Opinions on american civic nationalism?

[Mortimer]

I noticed a type of american nationalism which is different then white nationalism. It says "colourblind only red white and blue". And they also include immigrants and POC folks into the "all things american"

But they are still mostly white though. Maybe it is just a farce that they are colourblind.

 

[impuretrash]

Is it a coincidence that "poc" happen to not often be patriotic and conservative? I don't think so.

 

[JoeMoma]

It's obvious that Mortimer isn't colorblind.

 

[toobfreak]

I noticed a type of american nationalism which is different then white nationalism. It says "colourblind only red white and blue". And they also include immigrants and POC folks into the "all things american"

But they are still mostly white though. Maybe it is just a farce that they are colourblind.

Morty, you should stick to your Yugos and Bavarian beer and spend less time watching two minute YouTube videos thinking it is in any way truly broadly reflective of American culture or races of whole people in general.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

 

[Norman]

America is just an idea is one stupid idea.

 

[Mac1958]

I noticed a type of american nationalism which is different then white nationalism. It says "colourblind only red white and blue". And they also include immigrants and POC folks into the "all things american"

But they are still mostly white though. Maybe it is just a farce that they are colourblind.

You're very observant.

America is changing, fairly quickly, and becoming more brown. So many of the people who call themselves "nationalists" feel that as this continues, America will lose many of qualities that have made it great. They're just assuming that, based on skin color.

So yes, many of the people you see pushing "nationalism" are also "white nationalists" who want to slow down or stop this from happening. And it would be very difficult for you to find one of these people who didn't also vote for Trump. Is that a coincidence?

Is there anything wrong with being proud of your country, of wanting to protect what you love about your country? Of course not. Absolutely not. The problem is that much of this "nationalism" is based only on skin color, fear, bigotry, tribalism and ignorance.

That's just the basic story. It's definitely complicated.
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[kyzr]

Morti, another Brit trying to understand the US.
IMHO the 2020 race will be the "populists" <again> versus the "socialists".
The populists do not want to turn the US into the EU. The socialists want to turn the US into Venezuela.

There are many flavors of populists and socialists, so do not try to paint either group with one broad brush.

 

[Norman]

I noticed a type of american nationalism which is different then white nationalism. It says "colourblind only red white and blue". And they also include immigrants and POC folks into the "all things american"

But they are still mostly white though. Maybe it is just a farce that they are colourblind.

You're very observant.

America is changing, fairly quickly, and becoming more brown. So many of the people who call themselves "nationalists" feel that as this continues, America will lose many of qualities that have made it great. They're just assuming that, based on skin color.

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They are just assuming that based on skin color?

Or they KNOW that based on statistics of the current behavior in America and the dozens of countries which have ran this experiment?

Are you willfully stupid or lying?

 

[Mac1958]

The socialists want to turn the US into Venezuela.

Do you really, truly, seriously believe that?

Do countries like Canada, Australia and Germany EVER enter your mind as other possibilities?
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[kyzr]

I noticed a type of american nationalism which is different then white nationalism. It says "colourblind only red white and blue". And they also include immigrants and POC folks into the "all things american"

But they are still mostly white though. Maybe it is just a farce that they are colourblind.

You're very observant.

America is changing, fairly quickly, and becoming more brown. So many of the people who call themselves "nationalists" feel that as this continues, America will lose many of qualities that have made it great. They're just assuming that, based on skin color.

So yes, many of the people you see pushing "nationalism" are also "white nationalists" who want to slow down or stop this from happening. And it would be very difficult for you to find one of these people who didn't also vote for Trump. Is that a coincidence?

Is there anything wrong with being proud of your country, of wanting to protect what you love about your country? Of course not. Absolutely not. The problem is that much of this "nationalism" is based only on skin color, fear, bigotry, tribalism and ignorance.
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Your post is incorrect. We are "populists" who want prosperity for the US. We don't want Wall Street to move any more factories overseas, we want good jobs here. There is no racism in that goal. As proof, look at how Trump is gaining minority support. A rising tide lifts all boats.

So its not "white nationalism" but color-blind "populism".

 

[Mac1958]

I noticed a type of american nationalism which is different then white nationalism. It says "colourblind only red white and blue". And they also include immigrants and POC folks into the "all things american"

But they are still mostly white though. Maybe it is just a farce that they are colourblind.

You're very observant.

America is changing, fairly quickly, and becoming more brown. So many of the people who call themselves "nationalists" feel that as this continues, America will lose many of qualities that have made it great. They're just assuming that, based on skin color.

.

They are just assuming that based on skin color?

Or they KNOW that based on statistics of the current behavior in America and the dozens of countries that are like that?

Are you willfully stupid or lying?

Mortimer, see?
.

 

[Norman]

I noticed a type of american nationalism which is different then white nationalism. It says "colourblind only red white and blue". And they also include immigrants and POC folks into the "all things american"

But they are still mostly white though. Maybe it is just a farce that they are colourblind.

You're very observant.

America is changing, fairly quickly, and becoming more brown. So many of the people who call themselves "nationalists" feel that as this continues, America will lose many of qualities that have made it great. They're just assuming that, based on skin color.

.

They are just assuming that based on skin color?

