One Example of American Workers Growing Despair; We Need OUR Jobs to Stay Here!

[jasonnfree]

This guy breaks my heart. So much sympathy in society and the media for single moms and kids, as they deserve, but little do you ever hear of an adult male being shown any sympathy, even the elderly who managers over look because the elderly cost more insurance, take more sick days and are just less desirable.

Im Done... | Jobcase

Im done...
I guess its official... I'm old. 51.. just got turned down from a job that i have experience in... what's left... can't pay rent. Be on the streets in two weeks... can't sleep...When i do, if i don't wake up. It'll be ok with me... that's just how i feel. I remember when you can walk into an establishment and show them what you know. Now everything is done via internet. Its a shame.. all this experience i have. And can't land a job... what happens to me now...dunno what to do but lay down and hope not to wake.

But I guess its just tough shit for Tyrone, as he has no family, no magic new skill set and is mentally braced for homelessness.

But at least some illegal wants that "job no American will do".

If they want jobs, you need to go where the jobs are.

Buy a passport.

No American, in fact, nobody American or otherwise, need a passport to go find a job, work and live in North Dakota.
It is to be hoped that North Dakota will not become a freeloaders' paradise just because its natural resources invites despicable freeloaders along with honest people who just want to work.

Sounds nice, but then you have to live in North Dakota.

Typical stupid and snobbish and condescending and patronizing and idiotic and foolish answer by an idiotic DEmocrat who would be stupid enough to enjoy paying at least 30% more for everything he/she buys for the privilege for living in Democratic politically correct hell holes like New York or California.

In North Dakota even the staunchest liberal idiot would find more blue skies than he/she would in politically correct New York.

In North Dakota he/she would be insulted/accosted by far fewer beggars than in liberal llinois or New Jersey.

In North Dakota he/she would find that if there is a fight Friday night in a bar it is NOT because of race, like in Chicago.

In North Dakota people don't need to enjoy the fruits of accommodations, inclusiveness, social equality, because everyone is already equal, according to the Constitution.

In North Dakota people are next door to Canada, yet no North Dakotan swears to move there if somebody wins the election who does not sing in their choir.

So, bash North Dakota, you pathetic snob, all you like. your ignorance will bite your ilk in the ass on Election Day.

I've heard about North Dakota too. A young person would do well to go where the jobs are. I see too many of them hanging around the parking lots here in California just mooching from customers. These are white kids too.

 

[aaronleland]

I've heard about North Dakota too.

That makes three of us.

 

[Dragonlady]

This guy breaks my heart. So much sympathy in society and the media for single moms and kids, as they deserve, but little do you ever hear of an adult male being shown any sympathy, even the elderly who managers over look because the elderly cost more insurance, take more sick days and are just less desirable.

Im Done... | Jobcase

Im done...
I guess its official... I'm old. 51.. just got turned down from a job that i have experience in... what's left... can't pay rent. Be on the streets in two weeks... can't sleep...When i do, if i don't wake up. It'll be ok with me... that's just how i feel. I remember when you can walk into an establishment and show them what you know. Now everything is done via internet. Its a shame.. all this experience i have. And can't land a job... what happens to me now...dunno what to do but lay down and hope not to wake.

But I guess its just tough shit for Tyrone, as he has no family, no magic new skill set and is mentally braced for homelessness.

But at least some illegal wants that "job no American will do".

. He is poised to become a government dependent is what he will do, and that is when he will find that he will be better off than he ever was working. Amazing right ??? This is the Demon-crats answer to these situations, and the coal miners will be next if Hillary is elected. They don't want Americans working anymore. They want Americans to be made weak and dependent, while the jobs go abroad for cheap labor, then to send those products back here all wrapped in their American labels, to be purchased by dependent Americans who have been put money in their pockets to buy those products from Warren Buffet's (the biggest insider ever), Dollar General stores where they got the money to shop from the over heated printing presses of the federal government.

