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Democrats broke the system.
Nope. Decades of neglect broke the system. Laws need to be updated and revised as time goes on, but Republicans have decided that Congress shouldn’t be in the business of legislating.

Republicans increasingly want authority to be concentrated in the presidency, which is very authoritarian and anti-American.
 
False. Bleeding heart, idealistic deregulation was the impetus. Banks and prospectors, as expected, took advantage. Ultimately, it was the fault of greedy banks, however, handing them the keys to the vault and not expecting them to use them was pretty stupid. This is why I have always said that Democrats are idealistic children with little common sense

It was the Governments fault.
 
1. CPR Biden vs. Trump 2024 National Polling Average

2. What is fascist about masks?

3. We don’t have a war on fossil fuels. We produce more oil and gas now than ever before. Most people don’t know that. MAGA doesn’t want them to know. Border policy was a bad move by Biden. It was a reflexive response to Trump’s brutal and inhumane policies.

4. That’s a bad definition of intelligence. It doesn’t make you smart.
1) Poll showing Trump winning the popular vote against Harris, dummy. Polls are inaccurate.

2) Mask MANDATES are Fascist

3) He declared war. More expensive to produce the oil, no new leases, no investment in refining. You truly are clueless. Obama was the deporter in chief. Trumps policy of stay in Mexico wasn’t inhumane. Biden’s policies were as 1000s of girls were raped and trafficked.

4) Compared to you I am a genius
 
They didn’t promote the behavior.

Maybe promote is the wrong word. How about they permitted it. Being short sighted and idealistic, they were not able to see how laxing loan requirements in the name of fairness could and would be taken advantage of by some. Would you agree with a police chief of your town/city if he said he was no longer going to arrest those who committed larceny because some people that steal just need to eat? Do you think it may be a just a little myopic not to see that while some may need to eat, others may just want a free flat screen TV? Again, it is common sense that Democrats lack coupled with a childish, idealistic nature of the average 16 year old.

Yes, it’s a straw man because I never implied that we shouldn’t let anyone and everyone in.

There is no difference. We already did let just anyone in. They are already here. If we grant them citizenship or legal residency based solely on the fact that they haven't committed any crime(other than crossing our border illegally), how would it be fair not to allow others to do the same? If they are a net benefit, why wouldn't we?

The difference is that people who have been here for years and haven’t hurt anyone have demonstrated that they’re an asset to the country and that there is an economic cost to deporting them.

There is a much larger economic cost in the long term to keep them. You don't believe the numbers because you don't like them, but the fact is they cost us money on average.

Republicans increasingly want authority to be concentrated in the presidency, which is very authoritarian and anti-American.

Examples?
 
Bullshit. Dating back to Bush, we had been working on immigration reform by the Republican base has been opposed to any attempt.

The reforms proposed by Democrats have been horrible. The RINO immigration bill that did not pass for example was a joke. It basically said that we can stop illegal immigration when we want to, but we will only do so when so many have crossed the border. I'm not sure that could be any dumber, but frankly their base is too far gone to care.
 
Maybe promote is the wrong word. How about they permitted it. Being short sighted and idealistic, they were not able to see how laxing loan requirements in the name of fairness could and would be taken advantage of by some. Would you agree with a police chief of your town/city if he said he was no longer going to arrest those who committed larceny because some people that steal just need to eat? Do you think it may be a just a little myopic not to see that while some may need to eat, others may just want a free flat screen TV? Again, it is common sense that Democrats lack coupled with a childish, idealistic nature of the average 16 year old.
The federal government didn’t relax loan requirements because the federal government doesn’t set loan requirements. Republicans told us that the people engaging in these markets were all sophisticated and it was their money so we don’t need to worry about anything since the market will never make such a huge mistake. Ever since then, it’s still be republicans telling us that we regulate finance too much.
There is no difference. We already did let just anyone in. They are already here. If we grant them citizenship or legal residency based solely on the fact that they haven't committed any crime(other than crossing our border illegally), how would it be fair not to allow others to do the same? If they are a net benefit, why wouldn't we?

