One of the Lies Behind fdr's Concentration Camps

[Unkotare]

"A mentally ill man in his mid-forties, Ichiro Shimoda, was shot trying to escape in 1942. He’d attempted suicide twice since entering the camp, and the guards were well aware of his mental illness. That same year, two Californians were killed during an alleged escape attempt from the Lourdsburg, New Mexico camp. It was later revealed that Hirota Isomura and Toshiro Kobata were both extremely weak upon arrival—too weak to walk, much less escape.

A handful of guards went to court for their wrongdoings but with disappointing results. One guard was tried for the 1943 murder of an elderly chef named James Hatsuki Wakasa. He was found not guilty. Private Bernard Goe was also tried after killing Shoichi James Okamoto. Goe was acquitted and fined for unauthorized use of government property. The amount: $1—the cost of the bullet used to kill the victim."

 

[Unkotare]

"Today, we call them”internment camps.” A more accurate term would be “concentration camps.” They were called exactly that by then-President Roosevelt as he confidently endorsed them. The name “enemy alien internment camps” was also used to describe these centers."

 

[Camp]

Yes. These dishonest astro-turfers always just change the subject and move on to the next made up ideological gibberish, and continue to contradict themselves over and over and over again. And they claim 'everybody else' is just 'indoctrinated' and 'ignorant of history'. Truly hilarious stuff.

Always change the subject fool?

The God damn Unemployment rate shot back up to 19% in 1938 ....


The war is what gave us prosperity for the next 40 years.

Yes, we're aware of how Republicans were blocking him in an election year. And the employment rate continued to climb back up after a few months, just as it started climbing almost immediately after his his first election gave the country hope instead of more Republican devastatin and misery, so you're still without any kind of historical facts for your fantasies.

Keep trying, though; it's fun reading the desperation and insanity in all the crank posts.

You libs always amuse me...

How many millions of jobs directly and indirectly did the Interstate highway system create in the 1950s?



Why was it built?


For War



On June 29, 1956, President Dwight Eisenhower signed the Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956. The bill created a 41,000-mile “National System of Interstate and Defense Highways” that would, according to Eisenhower, eliminate unsafe roads, inefficient routes, traffic jams and all of the other things that got in the way of “speedy, safe transcontinental travel.” At the same time, highway advocates argued, “in case of atomic attack on our key cities, the road net [would] permit quick evacuation of target areas.” For all of these reasons, the 1956 law declared that the construction of an elaborate expressway system was “essential to the national interest.”



The Interstate Highway System - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com



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It was originally a concept and plan formulated by FDR in the 30's that had nothing to do with national security. The national security aspect was just an issue to help get it's approval through congress when Eisenhower decided to promote FDR's idea.

Yes. These dishonest astro-turfers always just change the subject and move on to the next made up ideological gibberish, and continue to contradict themselves over and over and over again. And they claim 'everybody else' is just 'indoctrinated' and 'ignorant of history'. Truly hilarious stuff.

Always change the subject fool?

The God damn Unemployment rate shot back up to 19% in 1938 ....


The war is what gave us prosperity for the next 40 years.

Yes, we're aware of how Republicans were blocking him in an election year. And the employment rate continued to climb back up after a few months, just as it started climbing almost immediately after his his first election gave the country hope instead of more Republican devastatin and misery, so you're still without any kind of historical facts for your fantasies.

Keep trying, though; it's fun reading the desperation and insanity in all the crank posts.

You libs always amuse me...

How many millions of jobs directly and indirectly did the Interstate highway system create in the 1950s?



Why was it built?


For War



On June 29, 1956, President Dwight Eisenhower signed the Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956. The bill created a 41,000-mile “National System of Interstate and Defense Highways” that would, according to Eisenhower, eliminate unsafe roads, inefficient routes, traffic jams and all of the other things that got in the way of “speedy, safe transcontinental travel.” At the same time, highway advocates argued, “in case of atomic attack on our key cities, the road net [would] permit quick evacuation of target areas.” For all of these reasons, the 1956 law declared that the construction of an elaborate expressway system was “essential to the national interest.”