The corporations which you vote for set up the system of earned income credits as a way for the middle class to subsidize corporation wages, and you continue to vote for this. You vote for Republicans which refuse to raise the minimum wage and expect tax payers to cover the shortfall.

Stop voting Republican. You did this to yourself.

 

[Dragonlady]

Been aware of it, but the democrats are doing it on steroids. They being weaker in character makes them more vulnerable to it all imho. Hillary will be the worst, because her and Bill are experienced at selling us down the river.

Under Bill Clinton you had full employment, and higher wages, and a balanced budget. That's hardly selling you down the river.

 

[Brain357]

Been aware of it, but the democrats are doing it on steroids. They being weaker in character makes them more vulnerable to it all imho. Hillary will be the worst, because her and Bill are experienced at selling us down the river.

Under Bill Clinton you had full employment, and higher wages, and a balanced budget. That's hardly selling you down the river.

It is amazing how they seem to forget how good it was with Bill Clinton. We had welfare reform and a lowing crime rate too.

 

[EverCurious]

And corruption, but yea those American standards are useless these days... other than in the eyes of the entire world.

Pathetic. I mean it's all there and you won't see it. you're going to elect a criminal lol

 

[Brain357]

This guy breaks my heart. So much sympathy in society and the media for single moms and kids, as they deserve, but little do you ever hear of an adult male being shown any sympathy, even the elderly who managers over look because the elderly cost more insurance, take more sick days and are just less desirable.

Im Done... | Jobcase

Im done...
I guess its official... I'm old. 51.. just got turned down from a job that i have experience in... what's left... can't pay rent. Be on the streets in two weeks... can't sleep...When i do, if i don't wake up. It'll be ok with me... that's just how i feel. I remember when you can walk into an establishment and show them what you know. Now everything is done via internet. Its a shame.. all this experience i have. And can't land a job... what happens to me now...dunno what to do but lay down and hope not to wake.

But I guess its just tough shit for Tyrone, as he has no family, no magic new skill set and is mentally braced for homelessness.

But at least some illegal wants that "job no American will do".

If they want jobs, you need to go where the jobs are.

Buy a passport.

No American, in fact, nobody American or otherwise, need a passport to go find a job, work and live in North Dakota.
It is to be hoped that North Dakota will not become a freeloaders' paradise just because its natural resources invites despicable freeloaders along with honest people who just want to work.

Sounds nice, but then you have to live in North Dakota.

Typical stupid and snobbish and condescending and patronizing and idiotic and foolish answer by an idiotic DEmocrat who would be stupid enough to enjoy paying at least 30% more for everything he/she buys for the privilege for living in Democratic politically correct hell holes like New York or California.

In North Dakota even the staunchest liberal idiot would find more blue skies than he/she would in politically correct New York.

In North Dakota he/she would be insulted/accosted by far fewer beggars than in liberal llinois or New Jersey.

In North Dakota he/she would find that if there is a fight Friday night in a bar it is NOT because of race, like in Chicago.

In North Dakota people don't need to enjoy the fruits of accommodations, inclusiveness, social equality, because everyone is already equal, according to the Constitution.

In North Dakota people are next door to Canada, yet no North Dakotan swears to move there if somebody wins the election who does not sing in their choir.

So, bash North Dakota, you pathetic snob, all you like. your ignorance will bite your ilk in the ass on Election Day.

Trump wants us all to pay more with his tariffs.

 

[JimBowie1958]

This guy breaks my heart. So much sympathy in society and the media for single moms and kids, as they deserve, but little do you ever hear of an adult male being shown any sympathy, even the elderly who managers over look because the elderly cost more insurance, take more sick days and are just less desirable.

Im Done... | Jobcase

Im done...
I guess its official... I'm old. 51.. just got turned down from a job that i have experience in... what's left... can't pay rent. Be on the streets in two weeks... can't sleep...When i do, if i don't wake up. It'll be ok with me... that's just how i feel. I remember when you can walk into an establishment and show them what you know. Now everything is done via internet. Its a shame.. all this experience i have. And can't land a job... what happens to me now...dunno what to do but lay down and hope not to wake.

