One Palestinian Child has been Killed by Israel Every 3 Days for the Past 13 Years

[Ropey]

Separate the events and get to the meat of the matter. Israel is still in a state of declared war by Syria, Lebanon and the Palestinians.

Go back to the egg, not the chicken.

 

[irosie91]

Aemnity has opined that all people have a right to defend themselves from aggression
using any means possible........... a HATFIELD response to a McCOY action is a kind
of defense-----------WHO DONE IT FIRST ------does seem to be a factor usually
considered pertinent to the issue

the case does seem very suspiciously a revenge thing-----abduct and kill ----and clumsy.

I do recall-----that there were people INDIGNANT when ---early on in the case of the
three Israeli boys----people chimed up with DA ARABS DONE IT-----and some people
did do the "MOSSAD DID IT" thing Even when it was confirmed that DA ARABS DID IT---
the cry went around ----YEAH --BUT DA JOOOOS IS EXPLOITING IT

as far as I can tell-----there really is not enough information on the
muhummad abu kaider murder ----known---or at least ---released,
to be able to draw any conclusions at all. Someone murdered a
very skinny defenseless kid in a very nasty way. My impression is ---
Muhummad abu Kaider----was actually an unlikely target for a revenge
murder--------why pick a kid who LOOKS so pathetic??? He certainly
did not look like a kid who was capable of harming anyone---on the
other hand----maybe that is just the message the murderers wanted to
convey----"we will murder your helpless ones"

All of those kids that were murdered were pretty defenseless - they weren't a threat, they were easy targets and easy to subdue and unarmed. I don't think killers like these look for targets beyond the fact that they are the right ethnic group, easily taken and there at the right time.

I disagree-----the jewish boys who were abducted ---based on
physical capacity----could be presented as SOLDIERS-----all of them.

Muhummad abu khaider------I still believe, was not a well child----obviously
not well. Somewhere---in some report----on the net----he is described as
weighing under 100 lbs -------I am a tiny person (5'1") and was certainly not
a fat teen-------and even I weighed more than 100 lbs at age 16

In his pictures, muhummad appears to be ---not well.. It is hard for me
to believe that muhummad's underweight status was not an ISSUE for
his chubby mom. There is so little actually known (or revealed) about this murder-----
why leave out stuff that we do know-------muhummad, in his pictures, appears to
be dangerously underweight----he would not qualify for the military

 

[amity1844]

for discussion----to be introduced with an exciting account of my own life. Long ago-
when I was young and vibrant and beautiful, I had a job that brought me into contact
with lots of people from foreign lands----especially south east asia. Being short and
having long dark hair-----gave the people from south east asia the impression that I was human.
Also---I tend to be very non-threatening. Thus the new comers liked to talk to me.

the job involved me being there weekend evenings

It was during the time of airport action----hijackings ---etc. A young Pakistani
surgeon proudly told me that no one could do anything----NOHOW---NUTHIN' NO HOW---
to stop the action because the hijackers would either escape or be killed-----so NO ONE
is responsible-----they do not claim affiliation with any country -----they do not wear a
uniform-----and no one claims them as their own---------free lance islamic terrorism is
UNSTOPPABLE he said proudly. I answered with the clear logic of a short 20 year
old--------"any people can do that---eventually people will be doing it BACK at you"

He laughed and shook his head----"no-----no they won't"

It is possible that the murder of 17 year old muhummad abu khaider was a
'back at you' operation--------I think it is likely that there will be a lot more
"back at you" operations in many areas of the world It is true that
there have been "back at you" operations for a long time in some places. -----
eg places like India, Sri Lanka etc etc ------ we saw a bit of it already in England
but and the USA ---but nothing even close in FLAMBOYANCE to that which the
followers of the rapist of mecca manage-----------

comments??......??? anyone?

About 100 years ago a group of Zionists hatched a plan to wrest the land of Palestine away from the people who were living there.