There is a much larger economic cost in the long term to keep them. You don't believe the numbers because you don't like them, but the fact is they cost us money on average.
Without these illegal immigrants, we would have had dramatically less economic growth over the last 30 years. The numbers are bullshit from fringe right wing groups, not to mention short sighted. They don’t properly account for taxes paid by illegal immigrants and they include costs from citizen children born to illegal immigrants.
Examples?
Immigration. Republicans scuttled a negotiated compromise because they just want Trump to fix it with presidential authority. The fact is that Republicans want Trump to exercise massive amounts of government authority while Congress does jack shit.
 
The reforms proposed by Democrats have been horrible. The RINO immigration bill that did not pass for example was a joke. It basically said that we can stop illegal immigration when we want to, but we will only do so when so many have crossed the border. I'm not sure that could be any dumber, but frankly their base is too far gone to care.
Being an adult means you understand that you have to compromise and you won’t get everything you want.

You are not the party of adults.
 
Bullshit. Dating back to Bush, we had been working on immigration reform by the Republican base has been opposed to any attempt.
Bullshitt back. HR-2 was submitted to Democrats and they turned it down. It was a complete solution to illegals showing up in our cities.
 
Bullshitt back. HR-2 was submitted to Democrats and they turned it down. It was a complete solution to illegals showing up in our cities.
Did Republicans work with Democrats to write HR-2 and reach a bipartisan compromise?
 
The federal government didn’t relax loan requirements because the federal government doesn’t set loan requirements.

You need to read up on CRA. It is irrelevant that many of delinquent loans were not made to the people that it was meant to help. The plan itself allowed for the abuse. It is plain and simple.

Without these illegal immigrants, we would have had dramatically less economic growth over the last 30 years. The numbers are bullshit from fringe right wing groups, not to mention short sighted. They don’t properly account for taxes paid by illegal immigrants and they include costs from citizen children born to illegal immigrants.

There is no way you can quantify the affect of not having illegals. It is very possible that Americans would have gotten off their duffs and done some of the work of illegals, particularly if social programs aren't available to allow them to stay home and watch TV and make more money.

Why on earth would we NOT include costs from children born to illegals? Are you saying they aren't productive? If we didn't allow their parents into the country, they wouldn't have been born here and thus would not be a drag. Your logic is flawed.

Immigration. Republicans scuttled a negotiated compromise because they just want Trump to fix it with presidential authority. The fact is that Republicans want Trump to exercise massive amounts of government authority while Congress does jack shit.

They "scuttled" the bill because it was a horrible bill. Why on earth would we ALLOW x number of illegals to cross the border before shutting it down? That is just plain stupid.
 
Being an adult means you understand that you have to compromise and you won’t get everything you want.

You are not the party of adults.

A compromise has to be reasonable. The proposed immigration bill was like saying we can allow just a little murder before we shut it down. Logically, one would say that if we can stop it, why not stop it before anybody is murdered?

You are a child as are most of those that agree with you. That is not a coincidence.
 
You need to read up on CRA. It is irrelevant that many of delinquent loans were not made to the people that it was meant to help. The plan itself allowed for the abuse. It is plain and simple.
CRA had nothing to do with the subprime crisis since it didn’t regulate the mortgage brokers who were responsible for making the bad subprime loans. See, I already read up on the CRA and know this is a bogus right wing talking point.
There is no way you can quantify the affect of not having illegals. It is very possible that Americans would have gotten off their duffs and done some of the work of illegals, particularly if social programs aren't available to allow them to stay home and watch TV and make more money.

Why on earth would we NOT include costs from children born to illegals? Are you saying they aren't productive? If we didn't allow their parents into the country, they wouldn't have been born here and thus would not be a drag. Your logic is flawed.
Americans are not sitting on their duffs. Employment levels for Americans is nearly at all time highs. Children born to illegals are citizens. Not illegals. Children are an investment. They cost money up front and then spend 50 years contributing to the economy. The data doesn’t account for that.
They "scuttled" the bill because it was a horrible bill. Why on earth would we ALLOW x number of illegals to cross the border before shutting it down? That is just plain stupid.
You’d think you guys would know more about the bill than just one little taking point but you don’t because right wing media keeps you ignorant. It would have very substantially changed the asylum process and made it much quicker and easier to handle, as well as harder to qualify for. You don’t know anything about it.
 
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