But I guess its just tough shit for Tyrone, as he has no family, no magic new skill set and is mentally braced for homelessness.

But at least some illegal wants that "job no American will do".

Indeed there are heartbreaking stories caused by economic dislocation. The invention of the home refrigerator nearly a century ago put the icemen out of work but many retrained and went to work building and delivering the machines. Should we go back to ice boxes? The speed of today's technological advancements is far outpacing the labor force's ability to adjust and the spread may continue or even widen. As you said to another poster on another thread, "don't toss the baby with the bath water."

The gov't policy changes that lowered barriers to outsourcing created economic efficiencies that benefit most but not without harming some. The introduction and proliferation of robotics, self-service kiosks, and Internet sales allow for a wider range of products at lower costs but all have and will continue to eliminate jobs.

The closure of brick and mortar stores and the ever-growing use of the Internet to conduct biz will seriously diminish the need for sales reps and office space over the next 10 years.

. Ok, and what is this overall doing to the strength of our nation ?? I agree with what your saying, but if we see that in some of these things that we are doing, otherwise will have a weakening affect on our nation, our culture, our value, our military strength, our economic strength within, then and only then will we know the fall out from it all.. We need to do the very in-depth studies needed on this stuff always, and then the choices should be made to harness our technology advancements, but to do it in a way that doesn't destroy the nation at the same time. Greed doesn't give a crap about the balance and strength issues, and if we allow greed to win the day, then we all lose in the end.

Ah ... the old "greed" boogeyman. The rich aren't rich because the poor are poor and vice versa.

The fact is the vast majority of the gen pop - including most of those who fall through the economic cracks - benefit from the wider availability of products (my computer uses Kaspersky and most use dozens of foreign parts, apps and innovations) and the lower prices that result from the diminished trade barriers. Short of erecting gov't mandated impediments to tech advances - an option that is just too Draconian and damaging to even fathom - they will continue to disrupt some lives while enhancing life for many, many more.

It is of little consolation to those seemingly left behind but technology - and to an extent "greed" - are here to stay and both will continue to contribute to our culture, our military, our quality of life, and our prosperity.

Yeah, if you have money to burn, Open Borders is a God send to you, as long as you can enjoy it knowing that such policies are a big "Fuck You" to American workers and create a growing underclass that would like to roast you and your loved ones on a spit.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Been aware of it, but the democrats are doing it on steroids. They being weaker in character makes them more vulnerable to it all imho. Hillary will be the worst, because her and Bill are experienced at selling us down the river.

Under Bill Clinton you had full employment, and higher wages, and a balanced budget. That's hardly selling you down the river.

Yes, under BILL Clinton, not Hillary. She wants bigger open borders and thinks she doesnt have to deliver to american workers since she can lie her way out of anything.

 

[Correll]

Answer: lower taxes, lessen regulations, so that it is inciting for businesses to come back - we need to study shipping costs, other countries labor costs and their taxes etc.

Then phase in (and I think phasing in is a handshake in the middle that will hopefully spur them into action) an import tariff.

On the other side, I'm sorry but the open boarders thing is a no go. We cannot do it UNTIL we get the jobs back - jobs must come first.

The recent WTO Airbus ruling demonstrated that it is not about shipping costs or labor costs, it is about them cheating.


And that is our FRIENDS.

 

[EverCurious]

No that is the NWO trap closing. Not all of the wealthy belong as I have noted elsewhere many times. Regardless you are blind to even the corruption laid at your feet, yet expect to know /all/ are evil. Indeed.

 

[Brain357]

There is no growing despair. All our economic indicators are good. Stop believing this politically manufactured lie. Unemployment is low. The economy is growing. Wages are increasing. Stock market has been great.

 

[beagle9]

This guy breaks my heart. So much sympathy in society and the media for single moms and kids, as they deserve, but little do you ever hear of an adult male being shown any sympathy, even the elderly who managers over look because the elderly cost more insurance, take more sick days and are just less desirable.