Since then everything that has happened has been back at you, back at you, back at you, retaliation for retaliation for retaliation in an infinitely long chain of blame.

But irosie, I get the feeling that claiming an action is "retaliation" somehow cleanses it of moral culpability in your mind. That doesn't work for me.

The only question is, how are we going to stop this endless chain of blame?

 

[amity1844]

Separate the events and get to the meat of the matter. Israel is still in a state of declared war by Syria, Lebanon and the Palestinians.

Go back to the egg, not the chicken.

So what's your prescription, doctor?

Mine is for Israel to get out of OT and let everyone in the area have self-determination without interference.

 

[amity1844]

Aemnity has opined that all people have a right to defend themselves from aggression
using any means possible........... a HATFIELD response to a McCOY action is a kind
of defense-----------WHO DONE IT FIRST ------does seem to be a factor usually
considered pertinent to the issue

the case does seem very suspiciously a revenge thing-----abduct and kill ----and clumsy.

I do recall-----that there were people INDIGNANT when ---early on in the case of the
three Israeli boys----people chimed up with DA ARABS DONE IT-----and some people
did do the "MOSSAD DID IT" thing Even when it was confirmed that DA ARABS DID IT---
the cry went around ----YEAH --BUT DA JOOOOS IS EXPLOITING IT

as far as I can tell-----there really is not enough information on the
muhummad abu kaider murder ----known---or at least ---released,
to be able to draw any conclusions at all. Someone murdered a
very skinny defenseless kid in a very nasty way. My impression is ---
Muhummad abu Kaider----was actually an unlikely target for a revenge
murder--------why pick a kid who LOOKS so pathetic??? He certainly
did not look like a kid who was capable of harming anyone---on the
other hand----maybe that is just the message the murderers wanted to
convey----"we will murder your helpless ones"

All of those kids that were murdered were pretty defenseless - they weren't a threat, they were easy targets and easy to subdue and unarmed. I don't think killers like these look for targets beyond the fact that they are the right ethnic group, easily taken and there at the right time.

I disagree-----the jewish boys who were abducted ---based on
physical capacity----could be presented as SOLDIERS-----all of them.

Muhummad abu khaider------I still believe, was not a well child----obviously
not well. Somewhere---in some report----on the net----he is described as
weighing under 100 lbs -------I am a tiny person (5'1") and was certainly not
a fat teen-------and even I weighed more than 100 lbs at age 16

In his pictures, muhummad appears to be ---not well.. It is hard for me
to believe that muhummad's underweight status was not an ISSUE for
his chubby mom. There is so little actually known (or revealed) about this murder-----
why leave out stuff that we do know-------muhummad, in his pictures, appears to
be dangerously underweight----he would not qualify for the military

THIS PIG IS STILL TRYING TO FIND SOME WAY TO BLAME THE VICTIM!

I am going to vomit on you, irosie.

 

[Indeependent]

All of those kids that were murdered were pretty defenseless - they weren't a threat, they were easy targets and easy to subdue and unarmed. I don't think killers like these look for targets beyond the fact that they are the right ethnic group, easily taken and there at the right time.

I disagree-----the jewish boys who were abducted ---based on
physical capacity----could be presented as SOLDIERS-----all of them.

Muhummad abu khaider------I still believe, was not a well child----obviously
not well. Somewhere---in some report----on the net----he is described as
weighing under 100 lbs -------I am a tiny person (5'1") and was certainly not
a fat teen-------and even I weighed more than 100 lbs at age 16

In his pictures, muhummad appears to be ---not well.. It is hard for me
to believe that muhummad's underweight status was not an ISSUE for
his chubby mom. There is so little actually known (or revealed) about this murder-----
why leave out stuff that we do know-------muhummad, in his pictures, appears to
be dangerously underweight----he would not qualify for the military

THIS PIG IS STILL TRYING TO FIND SOME WAY TO BLAME THE VICTIM!

