concerned about him,” Comey said. “Our investigation again turned and interviewed the killer to find out whether he had any significant contacts with the suicide bomber for Al Nusra, determined that he did not, and the inquiry continued, focusing on the suicide bomber, with no further focus on the Orlando killer,” the FBI director said.

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More Than 570 Charged, Convicted or Connected to Terror Since 9/11; Almost All Muslims
June 13, 2016 – Sen. Jeff Sessions warned Sunday that more attacks like the one on an Orlando nightclub were likely, and disclosed that more than 570 people have been “convicted or charged or connected to terrorism” since 9/11.

The Alabama Republican, who chairs the Senate Judiciary subcommittee on immigration and the national interest, told Fox News Sunday that data it had obtained so far indicated that “about two-thirds of those people that were charged were foreign born, almost all Islamic individuals.” “We see apparently today more of these attacks are coming,” Sessions said in reference to the killing early Sunday of 50 people at the Pulse nightclub. In a 911 call shortly beforehand the Muslim shooter pledged his allegiance to the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS/ISIL). Omar Mateen was reported to be a New York-born U.S. citizen, the son of Afghan parents. “It’s a real part of the threat that we face,” Sessions continued, “and if we can’t address it openly and directly and say directly that there is an extremist element within Islam that’s dangerous to the world and has to be confronted. We need to slow down and be careful about those we admit into the country.”

Sessions, a key supporter of and advisor to Donald Trump’s presidential campaign, stressed that most Muslim citizens and visitors to the United States were “not violent.” “But there clearly is a problem here.” ISIS recently called on supporters to carry out terrorist attacks in Western countries during Ramadan. The Islamic fast month, which this year began on June 7, has a history of inspiring jihadists. Sessions and Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) – who chairs another Judiciary subcommittee – have been seeking immigration status and family immigration status data from the federal government as they compile information on individuals charged or convicted of terror-related offenses.

In a letter last August, Sessions and Cruz asked Attorney-General Loretta Lynch, Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson and Secretary of State John Kerry to provide such information for 72 people identified as having connections to terrorism over a one-year period. They wrote again in December, after the Sen Bernardino attack – perpetrated by the ISIS-inspired U.S.-born son of Pakistani migrants and his Pakistani-born wife – and then again last January, this time adding a request for information relating to an additional 41 individuals, bringing the total to 113.

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Ex-CIA Director Hayden Names 3 'Folks on the Radar' Who Went On to Kill
June 13, 2016 | "We've got three examples now of folks on the radar -- Major Nidal Hasan, Tamerlan Tsarnaev and now Omar Mateen, who were on our radar, who were looked at, are then dismissed," Former CIA Director Michael Hayden told MSNBC's "Morning Joe" on Monday.

Hasan killed 13 people and injured more than 30 others at Fort Hood on November 5, 2009; Tsarnaev, along with his brother, killed 3 and injured 264 others at the Boston Marathon on April 15, 2013; and Mateen, the New-York-born son of Afghan immigrants, opened fire at Pulse, a gay nightclub in Orlando, Fla., early Sunday morning, where 49 people died. Police then killed Mateen as he exited the club. Mateen was investigated by the FBI in 2013 and 2014 following tips from people who knew him, but apparently he was not considered a credible threat.

Hayden on Monday said he intends no criticism of the FBI: "It's quite possible that when they looked into these individuals, they weren't in the place where they finally ended up in," Hayden said. "We're getting pretty close to the limits as to what the state can do without changing our nature as a society," he added. Hayden said Facebook and Twitter are getting better at taking down sites that urge jihad. "Where do you draw the line between independent thought and something the state has a right to forbid?" he asked.

Washington Post reporter David Ignatius asked Hayden if remarks by public officials about excluding Muslims, keeping them out of the U.S., and "other talk that makes Muslims feel that they are separate and unequal could makes this problem of home-grown terrorism even worse?" "David, of course it does," Hayden replied, criticizing Donald Trump by name. "To the degree we drive these individuals into further isolation, to that degree we increase the threat."

New York Times columnist Frank Bruni, joining the "Morning Joe" conversation, argued Hayden's point that we're getting close to the limits on what the state can do. "Why would we allow anyone to purchase an assault rifle?" Bruni asked. "We are not at the limits of what we can do, because we have not done all we can do to keep those dangerous weapons out of people's hands."

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