The Interstate Highway System - Facts & Summary - HISTORY.com



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It was originally a concept and plan formulated by FDR in the 30's that had nothing to do with national security. The national security aspect was just an issue to help get it's approval through congress when Eisenhower decided to promote FDR's idea.

Learn some more.....


National Defense Highway System



In 1919, Lt. Colonel Dwight D. Eisenhower accompanied the Army's first transcontinental motor convoy from Washington, DC, to San Francisco, thereby forming an image in the future President's mind of a system of cross continental highways that eventually led to the concept of the National Defense Highway System. During World War II, Gen. Eisenhower saw the advantages Germany enjoyed because of the autobahn network. He also noted the enhanced mobility of the Allies when they fought their way into Germany. President Eisenhower established the Highway Trust Fund to create a funding mechanism that enabled the United States to build a national road network similar to the German Autobahthereby forming an image in the future President's mind of a system of cross continental highways that eventually led to the concept of the National Defense Highway System. During World War II, Gen. Eisenhower saw the advantages Germany enjoyed because of the autobahn network. He also noted the enhanced mobility of the Allies when they fought their way into Germany. President Eisenhower established the Highway Trust Fund to create a funding mechanism that enabled the United States to build a national road network similar to the German Autobah

You skipped the second paragraph of your own link that gives FDR credit and points to the Federal-Aid Highway Act's of 1938 and 1944. Your link.

 

[jon_berzerk]

SO what?

Here's the thing. The Germans and Italians, besides being much larger ethnic groups, weren't the ones who bombed Pearl Harbor.

The very fact Trump can propel himself to the top of the GOP heap playing on fears of Mexicans and Muslims today gives you an idea of what FDR was dealing with in 1942. People were damned scared. the looked out at that big Pacific Ocean and for all they knew, a Japanese Battleship could show up off the coast and start shelling them.

We didn't slaughter the Japanese. We relocated them out of a possible war zone, and most of them were released within a year.

Y'all need to quit whining about it. Other ethnicities have much more valid complaints.

This was racist Jim Crow America
Germans and Italians looked like regular Americans should

Japanese did not....guess who got sent away?

In 1942 America, very few citizens complained, Congress supported it and the Supreme Court didn't care

the political enforcement of Jim Crow was entirely in Democratic hands just sayin

 

[jasonnfree]

You indocterated moron, you forgot the biggest God Damn thing



The rest of the world was in ruins and didn't catch up to us till the 80s



God Damn liberals are so fucking ignorant of history


.

Wait until the historians rate the presidents again and then they become communists, ignorant of true American patriotic history, and government historians.

Yes. These dishonest astro-turfers always just change the subject and move on to the next made up ideological gibberish, and continue to contradict themselves over and over and over again. And they claim 'everybody else' is just 'indoctrinated' and 'ignorant of history'. Truly hilarious stuff.

Always change the subject fool?

The God damn Unemployment rate shot back up to 19% in 1938 ....


The war is what gave us prosperity for the next 40 years.

You indocterated moron, you forgot the biggest God Damn thing



The rest of the world was in ruins and didn't catch up to us till the 80s



God Damn liberals are so fucking ignorant of history


.

Wait until the historians rate the presidents again and then they become communists, ignorant of true American patriotic history, and government historians.

Yes. These dishonest astro-turfers always just change the subject and move on to the next made up ideological gibberish, and continue to contradict themselves over and over and over again. And they claim 'everybody else' is just 'indoctrinated' and 'ignorant of history'. Truly hilarious stuff.

Always change the subject fool?

The God damn Unemployment rate shot back up to 19% in 1938 ....


The war is what gave us prosperity for the next 40 years.