I am going to vomit on you, irosie.

I presume that infers that you weigh more than Muhummad abu khaider weighed.

 

[Ropey]

All of those kids that were murdered were pretty defenseless - they weren't a threat, they were easy targets and easy to subdue and unarmed. I don't think killers like these look for targets beyond the fact that they are the right ethnic group, easily taken and there at the right time.

I disagree-----the jewish boys who were abducted ---based on
physical capacity----could be presented as SOLDIERS-----all of them.

Muhummad abu khaider------I still believe, was not a well child----obviously
not well. Somewhere---in some report----on the net----he is described as
weighing under 100 lbs -------I am a tiny person (5'1") and was certainly not
a fat teen-------and even I weighed more than 100 lbs at age 16

In his pictures, muhummad appears to be ---not well.. It is hard for me
to believe that muhummad's underweight status was not an ISSUE for
his chubby mom. There is so little actually known (or revealed) about this murder-----
why leave out stuff that we do know-------muhummad, in his pictures, appears to
be dangerously underweight----he would not qualify for the military

THIS PIG IS STILL TRYING TO FIND SOME WAY TO BLAME THE VICTIM!

I am going to vomit on you, irosie.

 

[Ropey]

Separate the events and get to the meat of the matter. Israel is still in a state of declared war by Syria, Lebanon and the Palestinians.

Go back to the egg, not the chicken.

So what's your prescription, doctor?

Mine is for Israel to get out of OT and let everyone in the area have self-determination without interference.

Israel is still in a state of war declared by the Arabs of Lebanon, Syria and the Palestinians who have no country yet even though they were offered one in 1948.

Now they started many wars and Israel has won those wars.

The Palestinians want to negotiate from a win position with the Jews who are good lawyers.

This is why they refuse to negotiate unless it is negotiations from a fait accompli and that's just not happening.

So, if the Palestinians and their other Arab war declarers want peace, they must first stop the war. Israel has no responsibility to take care of the Palestinians since they are still in a state of declared war even though they've lost the battles and have declared themselves the winners.

So, I say this to all Palestinians and their Arab war declarers.

Get to the negotiation table... and negotiate in good faith as a people who have lost the war.

^Rx (negotiations from reality based positions.)

Or continue the still declared war which will likely result like the previous ones.

Which means more dead.

^^ Dx (insanity)

 

[amity1844]

I disagree-----the jewish boys who were abducted ---based on
physical capacity----could be presented as SOLDIERS-----all of them.

Muhummad abu khaider------I still believe, was not a well child----obviously
not well. Somewhere---in some report----on the net----he is described as
weighing under 100 lbs -------I am a tiny person (5'1") and was certainly not
a fat teen-------and even I weighed more than 100 lbs at age 16

In his pictures, muhummad appears to be ---not well.. It is hard for me
to believe that muhummad's underweight status was not an ISSUE for
his chubby mom. There is so little actually known (or revealed) about this murder-----
why leave out stuff that we do know-------muhummad, in his pictures, appears to
be dangerously underweight----he would not qualify for the military

THIS PIG IS STILL TRYING TO FIND SOME WAY TO BLAME THE VICTIM!

I am going to vomit on you, irosie.

I presume that infers that you weigh more than Muhummad abu khaider weighed.

I guess that is one of the details of his murder that is so vivid in my mind, just that feeling of helplessness that comes from being so tiny.

 

[amity1844]

Separate the events and get to the meat of the matter. Israel is still in a state of declared war by Syria, Lebanon and the Palestinians.

Go back to the egg, not the chicken.

So what's your prescription, doctor?

Mine is for Israel to get out of OT and let everyone in the area have self-determination without interference.

Israel is still in a state of war declared by the Arabs of Lebanon, Syria and the Palestinians who have no country yet even though they were offered one in 1948.

Now they started many wars and Israel has won those wars.