Or they KNOW that based on statistics of the current behavior in America and the dozens of countries that are like that?

Are you willfully stupid or lying?

Mortimer, see?
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I have no idea what you are getting at. More lies and ignorance of the facts?

There is not one single good thing that will come out of "browning of America" to Americans. Americans should do what all other nations do and put our own first. Population replacement is one batshit insane of an idea, especially with the 3rd world folk.

 

[kyzr]

The socialists want to turn the US into Venezuela.

Do you really, truly, seriously believe that?

Do countries like Canada, Australia and Germany EVER enter your mind as other possibilities?
.

If the democrats win and implement many of their policies the US economy will tank, and with our exploding $23T Debt, we'll have to devalue our currency and look much more like Venezuela than Canada. Germany has its own problems, Angela Merkel has her tit in the wringer over her "open borders" policy.

 

[Mac1958]

I noticed a type of american nationalism which is different then white nationalism. It says "colourblind only red white and blue". And they also include immigrants and POC folks into the "all things american"

But they are still mostly white though. Maybe it is just a farce that they are colourblind.

You're very observant.

America is changing, fairly quickly, and becoming more brown. So many of the people who call themselves "nationalists" feel that as this continues, America will lose many of qualities that have made it great. They're just assuming that, based on skin color.

.

They are just assuming that based on skin color?

Or they KNOW that based on statistics of the current behavior in America and the dozens of countries that are like that?

Are you willfully stupid or lying?

Mortimer, see?
.

I have no idea what you are getting at. More lies and ignorance of the facts?

There is not one single good thing that will come out of "browning of America" to Americans. Americans should do what all other nations do and put our own first. Population replacement is one batshit insane of an idea, especially with the 3rd world folk.

Thanks again.

Mortimer, this is their argument.
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[Mac1958]

The socialists want to turn the US into Venezuela.

Do you really, truly, seriously believe that?

Do countries like Canada, Australia and Germany EVER enter your mind as other possibilities?
.

If the democrats win and implement many of these policies the US economy will tank, and with our exploding $23T Debt, we'll have to devalue our currency and look much more like Venezuela than Canada. Germany has its own problems, Angela Merkel has her tit in the wringer over her "open borders" policy.

And you think this is the Democrats' actual plan? You think this is what they want?
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[Norman]

I noticed a type of american nationalism which is different then white nationalism. It says "colourblind only red white and blue". And they also include immigrants and POC folks into the "all things american"

But they are still mostly white though. Maybe it is just a farce that they are colourblind.

You're very observant.

America is changing, fairly quickly, and becoming more brown. So many of the people who call themselves "nationalists" feel that as this continues, America will lose many of qualities that have made it great. They're just assuming that, based on skin color.

.

They are just assuming that based on skin color?

Or they KNOW that based on statistics of the current behavior in America and the dozens of countries that are like that?

Are you willfully stupid or lying?

Mortimer, see?
.

I have no idea what you are getting at. More lies and ignorance of the facts?

There is not one single good thing that will come out of "browning of America" to Americans. Americans should do what all other nations do and put our own first. Population replacement is one batshit insane of an idea, especially with the 3rd world folk.

Thanks again.

Mortimer, this is their argument.
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I was more pointing out you are DEAD WRONG than making an argument.

 

[007]

Another WHITE AMERICAN bashing thread... from an indoctrinated, disarmed, speech and thought controlled leftist wanker from overseas none the less, wonderful.

 

[Mac1958]

You're very observant.

America is changing, fairly quickly, and becoming more brown. So many of the people who call themselves "nationalists" feel that as this continues, America will lose many of qualities that have made it great. They're just assuming that, based on skin color.

.

They are just assuming that based on skin color?

Or they KNOW that based on statistics of the current behavior in America and the dozens of countries that are like that?

Are you willfully stupid or lying?

Mortimer, see?
.

I have no idea what you are getting at. More lies and ignorance of the facts?

There is not one single good thing that will come out of "browning of America" to Americans. Americans should do what all other nations do and put our own first. Population replacement is one batshit insane of an idea, especially with the 3rd world folk.

Thanks again.

Mortimer, this is their argument.
.

I was more pointing out that you are simply put DEAD WRONG more than making an argument.

And yet, you illustrate and confirm my point for me.

You should be directing this to Mortimer, as an explanation.
.

 

[Norman]

They are just assuming that based on skin color?

Or they KNOW that based on statistics of the current behavior in America and the dozens of countries that are like that?

Are you willfully stupid or lying?

Mortimer, see?
.

I have no idea what you are getting at. More lies and ignorance of the facts?

There is not one single good thing that will come out of "browning of America" to Americans. Americans should do what all other nations do and put our own first. Population replacement is one batshit insane of an idea, especially with the 3rd world folk.

Thanks again.

Mortimer, this is their argument.
.

I was more pointing out that you are simply put DEAD WRONG more than making an argument.

And yet, you illustrate and confirm my point for me.

You should be directing this to Mortimer, as an explanation.
.

You always deflect, are you going to acknowledge that you are wrong and withdraw your statement, or continue deflecting?

If you are not going to acknowledge it we will go through all the statistics together and prove without shadow of a doubt that what you just said is nonsense.