On what major issues do you support Bernie Sanders?

[alang1216]

Constitutionally, not.

Common defense is constitutional responsibility of federal government.

Health care is not.

SS, Medicare, Medicaid, and the VA are not mentioned in the Constitution but still exist. You don't like something, don't vote for it. It's called democracy.

 

[Ame®icano]

Other than that he hates Trump, but why???

I honestly cannot think of a single Sanders policy I like.

But as others have said, he sticks to his principles no matter what the cost. In that way, he reminds me of Ron Paul. Neither one of them ever got anything accomplished, but they remained pure to the end.

We need purists on each end of the spectrum to keep us from being pulled entirely in one direction or the other.

The Ron Pauls and the Bernie Sanders make us think about ideas we otherwise would not have. But most importantly, they make us see problems we otherwise would have missed.

Well, you can't really compare Paul with Sanders, since Paul is constitutionalist.

The correct comparison would be with another socialist, Stalin, or Hitler perhaps. They also followed their principles, and just as Sanders, when they got in power, they used government power to enforce those principles. Ron Paul is completely opposite of that.

Exactly my point. They are polar opposites.

And neither one has ever achieved anything except to make us all think.

I agree to that.

So what all of us are thinking? On one side, people think about individualism, self reliance and sufficiency, and on the other one about hive mentality and dependency.

We're talking about two ideologies, or principles.... where one is based on freedom (like Lockean liberalism), and the other one on servitude (like Hegelian philosophy that preceded Marxism).

 

[g5000]

Other than that he hates Trump, but why???

I honestly cannot think of a single Sanders policy I like.

But as others have said, he sticks to his principles no matter what the cost. In that way, he reminds me of Ron Paul. Neither one of them ever got anything accomplished, but they remained pure to the end.

We need purists on each end of the spectrum to keep us from being pulled entirely in one direction or the other.

The Ron Pauls and the Bernie Sanders make us think about ideas we otherwise would not have. But most importantly, they make us see problems we otherwise would have missed.

Well, you can't really compare Paul with Sanders, since Paul is constitutionalist.

The correct comparison would be with another socialist, Stalin, or Hitler perhaps. They also followed their principles, and just as Sanders, when they got in power, they used government power to enforce those principles. Ron Paul is completely opposite of that.

Exactly my point. They are polar opposites.

And neither one has ever achieved anything except to make us all think.

I agree to that.

So what all of us are thinking? On one side, people think about individualism, self reliance and sufficiency, and on the other one about hive mentality and dependency.

We're talking about two ideologies, or principles.... where one is based on freedom (like Lockean liberalism), and the other one on servitude (like Hegelian philosophy that preceded Marxism).

There is no one more servile than a Trump supporter. There is no group more hivelike in their thinking than Trump voters.

 

[g5000]

Bernie Sanders and Ron Paul both firmly believe we need to stop "endless wars" and draw down our overseas military presence significantly.

Sometimes the extremes circle around and meet.

 

[Zander]

Breadline Bernie is a blood sucking leech who's never accomplished shit other than to hate America and Americans. He's wholly driven by anger, jealousy, and fear.

He should be forced to live in Cuba or Venezuela, so he can see what it is really like in a "Socialist" paradise.

 

[Ame®icano]

Constitutionally, not.

Common defense is constitutional responsibility of federal government.

Health care is not.

SS, Medicare, Medicaid, and the VA are not mentioned in the Constitution but still exist. You don't like something, don't vote for it. It's called democracy.

But we're not democracy, we are constitutional republic.

I haven't said that SS, Medicare and Medicaid are constitutional. The first one is definitely not, especially after it became government piggy bank to fund their other desires. Just because those programs were not properly challenged (one time that it was, and overturned, FDR threatened to pack the court), doesn't mean they are constitutional. On the other hand, VA is acceptable as extension to military as part of common defense, which is federal responsibility.

