One state solution - modified

[azai]

Most One State solutions encompass the West Bank and Gaza, but my solution leaves out Gaza permanently. Israel would annex the entirety of the West Bank, as they have with Golan and East Jerusalem, and give all residents full Israeli citizenship.

to encourage this from the Jewish side, to lessen the demographic blow, offer full visas to all Palestinian families who wish to migrate to the US, UK, EU, Canada or Australia. They will take this very quickly by the hundreds of thousands. Thus, Israel no longer has much of a demographic problem, the walls come down, life if better for all people and the conflict is over.

gaza- do the same with regard to immigration visas. Then we will approach that area in a few decades.

This makes complete sense. Nothing has worked over 66 years, so a unique approach is required.

 

[toastman]

Most One State solutions encompass the West Bank and Gaza, but my solution leaves out Gaza permanently. Israel would annex the entirety of the West Bank, as they have with Golan and East Jerusalem, and give all residents full Israeli citizenship.

to encourage this from the Jewish side, to lessen the demographic blow, offer full visas to all Palestinian families who wish to migrate to the US, UK, EU, Canada or Australia. They will take this very quickly by the hundreds of thousands. Thus, Israel no longer has much of a demographic problem, the walls come down, life if better for all people and the conflict is over.

gaza- do the same with regard to immigration visas. Then we will approach that area in a few decades.

This makes complete sense. Nothing has worked over 66 years, so a unique approach is required.

What about right of return??

 

[azai]

no right of return. See, that makes the deal even better for the Jews.
Although I'm anti-zionist, I'm also very pragmatic and wish the suffering of the Palestinians to end. In this way, they get to migrate to the West and live the good life - or - stay and have the rights that the Israeli Arabs have who live much better than their WB brethren.

It's a perfect plan really, meets the humanitarian needs and political realities.

 

[toastman]

Very wishful thinking. Abbas has already stated on many occasions that he will not accept a peace offer that does not include ROR (among other things).

 

[azai]

Abbas is irrelevant, so is the PA. Israel and the West should act unilaterally, nothing can stop them.

 

[azai]

nothing can stop Israel if it really wants to do something

 

[montelatici]

I agree with that solution. It gives the Jews a few decades at least of a small overall majority.

Muslim/Christians

~3 M West Bank & East Jerusalem
~1.7 M Israel

4.7 M Muslim/Christians vs. 6 M Jews.

However, given the demographics, the non-Jews will eventually become the majority but it will be a problem for future generations to solve.

 

[toastman]

I agree with that solution. It gives the Jews a few decades at least of a small overall majority.

Muslim/Christians

~3 M West Bank & East Jerusalem
~1.7 M Israel

4.7 M Muslim/Christians vs. 6 M Jews.

However, given the demographics, the non-Jews will eventually become the majority but it will be a problem for future generations to solve.

Besides demographic problems, there are financial ones as well. Annexing the West Bank means that all civilians there will becomes citizens of Israel. So that means Israel must set up resources like more schools for example. It would cost a shitload of money.

 

[montelatici]

I agree with that solution. It gives the Jews a few decades at least of a small overall majority.

Muslim/Christians

~3 M West Bank & East Jerusalem
~1.7 M Israel

4.7 M Muslim/Christians vs. 6 M Jews.

However, given the demographics, the non-Jews will eventually become the majority but it will be a problem for future generations to solve.

Besides demographic problems, there are financial ones as well. Annexing the West Bank means that all civilians there will becomes citizens of Israel. So that means Israel must set up resources like more schools for example. It would cost a shitload of money.

If both parties accepted a deal like this, the U.S. and Europe would be so relieved they would double or triple what is going to the Palestinians now. The combined state would make money.

 

[Darkwind]

Most One State solutions encompass the West Bank and Gaza, but my solution leaves out Gaza permanently. Israel would annex the entirety of the West Bank, as they have with Golan and East Jerusalem, and give all residents full Israeli citizenship.

to encourage this from the Jewish side, to lessen the demographic blow, offer full visas to all Palestinian families who wish to migrate to the US, UK, EU, Canada or Australia. They will take this very quickly by the hundreds of thousands. Thus, Israel no longer has much of a demographic problem, the walls come down, life if better for all people and the conflict is over.

gaza- do the same with regard to immigration visas. Then we will approach that area in a few decades.

This makes complete sense. Nothing has worked over 66 years, so a unique approach is required.

drop the ability to migrate to the US and I'd say okay.

To come to the US, they go through normal channels.