Im Done... | Jobcase

Im done...
I guess its official... I'm old. 51.. just got turned down from a job that i have experience in... what's left... can't pay rent. Be on the streets in two weeks... can't sleep...When i do, if i don't wake up. It'll be ok with me... that's just how i feel. I remember when you can walk into an establishment and show them what you know. Now everything is done via internet. Its a shame.. all this experience i have. And can't land a job... what happens to me now...dunno what to do but lay down and hope not to wake.

But I guess its just tough shit for Tyrone, as he has no family, no magic new skill set and is mentally braced for homelessness.

But at least some illegal wants that "job no American will do".

Jobs shouldn't go to the one who is most pathetic. Jobs need to go to the ones who are most qualified.

But this is a communist country. The feds control the food, they control the jobs, and they dictate who we must hire.

Enjoy.

. Will be after Tuesday if the people don't see through the bull crap.

 

[beagle9]

This guy breaks my heart. So much sympathy in society and the media for single moms and kids, as they deserve, but little do you ever hear of an adult male being shown any sympathy, even the elderly who managers over look because the elderly cost more insurance, take more sick days and are just less desirable.

Im Done... | Jobcase

Im done...
I guess its official... I'm old. 51.. just got turned down from a job that i have experience in... what's left... can't pay rent. Be on the streets in two weeks... can't sleep...When i do, if i don't wake up. It'll be ok with me... that's just how i feel. I remember when you can walk into an establishment and show them what you know. Now everything is done via internet. Its a shame.. all this experience i have. And can't land a job... what happens to me now...dunno what to do but lay down and hope not to wake.

But I guess its just tough shit for Tyrone, as he has no family, no magic new skill set and is mentally braced for homelessness.

But at least some illegal wants that "job no American will do".

Indeed there are heartbreaking stories caused by economic dislocation. The invention of the home refrigerator nearly a century ago put the icemen out of work but many retrained and went to work building and delivering the machines. Should we go back to ice boxes? The speed of today's technological advancements is far outpacing the labor force's ability to adjust and the spread may continue or even widen. As you said to another poster on another thread, "don't toss the baby with the bath water."

The gov't policy changes that lowered barriers to outsourcing created economic efficiencies that benefit most but not without harming some. The introduction and proliferation of robotics, self-service kiosks, and Internet sales allow for a wider range of products at lower costs but all have and will continue to eliminate jobs.

The closure of brick and mortar stores and the ever-growing use of the Internet to conduct biz will seriously diminish the need for sales reps and office space over the next 10 years.

. Ok, and what is this overall doing to the strength of our nation ?? I agree with what your saying, but if we see that in some of these things that we are doing, otherwise will have a weakening affect on our nation, our culture, our value, our military strength, our economic strength within, then and only then will we know the fall out from it all.. We need to do the very in-depth studies needed on this stuff always, and then the choices should be made to harness our technology advancements, but to do it in a way that doesn't destroy the nation at the same time. Greed doesn't give a crap about the balance and strength issues, and if we allow greed to win the day, then we all lose in the end.

Ah ... the old "greed" boogeyman. The rich aren't rich because the poor are poor and vice versa.

The fact is the vast majority of the gen pop - including most of those who fall through the economic cracks - benefit from the wider availability of products (my computer uses Kaspersky and most use dozens of foreign parts, apps and innovations) and the lower prices that result from the diminished trade barriers. Short of erecting gov't mandated impediments to tech advances - an option that is just too Draconian and damaging to even fathom - they will continue to disrupt some lives while enhancing life for many, many more.

It is of little consolation to those seemingly left behind but technology - and to an extent "greed" - are here to stay and both will continue to contribute to our culture, our military, our quality of life, and our prosperity.

. Your twisting and turning something into a nice little package for your readers is noted, but your interpretation of my words was wrong or off the mark.

