On the Pleasure of Hating.

[Valerie]

i only posted here cuz i thought the phony old bag was giving you a hard time, G..


i'm sure the haters HATED my posts.. which made me smile.

carry on!

 

[G.T.]

i only posted here cuz i thought the phony old bag was giving you a hard time, G..


i'm sure the haters HATED my posts.. which made me smile.

carry on!

I appreciate ya, always.

I dont think Old Lady likes my personality when I give Ding his shit right back to him.....and she's typically very nice and so I dont get upset with her when she's judging me. I am bein a dick!! So....if shes seeing it that way, I can totally relate

 

[Mindful]

Old Lady: will you knock it off, with your duplicitous backstabbing. Please.

William Hazlitt was an English essayist, drama and literary critic, painter, social commentator, and philosopher. He is now considered one of the greatest critics and essayists in the history of the English language, placed in the company of Samuel Johnson and George Orwell. Wikipedia

Died: September 18, 1830, Soho, London, United Kingdom.

So he was a man of his time. He also wrote a book about plain speaking. Something you do not do, instead,resorting to mean spirited sideswipes.

 

[OldLady]

I wonder if Mindful really believes anyone will read his work?

I think mindful is really caught up in his own importance and wants everyone to see how Intelligent and literate he is by using big words and expressing philosophical ideas he thinks people care about watch how easy it is to get your point across to others. Here I go! Hey mindless that was really mindless drivel that only you understand STFU

Those were Hazlitt's words, not hers. She hasn't produced a single thought about the OP; all she does is flirt with her boys.

You're ruthlessly red pilling today, girl. I sometimes feel bad when I go into cocky mean mode in front of you but gaawd dayum you are fileting Ham 2day : 0

I don't know what red pilling means. Is it bad?
I'm not trying to insult you, if that means anything. I'm delighted you're back.

 

[Valerie]

They don't consider the 3rd, 4th and 5th options. Binary thought doesnt win any ballgames.

Every aspect of a particle can be expressed as information, and put into binary code. So you should be careful about dismissing binary thought as information is binary. The universe could theoretically be broken down into ones and zeroes.

 

[G.T.]

I wonder if Mindful really believes anyone will read his work?

I think mindful is really caught up in his own importance and wants everyone to see how Intelligent and literate he is by using big words and expressing philosophical ideas he thinks people care about watch how easy it is to get your point across to others. Here I go! Hey mindless that was really mindless drivel that only you understand STFU

Those were Hazlitt's words, not hers. She hasn't produced a single thought about the OP; all she does is flirt with her boys.

You're ruthlessly red pilling today, girl. I sometimes feel bad when I go into cocky mean mode in front of you but gaawd dayum you are fileting Ham 2day : 0

I don't know what red pilling means. Is it bad?
I'm not trying to insult you, if that means anything. I'm delighted you're back.

Red pill is a reference to the Movie The Matrix, where he had the choice to swallow the red pill and see reality for what it actually is.

Its now used colloquially in formal philosophical debate to indicate that someone is smacking someone down with the truth.

So when I say youre red pilling, its a compliment

 

[OldLady]

Old Lady: will you knock it off, with your duplicitous backstabbing. Please.

William Hazlitt was an English essayist, drama and literary critic, painter, social commentator, and philosopher. He is now considered one of the greatest critics and essayists in the history of the English language, placed in the company of Samuel Johnson and George Orwell. Wikipedia

Died: September 18, 1830, Soho, London, United Kingdom.

So he was a man of his time. He also wrote a book about plain speaking. Something you do not do, instead,resorting to mean spirited sideswipes.

So you can see me! I figured I was on ignore.

What have you to say about the Great Man's ideas, Mindful? It's your OP. I honestly haven't seen you do anything but Mindlessly quip nonsense with ding and G.T. If I missed something of substance, I apologize.

 

[OldLady]

Old Lady: will you knock it off, with your duplicitous backstabbing. Please.

William Hazlitt was an English essayist, drama and literary critic, painter, social commentator, and philosopher. He is now considered one of the greatest critics and essayists in the history of the English language, placed in the company of Samuel Johnson and George Orwell. Wikipedia

Died: September 18, 1830, Soho, London, United Kingdom.

So he was a man of his time. He also wrote a book about plain speaking. Something you do not do, instead,resorting to mean spirited sideswipes.