The right wing will always condemn FDR's stimulus policies which put people back to work, while building infrastructure, as failed socialist policy. They will always then say that WW2 is what got USA out of the depression. How can they think that wartime spending, which mostly went into blowing things up, more of a way of getting a country out of a depression, than peacetime stimulus spending, which went mostly towards building things up?

Don't look at FACTS stupid shit



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In your own words, the war bailed america from the depression.

 

[jasonnfree]

You indocterated moron, you forgot the biggest God Damn thing



The rest of the world was in ruins and didn't catch up to us till the 80s



God Damn liberals are so fucking ignorant of history


.

Wait until the historians rate the presidents again and then they become communists, ignorant of true American patriotic history, and government historians.

Yes. These dishonest astro-turfers always just change the subject and move on to the next made up ideological gibberish, and continue to contradict themselves over and over and over again. And they claim 'everybody else' is just 'indoctrinated' and 'ignorant of history'. Truly hilarious stuff.

Always change the subject fool?

The God damn Unemployment rate shot back up to 19% in 1938 ....


The war is what gave us prosperity for the next 40 years.

You indocterated moron, you forgot the biggest God Damn thing



The rest of the world was in ruins and didn't catch up to us till the 80s



God Damn liberals are so fucking ignorant of history


.

Wait until the historians rate the presidents again and then they become communists, ignorant of true American patriotic history, and government historians.

Yes. These dishonest astro-turfers always just change the subject and move on to the next made up ideological gibberish, and continue to contradict themselves over and over and over again. And they claim 'everybody else' is just 'indoctrinated' and 'ignorant of history'. Truly hilarious stuff.

Always change the subject fool?

The God damn Unemployment rate shot back up to 19% in 1938 ....


The war is what gave us prosperity for the next 40 years.

The right wing will always condemn FDR's stimulus policies which put people back to work, while building infrastructure, as failed socialist policy. They will always then say that WW2 is what got USA out of the depression. How can they think that wartime spending, which mostly went into blowing things up, more of a way of getting a country out of a depression, than peacetime stimulus spending, which went mostly towards building things up?

Don't look at FACTS stupid shit



View attachment 72601

You indocterated moron, you forgot the biggest God Damn thing



The rest of the world was in ruins and didn't catch up to us till the 80s



God Damn liberals are so fucking ignorant of history


.

Wait until the historians rate the presidents again and then they become communists, ignorant of true American patriotic history, and government historians.

Yes. These dishonest astro-turfers always just change the subject and move on to the next made up ideological gibberish, and continue to contradict themselves over and over and over again. And they claim 'everybody else' is just 'indoctrinated' and 'ignorant of history'. Truly hilarious stuff.

Always change the subject fool?

The God damn Unemployment rate shot back up to 19% in 1938 ....


The war is what gave us prosperity for the next 40 years.

You indocterated moron, you forgot the biggest God Damn thing



The rest of the world was in ruins and didn't catch up to us till the 80s



God Damn liberals are so fucking ignorant of history


.

Wait until the historians rate the presidents again and then they become communists, ignorant of true American patriotic history, and government historians.

Yes. These dishonest astro-turfers always just change the subject and move on to the next made up ideological gibberish, and continue to contradict themselves over and over and over again. And they claim 'everybody else' is just 'indoctrinated' and 'ignorant of history'. Truly hilarious stuff.

Always change the subject fool?

The God damn Unemployment rate shot back up to 19% in 1938 ....


The war is what gave us prosperity for the next 40 years.

The right wing will always condemn FDR's stimulus policies which put people back to work, while building infrastructure, as failed socialist policy. They will always then say that WW2 is what got USA out of the depression. How can they think that wartime spending, which mostly went into blowing things up, more of a way of getting a country out of a depression, than peacetime stimulus spending, which went mostly towards building things up?

Don't look at FACTS stupid shit



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Following your reasoning, America needs to go to war now and then just to bring back a good economy. And you have the charts to prove it!!

