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Got an average Mazeroski into the HOF
Mazeroski was a 10 time All-Star, I'd say that makes him far abover "average", no?
8 Gold Gloves and the greatest moment in sports history. Jerks like Ted Williams, who thought that only hitting counts, wanted him kept out.Maz got into the HOF 30 years after he retired.
Great defensive second baseman but hardly an all time great.
10X All-StarMaz got into the HOF 30 years after he retired.
Great defensive second baseman but hardly an all time great.
I guess RW thinks that the average player makes 10 All Star teams in their careerMazeroski was a 10 time All-Star, I'd say that makes him far abover "average", no?
Off the field or on the field, Rose was a grade A jerk.Strange ... Barry Bonds is doing commercials for a two-bit furniture store in Redwood City ... really sad ... far and away HOF statistics even without the drugs ... but he never apologized ...
Pete Rose ... Bobby Fischer ... Donald Trump ... they can't be great because they can't apologize for their mistakes ... the nature of girlie sports, a Real Sportsman would fist fight ... I'd love to see Nikki Haley whip ass on The Donald ... I'd pay money for that ...
All Star Game is not HOF10X All-Star
Thanks for your opinion, though
Still an all time greatOff the field or on the field, Rose was a grade A jerk.
Off the field or on the field, Rose was a grade A jerk.
8X Gold glove recipient. That in itself is pretty impressive. It's something that isn't considered 'the shiny penny'.All Star Game is not HOF
MVPs, lifetime stats, production over your contemporaries is what gets you in
30 years to make HOF. Do you know how many Second Basemen made it in during that timeframe
His contemporaries didn’t think he was worthy. Only after 30 years did they buy the legend over his actual skill.
Still an all time great
Given that Baseball today profits off of organized gambling on the game……continued outrage over Rose placing bets seems shallow.We can't take that away ... he was one of the last player/managers as well ... but he gambled at a time when all clubs houses had big signs warning players, coaches and managers that gambling on baseball was completely forbidden in baseball ... the 1919 World Series controversy was still within living memory ...
That's different than Babe Ruth snorting cocaine in the dugout ... it was lawful and social acceptable for him to do so ... it's neither lawful nor social acceptable for a baseball manage to bet against his own team ... oh, yeah, today it is illegal to do drugs in the dugout ... finally ...
I know ... baseball owners are the slimiest people in the entire universe ... but the Dodgers did fall in three, so maybe not so stupid a sport ...
a mediocre hitter and one of the best fielders of his dayGot an average Mazeroski into the HOF
He waited 30 years to make HOFa mediocre hitter and one of the best fielders of his day
Kind of like Joe Namath and the football HOF.He waited 30 years to make HOF
Would he have gotten in without that HR?
Kind of like Joe Namath and the football HOF.
Without his guarantee in Super Bowl 3, and the finger wag.. his numbers aren’t incredible. But moments can transcend things