You can't backstab someone who is standing right in front of you, Mindful. If I wanted to say nasty things about you in secret (which I have no interest in doing) I would do it in PM or tell it to my cat.

Duplicitous means two faced and I challenge you to show me where I've been nice to you anywhere in this thread or elsewhere in the past few months. Unless rolling my eyes and keeping my mouth shut is considered "nice."

 

[Mindful]

Old Lady: will you knock it off, with your duplicitous backstabbing. Please.

William Hazlitt was an English essayist, drama and literary critic, painter, social commentator, and philosopher. He is now considered one of the greatest critics and essayists in the history of the English language, placed in the company of Samuel Johnson and George Orwell. Wikipedia

Died: September 18, 1830, Soho, London, United Kingdom.

So he was a man of his time. He also wrote a book about plain speaking. Something you do not do, instead,resorting to mean spirited sideswipes.

So you can see me! I figured I was on ignore.

What have you to say about the Great Man's ideas, Mindful? It's your OP. I honestly haven't seen you do anything but Mindlessly quip nonsense with ding and G.T. If I missed something of substance, I apologize.

See? You did it again. You just can't help yourself. Judgemental and sanctimonious.

Neither of them, as yet, have put any meat on the table, for me to get my teeth into. Nor have you.The narrative has to be on their terms. With a sprinkling of gotcha games.

I realise you are all tribal. Hostile to interlopers.

 

[Mindful]

Old Lady: will you knock it off, with your duplicitous backstabbing. Please.

William Hazlitt was an English essayist, drama and literary critic, painter, social commentator, and philosopher. He is now considered one of the greatest critics and essayists in the history of the English language, placed in the company of Samuel Johnson and George Orwell. Wikipedia

Died: September 18, 1830, Soho, London, United Kingdom.

So he was a man of his time. He also wrote a book about plain speaking. Something you do not do, instead,resorting to mean spirited sideswipes.

You can't backstab someone who is standing right in front of you, Mindful. If I wanted to say nasty things about you in secret (which I have no interest in doing) I would do it in PM or tell it to my cat.

Duplicitous means two faced and I challenge you to show me where I've been nice to you anywhere in this thread or elsewhere in the past few months. Unless rolling my eyes and keeping my mouth shut is considered "nice."

Snide remarks about flirting, when I was being friendly. Usually, that's a male trait.

I could, but I don't take you to task, or even comment, on some of the stuff you come out with.

 

[OldLady]

i only posted here cuz i thought the phony old bag was giving you a hard time, G..


i'm sure the haters HATED my posts.. which made me smile.

carry on!

I appreciate ya, always.

I dont think Old Lady likes my personality when I give Ding his shit right back to him.....and she's typically very nice and so I dont get upset with her when she's judging me. I am bein a dick!! So....if shes seeing it that way, I can totally relate

I'm not judging, just sayin'. There's a difference. Maybe that's why I don't hate much: I have trouble making judgments a lot, but once I do -- like Ding's thread about who's the better lay -- I'm a friggin' elephant. I can put it in the closet and carry on but it's always there. It's not hate though.
Anyway, you're the best, G.T.

 

[Synthaholic]

The pleasure of hating, like a poisonous mineral, eats into the heart of religion, and turns it to rankling spleen and bigotry; it makes patriotism an excuse for carrying fire, pestilence, and famine into other lands: it leaves to virtue nothing but the spirit of censoriousness, and a narrow, jealous, inquisitorial watchfulness over the actions and motives of others. What have the different sects, creeds, doctrines in religion been but so many pretexts set up for men to wrangle, to quarrel, to tear one another in pieces about, like a target as a mark to shoot at? Does any one suppose that the love of country in an Englishman implies any friendly feeling or disposition to serve another bearing the same name? No, it means only hatred to the French or the inhabitants of any other country that we happen to be at war with for the time. Does the love of virtue denote any wish to discover or amend our own faults? No, but it atones for an obstinate adherence to our own vices by the most virulent intolerance to human frailties. This principle is of a most universal application. It extends to good as well as evil: if it makes us hate folly, it makes us no less dissatisfied with distinguished merit. If it inclines us to resent the wrongs of others, it impels us to be as impatient of their prosperity. We revenge injuries: we repay benefits with ingratitude. Even our strongest partialities and likings soon take this turn.