 

[Unkotare]

Colorado Governor Ralph L. Carr (1939-1943)

“America is made up of men and women from the four corners of the earth, of every racial origin and nationality. It is truly the melting pot of the world. There is no place here for the man who thinks that his people or those who speak his language are in turn entitled to preference over any others. When we reach the United States, we have been transformed into new people, and we have left behind us everything but our memories and our relatives. We have become new men and women with new interests and new devotions and new loyalties.

“I am not in sympathy with those who demand that all evacuees be placed in concentration camps, regardless of their American citizenship or of the legality of their presence here. Our Constitution guarantees to every man, before he is deprived of his freedom, that there be charges and proof of misconduct in a fair hearing.”

 

[Picaro]

Wait until the historians rate the presidents again and then they become communists, ignorant of true American patriotic history, and government historians.

Yes. These dishonest astro-turfers always just change the subject and move on to the next made up ideological gibberish, and continue to contradict themselves over and over and over again. And they claim 'everybody else' is just 'indoctrinated' and 'ignorant of history'. Truly hilarious stuff.

Always change the subject fool?

The God damn Unemployment rate shot back up to 19% in 1938 ....


The war is what gave us prosperity for the next 40 years.

Wait until the historians rate the presidents again and then they become communists, ignorant of true American patriotic history, and government historians.

Yes. These dishonest astro-turfers always just change the subject and move on to the next made up ideological gibberish, and continue to contradict themselves over and over and over again. And they claim 'everybody else' is just 'indoctrinated' and 'ignorant of history'. Truly hilarious stuff.

Always change the subject fool?

The God damn Unemployment rate shot back up to 19% in 1938 ....


The war is what gave us prosperity for the next 40 years.

The right wing will always condemn FDR's stimulus policies which put people back to work, while building infrastructure, as failed socialist policy. They will always then say that WW2 is what got USA out of the depression. How can they think that wartime spending, which mostly went into blowing things up, more of a way of getting a country out of a depression, than peacetime stimulus spending, which went mostly towards building things up?

Don't look at FACTS stupid shit



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In your own words, the war bailed america from the depression.

He has no clue as to what he's saying; they never do.

Note that nobody has to defend a thing FDR did to point out the flaws in their propaganda, it's so ridiculously contradictory.

And thanks to everyone for ignoring Unkotare's sniveling and not feeding the little troll. It's much appreciated.

 

[Syriusly]

10 Shameful Facts About Japanese-American Internment - Listverse

See if you stuck to how shameful the Japanese Internment camps were and the indictment of FDR for that- you would be correct.

But you demonstrate your intellectual dishonesty by driving that clown car down the highway where you accuse FDR of everything else you can think of including the Tuskogee experiments.

 

[Syriusly]

Colorado Governor Ralph L. Carr (1939-1943)

“America is made up of men and women from the four corners of the earth, of every racial origin and nationality. It is truly the melting pot of the world. There is no place here for the man who thinks that his people or those who speak his language are in turn entitled to preference over any others. When we reach the United States, we have been transformed into new people, and we have left behind us everything but our memories and our relatives. We have become new men and women with new interests and new devotions and new loyalties.

“I am not in sympathy with those who demand that all evacuees be placed in concentration camps, regardless of their American citizenship or of the legality of their presence here. Our Constitution guarantees to every man, before he is deprived of his freedom, that there be charges and proof of misconduct in a fair hearing.”

The only American governor to speak out against Japanese internment.

A courageous man at a time when American sentiment ran so firmly against Japanese Americans.

I give credit to George Bush for so forcefully addressing the issue after 9/11 to prevent a similar backlash against Muslim Americans.

 

[Unkotare]

10 Shameful Facts About Japanese-American Internment - Listverse

See if you stuck to how shameful the Japanese Internment camps were and the indictment of FDR for that- you would be correct.