The way I see it, only ones who are supporting government takeover of individual rights are those who are dependent on it. If you wanna give your rights away, buy some lube and bend over for them, but don't ask me to do the same.

 

[Ame®icano]

Other than that he hates Trump, but why???

I honestly cannot think of a single Sanders policy I like.

But as others have said, he sticks to his principles no matter what the cost. In that way, he reminds me of Ron Paul. Neither one of them ever got anything accomplished, but they remained pure to the end.

We need purists on each end of the spectrum to keep us from being pulled entirely in one direction or the other.

The Ron Pauls and the Bernie Sanders make us think about ideas we otherwise would not have. But most importantly, they make us see problems we otherwise would have missed.

Well, you can't really compare Paul with Sanders, since Paul is constitutionalist.

The correct comparison would be with another socialist, Stalin, or Hitler perhaps. They also followed their principles, and just as Sanders, when they got in power, they used government power to enforce those principles. Ron Paul is completely opposite of that.

Exactly my point. They are polar opposites.

And neither one has ever achieved anything except to make us all think.

I agree to that.

So what all of us are thinking? On one side, people think about individualism, self reliance and sufficiency, and on the other one about hive mentality and dependency.

We're talking about two ideologies, or principles.... where one is based on freedom (like Lockean liberalism), and the other one on servitude (like Hegelian philosophy that preceded Marxism).

There is no one more servile than a Trump supporter. There is no group more hivelike in their thinking than Trump voters.

Right...

I see that Locke, Payne, or Hegel, Spinoza, may not be your strongest field, if any at all. As soon we touched the subject you know nothing about, you went right back to only thing you know. Insults. No reading or knowledge required for it. Good job.

 

[Circe]

I admire his drive given his age and physical frailty. And he isn't a changeling, he is who he is.

That's right, and it's something we really like about Trump, too. Trump said he thought Bernie would be a good candidate, because Bernie was like him, Trump. He's right about that. The personalities have a lot of similarities. And they are likeable.

 

[Wapasha]

I got it. We’ll just let sick people die. Thin out the herd and keep it pure.
Right, Adolph?

 

[WEATHER53]

I support his free mental healthcare for all because he is in dire need of it.

 

[CWayne]

Other than that he hates Trump, but why???

I agree with Bernie that to run for office should not require that your private life is exposed to the crass and filthy eyes of the media.

 

[candycorn]

Other than that he hates Trump, but why???

He’s not the blob. Good enough for me if he gets the nomination

 

[justoffal]

Well, I don't support Bernie, I support Trump, but I like Bernie: I like his energy and his red face (though frankly I doubt he'll last till the convention on his schedule and recent heart attack. Do you know he's doing 5 to 6 events EVERY DAY???). I like his crochetiness. I like how he looked so askance at the topless PETA woman while his wife clearly thought it was hilarious.

What can I say --- I collected petition votes for Eugene McCarthy, so I really relate to the kids liking Bernie. I think he'll lose, but it's their first (heartbreaking) political romance.

Wow...what a great post....yeah I'm in the same boat. He's scrappy I'll give him that. He's up against the most crooked, backstabbing bullshit machine this planet has ever seen....the DNC...

I support the general Idea that wealth is poorly distributed but that's where it ends between me and Bernie. He wants to fix it by nuking the whole system....that is dangerous thinking. I on the other hand do not know whether or not it can truly be fixed....

Other than that I find myself rooting for the crusty little codger....he's got heart and that's half of it right there.

JO

 

[Ame®icano]

I got it. We’ll just let sick people die. Thin out the herd and keep it pure.
Right, Adolph?

All leftists believe in this and privately agree with both of them. None of them want to say it out loud because it is confirming that we were right about them. For them it's catch 22, they're waiting for someone else to say it for them, so they can label them racist and leftist get a free pass.

 

[Hellbilly]

To all the Trumptards:

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[Remodeling Maidiac]

I support Bernie on every issue.