The Palestinians want to negotiate from a win position with the Jews who are good lawyers.

This is why they refuse to negotiate unless it is negotiations from a fait accompli and that's just not happening.

So, if the Palestinians and their other Arab war declarers want peace, they must first stop the war. Israel has no responsibility to take care of the Palestinians since they are still in a state of declared war even though they've lost the battles and have declared themselves the winners.

So, I say this to all Palestinians and their Arab war declarers.

Get to the negotiation table... and negotiate in good faith as a people who have lost the war.

^Rx (negotiations from reality based positions.)

Or continue the still declared war which will likely result like the previous ones.

Which means more dead.

^^ Dx (insanity)

They're not doing either.
They're relying on the obvious moral weight of their argument that they are the indigenous people. And that is all they've got to be.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Separate the events and get to the meat of the matter. Israel is still in a state of declared war by Syria, Lebanon and the Palestinians.

Go back to the egg, not the chicken.

So what's your prescription, doctor?

Mine is for Israel to get out of OT and let everyone in the area have self-determination without interference.

Israel is still in a state of war declared by the Arabs of Lebanon, Syria and the Palestinians who have no country yet even though they were offered one in 1948.

Now they started many wars and Israel has won those wars.

The Palestinians want to negotiate from a win position with the Jews who are good lawyers.

This is why they refuse to negotiate unless it is negotiations from a fait accompli and that's just not happening.

So, if the Palestinians and their other Arab war declarers want peace, they must first stop the war. Israel has no responsibility to take care of the Palestinians since they are still in a state of declared war even though they've lost the battles and have declared themselves the winners.

So, I say this to all Palestinians and their Arab war declarers.

Get to the negotiation table... and negotiate in good faith as a people who have lost the war.

^Rx (negotiations from reality based positions.)

Or continue the still declared war which will likely result like the previous ones.

Which means more dead.

^^ Dx (insanity)

Now they started many wars and Israel has won those wars.

The Palestinians started the war by being at home minding their own business when the Zionists came down from Europe to take over the country?

 

[Billo_Really]

A valid comparison with Nazi Germany? Seriously Billo? Not even remotely.

I have real issues with the Israeli treatment of Palestinian juvaniles in the military justice system and you make some good points - but you totally destroy the credibility of those points when you start making comparisons to the Nazi's

The Holocaust didn't appear overnight. You had years of violence against Jews and average German reactions just like Ropey's.

I challenge anyone to explain the difference in hate?

 

[toastman]

So what's your prescription, doctor?

Mine is for Israel to get out of OT and let everyone in the area have self-determination without interference.

Israel is still in a state of war declared by the Arabs of Lebanon, Syria and the Palestinians who have no country yet even though they were offered one in 1948.

Now they started many wars and Israel has won those wars.

The Palestinians want to negotiate from a win position with the Jews who are good lawyers.

This is why they refuse to negotiate unless it is negotiations from a fait accompli and that's just not happening.

So, if the Palestinians and their other Arab war declarers want peace, they must first stop the war. Israel has no responsibility to take care of the Palestinians since they are still in a state of declared war even though they've lost the battles and have declared themselves the winners.

So, I say this to all Palestinians and their Arab war declarers.

Get to the negotiation table... and negotiate in good faith as a people who have lost the war.

^Rx (negotiations from reality based positions.)

Or continue the still declared war which will likely result like the previous ones.

Which means more dead.

^^ Dx (insanity)

Now they started many wars and Israel has won those wars.

The Palestinians started the war by being at home minding their own business when the Zionists came down from Europe to take over the country?

They started the war by being the first ones to attack (attacks before 1948) and by joining the 5 Arab armies in attacking Israel.

BTW, for the 1000th time, not only was there no country to take over, but the reason the Jews came was because they were invited by the British whk also facilitated their immigration.
The whole 'the Jews came to take over Palestine' is bullshit Palestinian propaganda.