But you demonstrate your intellectual dishonesty by driving that clown car down the highway where you accuse FDR of everything else you can think of including the Tuskogee experiments.

Your insistence has no bearing on reality. The scumbag was the piece of shit he was.

 

[mak5]

Some people still parrot the "for national security!" lie behind one of the several fallacious excuses for the CONCENTRATION CAMPS that vile scumbag fdr ran IN THE UNITED STATES, violating the most basic rights of US CITIZENS during WWII.

The criminal roosevelt administration knew damn well the population targeted for fdr's CONCENTRATION CAMPS did NOT represent a threat to the nation.

Ringle Report on Japanese Internment


"(h) That, in short, the entire "Japanese Problem" has been magnified out of its true proportion, largely because of the physical characteristics of the people; that it is no more serious that the problems of the German, Italian, and Communistic portions of the United States population, and, finally that it should be handled on the basis of the individual, regardless of citizenship, and not on a racial basis."


The only other US President to operate CONCENTRATION CAMPS in the US was also a democrat, but nowhere near the scale of the criminal fdr's unconstitutional outrage. Leaving aside his economic irresponsibility; personal immorality, dishonesty, and racism, there is nothing the mindless roosevelt nuthuggers can point to that could possibly mitigate a fundamentally unAmerican crime like that committed by the worst villain to ever sully our White House.

Don't forget that the camps were not only set up for Japanese, but also Italian citizens.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

SO what?

Here's the thing. The Germans and Italians, besides being much larger ethnic groups, weren't the ones who bombed Pearl Harbor.

The very fact Trump can propel himself to the top of the GOP heap playing on fears of Mexicans and Muslims today gives you an idea of what FDR was dealing with in 1942. People were damned scared. the looked out at that big Pacific Ocean and for all they knew, a Japanese Battleship could show up off the coast and start shelling them.

We didn't slaughter the Japanese. We relocated them out of a possible war zone, and most of them were released within a year.

Y'all need to quit whining about it. Other ethnicities have much more valid complaints.

This was racist Jim Crow America
Germans and Italians looked like regular Americans should

Japanese did not....guess who got sent away?

In 1942 America, very few citizens complained, Congress supported it and the Supreme Court didn't care

Actually, German and Italian Americans were sent to interment camps.

 

[regent]

SO what?

Here's the thing. The Germans and Italians, besides being much larger ethnic groups, weren't the ones who bombed Pearl Harbor.

The very fact Trump can propel himself to the top of the GOP heap playing on fears of Mexicans and Muslims today gives you an idea of what FDR was dealing with in 1942. People were damned scared. the looked out at that big Pacific Ocean and for all they knew, a Japanese Battleship could show up off the coast and start shelling them.

We didn't slaughter the Japanese. We relocated them out of a possible war zone, and most of them were released within a year.

Y'all need to quit whining about it. Other ethnicities have much more valid complaints.

This was racist Jim Crow America
Germans and Italians looked like regular Americans should

Japanese did not....guess who got sent away?

In 1942 America, very few citizens complained, Congress supported it and the Supreme Court didn't care

Actually, German and Italian Americans were sent to interment camps.

As I remember most of the German and Italian suspects were already ID by the government and picked up early, the Japanese were not, but there was an abnormal fear upon the land. The same fear many experienced during the McCarthy period and will experience again in the future. There were even a few movies made about the fear Americans felt, but only after the fear was gone, and we could laugh at our fear.

 

[Picaro]

SO what?

Here's the thing. The Germans and Italians, besides being much larger ethnic groups, weren't the ones who bombed Pearl Harbor.

The very fact Trump can propel himself to the top of the GOP heap playing on fears of Mexicans and Muslims today gives you an idea of what FDR was dealing with in 1942. People were damned scared. the looked out at that big Pacific Ocean and for all they knew, a Japanese Battleship could show up off the coast and start shelling them.

We didn't slaughter the Japanese. We relocated them out of a possible war zone, and most of them were released within a year.