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Just destroy the return ticket

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I can not possibly argue that the system we have now has too many holes, and has been bastardized by corporatism.
Did you know that the cost of treating most diseases across the board has gone DOWN significantly? (Yet the cost of insurance continues to rapidly rise)
Did you know that 67 cents of every dollar spent in the American health system is related to a poor diet?
Re-read that last sentence again.
We could at minimum cut our healthcare cost in HALF if Americans stopped eating shit. We have horrendous eating habits, that does more harm than cigarettes could have ever dreamed of.

Just something to think about. Maybe addressing America's diet should be the first thing to do,

I have no problem rewarding those that have a healthy lifestyle. Tax breaks based on your BMI or cholesterol maybe?

Health is as complex a problem as they come so no one solution will ever be a silver bullet. Try it, test it, throw it out if it doesn't work, repeat

I am conservative, but did not have an issue with the "Soda Tax".
Drinking soda is pretty close to the top of the worse things people do to themselves mainstream.
I would fully support a high tax on Soda and many other junk foods and including fast foods.

That is because you are a communist at heart.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

I can not possibly argue that the system we have now has too many holes, and has been bastardized by corporatism.
Did you know that the cost of treating most diseases across the board has gone DOWN significantly? (Yet the cost of insurance continues to rapidly rise)
Did you know that 67 cents of every dollar spent in the American health system is related to a poor diet?
Re-read that last sentence again.
We could at minimum cut our healthcare cost in HALF if Americans stopped eating shit. We have horrendous eating habits, that does more harm than cigarettes could have ever dreamed of.

Just something to think about. Maybe addressing America's diet should be the first thing to do,

I have no problem rewarding those that have a healthy lifestyle. Tax breaks based on your BMI or cholesterol maybe?

Health is as complex a problem as they come so no one solution will ever be a silver bullet. Try it, test it, throw it out if it doesn't work, repeat

I am conservative, but did not have an issue with the "Soda Tax".
Drinking soda is pretty close to the top of the worse things people do to themselves mainstream.
I would fully support a high tax on Soda and many other junk foods and including fast foods.

That is because you are a communist at heart.

That is because I am healthy, actively eat healthy and tired of health coverage getting higher and higher so I have to pay for people who eat shit. You want to eat shit and drink shit - then you pay for the results. Not everyone else.
The opposite of communism.

 

[Hellbilly]

I support Bernie on every issue.


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[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I can not possibly argue that the system we have now has too many holes, and has been bastardized by corporatism.
Did you know that the cost of treating most diseases across the board has gone DOWN significantly? (Yet the cost of insurance continues to rapidly rise)
Did you know that 67 cents of every dollar spent in the American health system is related to a poor diet?
Re-read that last sentence again.
We could at minimum cut our healthcare cost in HALF if Americans stopped eating shit. We have horrendous eating habits, that does more harm than cigarettes could have ever dreamed of.

Just something to think about. Maybe addressing America's diet should be the first thing to do,

I have no problem rewarding those that have a healthy lifestyle. Tax breaks based on your BMI or cholesterol maybe?

Health is as complex a problem as they come so no one solution will ever be a silver bullet. Try it, test it, throw it out if it doesn't work, repeat

I am conservative, but did not have an issue with the "Soda Tax".
Drinking soda is pretty close to the top of the worse things people do to themselves mainstream.
I would fully support a high tax on Soda and many other junk foods and including fast foods.

That is because you are a communist at heart.

That is because I am healthy, actively eat healthy and tired of health coverage getting higher and higher so I have to pay for people who eat shit. You want to eat shit and drink shit - then you pay for the results. Not everyone else.
The opposite of communism.

Why does your insurance keep going up? My coverage has not increased in cost for many years.

I rebenly was tested and found out that I have a heart condition that is 100% genetic. Eating healthy would not have prevented that in the least. How would raising someone else's taxes help?