 

[toastman]

Which link do you use for demographics if the West Bank?
Wikipedia has the total population there at 2.7M which includes both Arabs (83%) and Jews (17%).
Demographics of the Palestinian territories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[toastman]

I agree with that solution. It gives the Jews a few decades at least of a small overall majority.

Muslim/Christians

~3 M West Bank & East Jerusalem
~1.7 M Israel

4.7 M Muslim/Christians vs. 6 M Jews.

However, given the demographics, the non-Jews will eventually become the majority but it will be a problem for future generations to solve.

Besides demographic problems, there are financial ones as well. Annexing the West Bank means that all civilians there will becomes citizens of Israel. So that means Israel must set up resources like more schools for example. It would cost a shitload of money.

If both parties accepted a deal like this, the U.S. and Europe would be so relieved they would double or triple what is going to the Palestinians now. The combined state would make money.

I would think that the money would stop...

 

[azai]

the migration to the USA is key to the deal since that is the best nation. This way they are rewarded for leaving. Already the USA has about 50,000 Palestinians - taking 100,000 more would not be a bother.

 

[azai]

schools already exist in the West Bank. YOu think the kids don't go to school now??
Nothing much will change on the ground, except they will be free. Freedom means a better economy and less need for aid. It's a win for everyone.

 

[montelatici]

Besides demographic problems, there are financial ones as well. Annexing the West Bank means that all civilians there will becomes citizens of Israel. So that means Israel must set up resources like more schools for example. It would cost a shitload of money.

If both parties accepted a deal like this, the U.S. and Europe would be so relieved they would double or triple what is going to the Palestinians now. The combined state would make money.

I would think that the money would stop...

I am sure that the U.S. and the E.U. would agree in writing that the funding would increase before the deal is actually signed. The I/P struggle costs the U.S. and the E.U much more than the money they contribute to the Palestinians.

 

[Phoenall]

Most One State solutions encompass the West Bank and Gaza, but my solution leaves out Gaza permanently. Israel would annex the entirety of the West Bank, as they have with Golan and East Jerusalem, and give all residents full Israeli citizenship.

to encourage this from the Jewish side, to lessen the demographic blow, offer full visas to all Palestinian families who wish to migrate to the US, UK, EU, Canada or Australia. They will take this very quickly by the hundreds of thousands. Thus, Israel no longer has much of a demographic problem, the walls come down, life if better for all people and the conflict is over.

gaza- do the same with regard to immigration visas. Then we will approach that area in a few decades.

This makes complete sense. Nothing has worked over 66 years, so a unique approach is required.

A better solution would be to have a 3 state solution with gaza being left out on a limb, leaving Israel and the west bank at the 1967 ceasefire lines. No free passes to the UK, EU or the US as we have enough extremist muslims here already. Why not offer them relocation to Islamic states were they can kill each other to their hearts content.


Israel has worked for 66 years even with the attacks from the terrorist entity, and has shown that hard work will prevail

 

[Phoenall]

no right of return. See, that makes the deal even better for the Jews.
Although I'm anti-zionist, I'm also very pragmatic and wish the suffering of the Palestinians to end. In this way, they get to migrate to the West and live the good life - or - stay and have the rights that the Israeli Arabs have who live much better than their WB brethren.

It's a perfect plan really, meets the humanitarian needs and political realities.

The Palestinians are to blame for their suffering and had the ability to stop it back in 1967

 

[Phoenall]

Abbas is irrelevant, so is the PA. Israel and the West should act unilaterally, nothing can stop them.

Apart from their own humanity, which is why it has not been done already

 

[Phoenall]

I agree with that solution. It gives the Jews a few decades at least of a small overall majority.

Muslim/Christians

~3 M West Bank & East Jerusalem
~1.7 M Israel

4.7 M Muslim/Christians vs. 6 M Jews.

However, given the demographics, the non-Jews will eventually become the majority but it will be a problem for future generations to solve.

So why haven't the arab muslims attacked Israel since 1973, the demographics will never be right because the muslims are craven cowards.

 

[Phoenall]

I agree with that solution. It gives the Jews a few decades at least of a small overall majority.

Muslim/Christians

~3 M West Bank & East Jerusalem
~1.7 M Israel

4.7 M Muslim/Christians vs. 6 M Jews.

However, given the demographics, the non-Jews will eventually become the majority but it will be a problem for future generations to solve.

Besides demographic problems, there are financial ones as well. Annexing the West Bank means that all civilians there will becomes citizens of Israel. So that means Israel must set up resources like more schools for example. It would cost a shitload of money.

Which is why the P.A. threatened to invoke Oslo and wind down the P.A. I believe that Israel told them that they would refuse to take up the slack and put the ball straight back into the P.A.'s court.