Y'all need to quit whining about it. Other ethnicities have much more valid complaints.

This was racist Jim Crow America
Germans and Italians looked like regular Americans should

Japanese did not....guess who got sent away?

In 1942 America, very few citizens complained, Congress supported it and the Supreme Court didn't care

Actually, German and Italian Americans were sent to interment camps.

As I remember most of the German and Italian suspects were already ID by the government and picked up early, the Japanese were not, but there was an abnormal fear upon the land. The same fear many experienced during the McCarthy period and will experience again in the future. There were even a few movies made about the fear Americans felt, but only after the fear was gone, and we could laugh at our fear.

They rounded up over 1,600 suspect Japanese, with another 3,500 running around, according to the Federal agent in Scat Boi's own OP, with 10's of thousands of recent Japanese immigrants who had no hope of obtaining citizenship and thus no real reason to immigrate, and then there were the Japanese intelligence officers in the U.S. before the war studying Indian languages, for the obvious reasons; they wouldn't have been doing that if they weren't intending to start a war with us.

 

[Unkotare]

"A mentally ill man in his mid-forties, Ichiro Shimoda, was shot trying to escape in 1942. He’d attempted suicide twice since entering the camp, and the guards were well aware of his mental illness. That same year, two Californians were killed during an alleged escape attempt from the Lourdsburg, New Mexico camp. It was later revealed that Hirota Isomura and Toshiro Kobata were both extremely weak upon arrival—too weak to walk, much less escape.

A handful of guards went to court for their wrongdoings but with disappointing results. One guard was tried for the 1943 murder of an elderly chef named James Hatsuki Wakasa. He was found not guilty. Private Bernard Goe was also tried after killing Shoichi James Okamoto. Goe was acquitted and fined for unauthorized use of government property. The amount: $1—the cost of the bullet used to kill the victim."

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[Unkotare]

"Today, we call them”internment camps.” A more accurate term would be “concentration camps.” They were called exactly that by then-President Roosevelt as he confidently endorsed them. The name “enemy alien internment camps” was also used to describe these centers."

.

 

[Unkotare]

Some people still parrot the "for national security!" lie behind one of the several fallacious excuses for the CONCENTRATION CAMPS that vile scumbag fdr ran IN THE UNITED STATES, violating the most basic rights of US CITIZENS during WWII.

The criminal roosevelt administration knew damn well the population targeted for fdr's CONCENTRATION CAMPS did NOT represent a threat to the nation.

Ringle Report on Japanese Internment


"(h) That, in short, the entire "Japanese Problem" has been magnified out of its true proportion, largely because of the physical characteristics of the people; that it is no more serious that the problems of the German, Italian, and Communistic portions of the United States population, and, finally that it should be handled on the basis of the individual, regardless of citizenship, and not on a racial basis."


The only other US President to operate CONCENTRATION CAMPS in the US was also a democrat, but nowhere near the scale of the criminal fdr's unconstitutional outrage. Leaving aside his economic irresponsibility; personal immorality, dishonesty, and racism, there is nothing the mindless roosevelt nuthuggers can point to that could possibly mitigate a fundamentally unAmerican crime like that committed by the worst villain to ever sully our White House.

...

 

[regent]

Maybe these periods have to be lived through to understand them. Certainly some seventy years later it looks different to people now than it did then. When the war ended, thanks to the Japanese-Americans such as the 442nd, the fear and prejudice was ending and full citizenship was now being opened for many. Best yet, they continued to vote for the party of FDR.
Still, knowing what we know now it was a mistake.

 

[Picaro]

Native Americans were also very patriotic, though the modern revisionists would have us believe they weren't and that we killed them all or something. I can't think of an ethnic group that wasn't almost totally patriotic, which wouldn't be the case if those evul WASPS n Xians had created this massive hell hole of death and oppression narrative that is being fed to kids the last couple of decades in schools.