 

[toastman]

The Palestinians started the war by being at home minding their own business when the Zionists came down from Europe to take over the country?

They started the war by being the first ones to attack (attacks before 1948) and by joining the 5 Arab armies in attacking Israel.

BTW, for the 1000th time, not only was there no country to take over, but the reason the Jews came was because they were invited by the British whk also facilitated their immigration.
The whole 'the Jews came to take over Palestine' is bullshit Palestinian propaganda.

Then show me a link that shiws the Jews attacked first....

 

[P F Tinmore]

They started the war by being the first ones to attack (attacks before 1948) and by joining the 5 Arab armies in attacking Israel.

BTW, for the 1000th time, not only was there no country to take over, but the reason the Jews came was because they were invited by the British whk also facilitated their immigration.
The whole 'the Jews came to take over Palestine' is bullshit Palestinian propaganda.

Then show me a link that shiws the Jews attacked first....

The war began when the British, in cahoots with the Zionists, landed in Palestine with guns and the Balfour declaration in its pocket.

 

[toastman]

Then show me a link that shiws the Jews attacked first....

The war began when the British, in cahoots with the Zionists, landed in Palestine with guns and the Balfour declaration in its pocket.

Thats a lie, And you didnt answer my question.

Who attacked who first?? With a link..

 

[irosie91]

Then show me a link that shiws the Jews attacked first....

The war began when the British, in cahoots with the Zionists, landed in Palestine with guns and the Balfour declaration in its pocket.

mr tin----the war began long before that-----its roots are in antiquity---but the most important
point in the history of islamo Nazism is CONSTANTINE and his genocidal filth in Israel/Judea---
he was the founder of your philosophy-------manifested in DHIMMIA of shariah filth----
and the Inquisition and -----its child----the Nuremberg laws-------all harken back to
the first islamo Nazi pig-----CONSTANTINE. Great Britain is, indeed -----a descendant of the
first reich-----the HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE first reich to the same extent that your hero adolf of the
third reich is its continuum and to the same extend that rapist pig is its child. In fact Constantine
could very well be the root of the genocidal action against jews in Arabia which is the model
for the jihad of filth you support today

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[amity1844]

They started the war by being the first ones to attack (attacks before 1948) and by joining the 5 Arab armies in attacking Israel.

BTW, for the 1000th time, not only was there no country to take over, but the reason the Jews came was because they were invited by the British whk also facilitated their immigration.
The whole 'the Jews came to take over Palestine' is bullshit Palestinian propaganda.

You mean the Jews DIDN'T come to Palestine to take over?!?!?!?
So we can have it back?!?!?!

War's over

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

But one difference needs to be highlighted, the 16 year old Israeli boy was unlawfully, in violation of international law, inside Occupied Palestine, when he was attacked. The settlers and Israelis are inside Occupied Palestine in violation of The Fourth Geneva Convention. Now, we can argue who we blame more for him being where he was unlawfully, him or his parents or the Zionist government, but the fact is the Israeli boy was in a place where he was unlawfully and the Palestinian boy was lawfully in the place he was. So, there is a difference.

And there is a difference between killing of children by Israel and Palestinians in Palestine, as well.

Only Zionists are killing a child every three days in Palestine. It's not as if there is some equal fault on each side or moral equivalence on each side. The Occupation is the underlying cause for all of the continuing violence.

Well Ropey, nice to see you don't think that kidnapping and burning a 16 yr old alive is worthy of the same attention and outrage that the kidnapping and shooting of 3 Israeli teens are. Keep up the apologetics.

Conflating these events and then tying them together in a moral equivalence is apologetics Coyote.

You know that. You're an apologist.

Well Ropey, I'm sorry you don't seem to feel that the murder of an innocent 16 yr old Palestinian boy is not morally equivalent to the murder of an innocent 16 yr old Israeli boy.

That is a sad statement.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

The only unlawful place for Jews to be is Area A.