 

[beagle9]

This guy breaks my heart. So much sympathy in society and the media for single moms and kids, as they deserve, but little do you ever hear of an adult male being shown any sympathy, even the elderly who managers over look because the elderly cost more insurance, take more sick days and are just less desirable.

Im Done... | Jobcase

Im done...
I guess its official... I'm old. 51.. just got turned down from a job that i have experience in... what's left... can't pay rent. Be on the streets in two weeks... can't sleep...When i do, if i don't wake up. It'll be ok with me... that's just how i feel. I remember when you can walk into an establishment and show them what you know. Now everything is done via internet. Its a shame.. all this experience i have. And can't land a job... what happens to me now...dunno what to do but lay down and hope not to wake.

But I guess its just tough shit for Tyrone, as he has no family, no magic new skill set and is mentally braced for homelessness.

But at least some illegal wants that "job no American will do".

If they want jobs, you need to go where the jobs are.

Buy a passport.

No American, in fact, nobody American or otherwise, need a passport to go find a job, work and live in North Dakota.
It is to be hoped that North Dakota will not become a freeloaders' paradise just because its natural resources invites despicable freeloaders along with honest people who just want to work.

Sounds nice, but then you have to live in North Dakota.

Typical stupid and snobbish and condescending and patronizing and idiotic and foolish answer by an idiotic DEmocrat who would be stupid enough to enjoy paying at least 30% more for everything he/she buys for the privilege for living in Democratic politically correct hell holes like New York or California.

In North Dakota even the staunchest liberal idiot would find more blue skies than he/she would in politically correct New York.

In North Dakota he/she would be insulted/accosted by far fewer beggars than in liberal llinois or New Jersey.

In North Dakota he/she would find that if there is a fight Friday night in a bar it is NOT because of race, like in Chicago.

In North Dakota people don't need to enjoy the fruits of accommodations, inclusiveness, social equality, because everyone is already equal, according to the Constitution.

In North Dakota people are next door to Canada, yet no North Dakotan swears to move there if somebody wins the election who does not sing in their choir.

So, bash North Dakota, you pathetic snob, all you like. your ignorance will bite your ilk in the ass on Election Day.

I've heard about North Dakota too. A young person would do well to go where the jobs are. I see too many of them hanging around the parking lots here in California just mooching from customers. These are white kids too.

. No they are democrats.

 

[jasonnfree]

And what car do you drive? And where do you shop? Do you buy American? Do you write corporations who outsource? Do you support infrastructure work which makes jobs and spreads the wealth? Do you support raising minimum wage and a fair living wage? Do you support unions? Do you vote for candidates on more than single issues like taxes? I do, we do. Americans are the only ones who can bring back jobs but they will not because driving a Lexus is image and image counts more than America or fellow Americans.

Support America: 2015 and http://www.levelfieldinstitute.org

CDZ - NAFTA - good or bad?

I'll read the article later but trade works if it is done fairly, seems kinda obvious. When Japan and China manipulate their monetary system to provide lower prices, then you have problems. In terms of work, I'll link two sites below that give a sense of auto work and how much your car benefits your nation's workers. (pass them on) After housing, automobiles are big sale and profit items. People also forget or miss automation and technology advances. When I started work, technology was mechanical, today it is often automated. Where fifty people once worked to provide a service, now only a few do the same work. Americans need to copy Japan's keiretsu, a system in which they collaborate rather than pretend some imaginary market god is in control. It's kinda funny that Americans buy cars made in German, Korea, and Japanese unions and then castigate their own. Shows you how much corporate propaganda controls the American mind.

'In 2014, Chevrolet sold 597 cars in Japan. No, we are not forgetting any zeroes at the end of that figure.'
Donald Trump: Chevrolet in Tokyo, Japan, 'doesn't exist'

"While it may come as no shock that luxury-car maker Mercedes-Benz came out atop the list of least-recalled brands, with an average 0.41 units recalled per vehicle sold, General Motors, with nearly 100 million vehicles recalled since 1985, actually placed third-best, with 0.65 cars and trucks recalled per unit sold.

