NOT impressed with either side

[Mac-7]

9-0, 7-2. There are no higher courts.

The dems have contested hundreds of trump EOs in court

I think most of the lib judges will be overruled

 

[pknopp]

The dems have contested hundreds of trump EOs in court

I think most of the lib judges will be overruled

As noted, even Trump courts are ruling against him.

 

[Mac-7]

As noted, even Trump courts are ruling against him.

Occasionally

Every president has lost cases in the SC

 

[hjmick]

Donald Trump's 45% approval rating is among the
lowest of any President after just 100 days in office.
With the DOW 4000+ points below its high, unemployment and commodity prices on the rise, and most of his wall street backers unhappy with his "Liberation Day" tactics, Trump's luster is wearing thin very fast. If Trump and Co. don't find a way to correct this, he'll be dealing with a Democratic Congress after the 2026 midterms.

Bad as it may be for Trump and the GOP, the situation
for the Democrats is even worse. Their wrong-headed tactics of sniveling about Trump, as well as they're of coddling every racial and sexual minority in the country
has left most wondering exactly what they stand for. Back
in the 90's Bill Clinton left office with a national surplus, a balanced budget and one of the most popular Presidents ever: how? "It's the economy stupid!" A lesson the Democrats of today seem to have forgotten.

I'm NOT impressed with either side!

"Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule—and both commonly succeed, and are right." ~ H. L. Mencken

 

[jknowgood]

No one is sniveling. The fight is against fascism. If you can’t see it, it makes you their useful idiot.

You're right, that's why America voted for Trump. Trying to arrest your political rival that is kicking your ass is fascism, exactly what Biden tried to do.

 

[jknowgood]

Trump is a criminal and is driving the country into destruction.

Not what the jobs report and the stock market proved yesterday.

 

[jknowgood]

In what way is trump a fascist?

You are just hurling insults with no basis in fact

If he was a true fascist, dumbass wouldn't call him one. Because he would dissappear. Kinda like the j6 protesters did under Biden. Makes you think.

 

[the watcher]

We're past the point of corrective action. Voting, constitutional amendments, impeachment, constitutional convention, courts, none are viable when the corruption and outside influence has this much control. This requires a population that becomes aware of its predicament and a willingness to accept the consequences and personal responsibility that will follow, and I don't think we have the stomach for it.

 

[Edgetho]

There's not as big of divide as you think. Everyone realizes we are basically being professionally fucked, the only separation is that some of us still think the remedy resides in the system, while others are not quite as sure.

There is a HUGE, Gigantic, ENORMOUS difference between between normal politicians, normal people and the scum of the ******* Earth -- dimocrap FILTH.

And those who try to pass the two off as related or in any way comparable are invariably part of the scumbag set. Every time.

Even if that someone is being honest (they're not) and they are simply too stupid to see the differences, they are an even bigger problem in that they are too stupid to be worth the oxugen they breathe.

My side doesn't side with terrorists that butcher and rape innocent young women. My side doesn't protest for the side that burns infants alive. My side doesn't glorify the cold-blooded murder of CEOs just because. My side doesn't advocate for the mutilation of children. My side doesn't fly elected representatives to foreign lands in order to hold hands with a wife-beating, human-smuggling gang member on the taxpayer dime. My side doesn't think Men should be beating up women in sporting events, my side......

If you don't see that there are HUGE differences then --**** you. You ARE the problem. The biggest problem we have -- Stupid, disinterested voters who don't know the difference between good and evil.

But I don't think you're stupid. Nope. I think you're a scumbag. You're one of them. You're just trying to gaslight your way into the 'reasonable crowd'. You're not. You're just a dimocrap scumbag trying to pretend.

 

[the watcher]

You are an extremist on one side of the narrative, and there are extremists on the other side, and the other side (whoever you think THEY are) think the same of you. You are right about one thing, it is the disconnect of the voters that allows this. It isn't stupidity or disinterest, it's a feeling of fear and feelings of helplesness, and badgering by people like yourself that are really just bullies.

 

[konradv]

Not what the jobs report and the stock market proved yesterday.

One day isn’t proof or J6 would have proven to MAGA that Trump is a criminal.

 

[konradv]

You're right, that's why America voted for Trump. Trying to arrest your political rival that is kicking your ass is fascism, exactly what Biden tried to do.

MAGA lies.

 

[Edgetho]

You are an extremist on one side of the narrative, and there are extremists on the other side, and the other side (whoever you think THEY are) think the same of you. You are right about one thing, it is the disconnect of the voters that allows this. It isn't stupidity or disinterest, it's a feeling of fear and feelings of helplesness, and badgering by people like yourself that are really just bullies.

But you're fair and impartial, amirite? Because you sit above the rest of us, amirite? So you can look down at the teeming masses and pass judgement because you are God-Like, amirite?

pretense

Or, are you really just confused by it all and you're trying to hide it with a mask of intellectual garbage-talk that you think your college perfesser might approve of?

On one side, we have honest people trying to run a country. With a country of this size (or any size, for that) matter there will always be some corruption. Contracts are awarded, National Defense must be considered when coddling one industry or another and it's all just confusing to you..... So you equivocate. You irrationally lump the parties together because your beliefs are wrong, you know they're dead wrong, and rather than admit that you're wrong, you try to convince youorself that really... They're all bad so I'm no worse than the other team.

Yes, you are. dimocraps are the scum of the Earth. Period. Whether you choose to believe that obvious truth is up to you. Your call. I couldn't care less if you sell your soul to that disgusting, despicable political franchise.

Because that's what you're doing. You're trying to rationalize your sell-out. Trying a Tu Quoque fallacy in order to make yourself feel better about selling out.

I'm not trying to change you, I'm not trying to tell you how smart I am and how foolish you are. I am simply pointing out to you that I've heard your bullshit before.