Of the 15 major automakers surveyed, Hyundai Motor Company can lay claim to having the worst ratio, with 1.15 vehicles recalled for every model sold since it introduced the Excel to U.S. buyers in 1986. Other brands found to have recalled more cars than they sold in the U.S. over the last 30 years (needless to say this represents a number of cars for which multiple campaigns were initiated) include Mitsubishi, Volkswagen and Volvo; Chrysler broke even, so to speak, with a one-to-one sales-to-recall ratio. (Scroll down for the full results.)" Automakers With The Lowest (And Highest) Recall Rates


'Toyota leads in recalls again in 2013, with tally topping 5 million vehicles'
http://www.autonews.com/article/201...ls-again-in-2013-with-tally-topping-5-million


'Toyota's Out-of-Control Gas Pedals, 2009 & 2010, Size of Recall: 9 million vehicles Models Affected: 2004-2010 Toyota Avalon, Camry, Corolla, Matrix, Highlander, Prius, RAV4, Tundra, Tacoma and various Lexus models.'....Company officials have estimated the cost of the blunder will top $5 billion after all is said and done, making it the costliest recall ever recorded.' 5 Of The Largest Car Recalls In History

896,600 Reasons to Care About the Trans-Pacific Partnership
Press Releases
Alabama Steelworkers Fight for Their Jobs, Angered By Korea Trade Deal


"If any single number captures the state of the American economy over the last decade, it is zero. That was the net gain in jobs between 1999 and 2009—nada, nil, zip. By painful contrast, from the 1940s through the 1990s, recessions came and went, but no decade ended without at least a 20 percent increase in the number of jobs." http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2010/1003.lynn-longman.html

"The recent job actions and “Black Friday” protests at Walmart underscored the dismal wages and working conditions of many of the nation’s retail workers. Walmart hasn’t staked out some low-wage, no-benefit margin of the labor market: its labor and compensation practices are now the mainstream. For most of the last century, the worst employers in the United States—the tenement sweatshop, the company-town mine—were remnants of our past. Today, they are glimpses into our future." http://www.dissentmagazine.org/blog/the-good-jobs-deficit

"At the top of this list is a trade policy that was designed to put manufacturing workers in direct competition with low-paid workers in the developing world. This had the predicted and actual effect of lowering the wages of U.S. manufacturing workers. Since manufacturing jobs are comparatively well-paying jobs for the 70 percent of the workforce without a college degree, this policy had the effect of lowering wages for this larger group of workers as well." How to Create Middle Class Jobs

Why is it Americans do not call out media sources that criticize American companies for government support while they ignore other nations where government suppliers and manufacturers cooperate and collaborate. Consider imports to Japan (Keiretsu). Why no mention of Japan's embargoes? Fox constantly mentions GM in a negative tone, as do most American conservative media sources. Why not call them out for bias? Rush Limbaugh supports Germany with his auto purchases, while he criticizes America's workers, does anyone notice? Glenn Beck and most of the others never touch the hard topics of fair wages, outsourcing, monetary manipulation, or work in sweat shops that amount to slavery conditions. Now all of a sudden the conservatives are noticing inequality as if it materialized this past year.

"Japan ships 1.5 million cars to America each year, but allows only 20,000 American cars into its own market. Since 2012, Japan’s yen has devalued by 50 percent against the dollar. Now Japan wants tariff-free access to the U.S. market through the TPP while it continues to cheat on currency." see American Manufacturing.org and TP

Look up keiretsu. Japanese auto union: JAW

Korean auto union: Hyundai autoworkers in South Korea strike for better wages - World Socialist Web Site

I'll take one item you listed. Minimum wage. One way to lower wages is more workers coming into this country - refugees and illegals. It increases the number of workers but doesn't increase jobs. Obama and hillary are advocates of open borders, so it's working at cross purposes to advocate for higher wages and then worsen the workers to jobs ratio like they are doing.