People think their so original and really -- They're not. The crap you're trying to sell is Old as dinosaur shit.

Good luck

 

[Doc7505]

******* hell.

You think the US has Proportional Representation do you?

I'm torn between telling you what PR actually is, even though you could have ******* gone and looked it on wikipedia, or just telling that you have THE WHOLE OF THE ******* INTERNET TO SEARCH and you wrote your post without even bothering and made a total TIT out of yourself.

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Proportional Representation | US House of Representatives: History, Art & Archives

“Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and...

history.house.gov

 

[Doc7505]

Then explain why the Media is biased toward conservatives and the Democrats support government funded broadcasting in America.
Is this something they picked up from the Nazi's and Commies?

 

[Edgetho]

Occasionally

Every president has lost cases in the SC

Here's the court that dimocrap scum so dearly love --

In the 1896 case Plessy v. Ferguson, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of state laws mandating racial segregation, establishing the "separate but equal" doctrine. This decision legitimized Jim Crow laws, which enforced segregation in various aspects of life in the South, and this remained the legal landscape for nearly half a century until Brown v. Board of Education overturned it in 1954.

Background:

• In 1890, Louisiana passed the Separate Car Act, requiring railroads to provide separate but equal accommodations for white and African American passengers.
  
  
• Homer Plessy, who was seven-eighths white and one-eighth black, refused to leave a whites-only car and was arrested.
  
  
• Plessy argued that the Separate Car Act violated the 14th Amendment's Equal Protection Clause.
  

Supreme Court Decision:

• The Supreme Court, in a 7-1 decision, upheld the Louisiana law.
  
  
• The majority opinion, written by Justice Henry B. Brown, stated that the 14th Amendment was intended to enforce political equality but not social equality, and that states could enact segregation laws as long as facilities for each race were equal.

 

[frigidweirdo]

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Proportional Representation | US House of Representatives: History, Art & Archives

“Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and...

history.house.gov

Proportional representation - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"Proportional representation (PR) refers to any electoral system under which subgroups of an electorate are reflected proportionately in the elected body."

For example, Germany has FPTP (the system the US has) and PR (the system the US does not have) at the same time.

Take 2017 for example.

2017 German federal election - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

With FPTP (the system the US has) the CDU/CSU got 37.27% of the votes, but got 231 of 299 seats, or about 77% of the seats.

That's not PROPORTIONAL. The SPD got 24.64% of the votes and 19.7% of the seats. That's not PROPORTIONAL. The FDP got 7% of the votes and 0% of the seats. That's not PROPORTIONAL.

With PR the CDU/CSU got 32.93% of the votes (you see that they got less votes because people don't need to vote negatively???) and 246 seats of 709. That's 34.7% of the seats. So, they got a little bit more seats than votes, because there's a 5% cut off, so parties that get less than 5% don't get seats with PR. Denmark has it at 2%.

The FDP got 10.75% of the votes, which means that 3.75% of the voters wanted to vote for them with FPTP but didn't, but felt they could with PR. And they got 80 seats instead of 0, or 11% of the seats instead of 0%.

That's REPRESENTATION in the Bundestag (read Congress if you're too lazy to be able to understand other people's labels) that is PROPORTIONAL.

The US has FIRST PAST THE POST.

 

[Edgetho]

Proportional representation - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"Proportional representation (PR) refers to any electoral system under which subgroups of an electorate are reflected proportionately in the elected body."

For example, Germany has FPTP (the system the US has) and PR (the system the US does not have) at the same time.

Take 2017 for example.

2017 German federal election - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

With FPTP (the system the US has) the CDU/CSU got 37.27% of the votes, but got 231 of 299 seats, or about 77% of the seats.

That's not PROPORTIONAL. The SPD got 24.64% of the votes and 19.7% of the seats. That's not PROPORTIONAL. The FDP got 7% of the votes and 0% of the seats. That's not PROPORTIONAL.

With PR the CDU/CSU got 32.93% of the votes (you see that they got less votes because people don't need to vote negatively???) and 246 seats of 709. That's 34.7% of the seats. So, they got a little bit more seats than votes, because there's a 5% cut off, so parties that get less than 5% don't get seats with PR. Denmark has it at 2%.

The FDP got 10.75% of the votes, which means that 3.75% of the voters wanted to vote for them with FPTP but didn't, but felt they could with PR. And they got 80 seats instead of 0, or 11% of the seats instead of 0%.

That's REPRESENTATION in the Bundestag (read Congress if you're too lazy to be able to understand other people's labels) that is PROPORTIONAL.

The US has FIRST PAST THE POST.

Germany had PR in the Weimar Republic. Its incompetence led directly to the rise of Hitler and his National Socialists. Referred to by uneducated morons as 'Nazis'

Read a ******* book once in a while.

 

[kyzr]

We're past the point of corrective action.

Not yet.

Voting, constitutional amendments, impeachment, constitutional convention, courts, none are viable when the corruption and outside influence has this much control.

What corruption and outside influence has total control? If that were true would Trump be in the WH?

This requires a population that becomes aware of its predicament and a willingness to accept the consequences and personal responsibility that will follow, and I don't think we have the stomach for it.

Not sure what consequences you mean?
We try to stay informed and vote accordingly.

 

[the watcher]

What corruption and outside influence has total control? If that were true would Trump be in the WH?

He has control over some of his appointees, maybe. That is a far cry from controlling the beaurocracy, even if that's what he wants to do. If we really want to and try to reform our government, there would be a terrible blowback and scorched earth effort that would require us to change our way of living like we are used to and step up. The shot callers aren't going to give up that power easily and have the resources to make things really difficult. There would be sacrifices, more than you can imagine, and how do you think we would react to that? We want to kill each other now as it is with no shortages.