"That which was luscious as locusts, anon becomes bitter as coloquintida;" and love and friendship melt in their own fires. We hate old friends: we hate old books: we hate old opinions; and at last we come to hate ourselves.

Wm. Hazlitt - "On The Pleasure Of Hating" (c.1826).

I would argue we hate ourselves first and hate in others what we hate most about ourselves.

So if we transform ourself in effect we transform the world around us.

I've seen that argument many times.

But the premise here is about enjoying it

For sure, most of the wingnuts on this site get personal joy from being hateful. It’s pretty obvious in every thread. A perfect example is their irrational hatred for Chelsea Clinton, who has never been in public office and hasn’t done a thing to warrant any hatred. But she’s the daughter of someone they irrationally hate, and that’s all they need.

 

[Valerie]

See? You did it again. You just can't help yourself. Judgemental and sanctimonious.

Neither of them, as yet, have put any meat on the table, for me to get my teeth into. Nor have you.The narrative has to be on their terms. With a sprinkling of gotcha games.

I realise you are all tribal. Hostile to interlopers.

you're projecting.

 

[G.T.]

Old Lady: will you knock it off, with your duplicitous backstabbing. Please.

William Hazlitt was an English essayist, drama and literary critic, painter, social commentator, and philosopher. He is now considered one of the greatest critics and essayists in the history of the English language, placed in the company of Samuel Johnson and George Orwell. Wikipedia

Died: September 18, 1830, Soho, London, United Kingdom.

So he was a man of his time. He also wrote a book about plain speaking. Something you do not do, instead,resorting to mean spirited sideswipes.

So you can see me! I figured I was on ignore.

What have you to say about the Great Man's ideas, Mindful? It's your OP. I honestly haven't seen you do anything but Mindlessly quip nonsense with ding and G.T. If I missed something of substance, I apologize.

See? You did it again. You just can't help yourself. Judgemental and sanctimonious.

Neither of them, as yet, have put any meat on the table, for me to get my teeth into. Nor have you.The narrative has to be on their terms. With a sprinkling of gotcha games.

I realise you are all tribal. Hostile to interlopers.

Your OP has no meat, and thats the problem.

Folks DID respond, Ive seen direct comments regarding the thoughts in the pieces and you completely ignored everyones thoughts and play some corny, coy games.

YOU never even added commentary to your OWN op.

WE did that for you.

The writer was DEPRESSED. Not everyone wakes up the way that he does, and so its an inaccurate view of the overall human condition and instead just an insight into depression. Specifically, his OWN depression.

^ thats way more words regarding the topic than YOUVE offered, which is what old lady was correctly pointing out, control freak.

 

[Mindful]

The pleasure of hating, like a poisonous mineral, eats into the heart of religion, and turns it to rankling spleen and bigotry; it makes patriotism an excuse for carrying fire, pestilence, and famine into other lands: it leaves to virtue nothing but the spirit of censoriousness, and a narrow, jealous, inquisitorial watchfulness over the actions and motives of others. What have the different sects, creeds, doctrines in religion been but so many pretexts set up for men to wrangle, to quarrel, to tear one another in pieces about, like a target as a mark to shoot at? Does any one suppose that the love of country in an Englishman implies any friendly feeling or disposition to serve another bearing the same name? No, it means only hatred to the French or the inhabitants of any other country that we happen to be at war with for the time. Does the love of virtue denote any wish to discover or amend our own faults? No, but it atones for an obstinate adherence to our own vices by the most virulent intolerance to human frailties. This principle is of a most universal application. It extends to good as well as evil: if it makes us hate folly, it makes us no less dissatisfied with distinguished merit. If it inclines us to resent the wrongs of others, it impels us to be as impatient of their prosperity. We revenge injuries: we repay benefits with ingratitude. Even our strongest partialities and likings soon take this turn.

"That which was luscious as locusts, anon becomes bitter as coloquintida;" and love and friendship melt in their own fires. We hate old friends: we hate old books: we hate old opinions; and at last we come to hate ourselves.

Wm. Hazlitt - "On The Pleasure Of Hating" (c.1826).

I would argue we hate ourselves first and hate in others what we hate most about ourselves.

So if we transform ourself in effect we transform the world around us.

I've seen that argument many times.

But the premise here is about enjoying it

For sure, most of the wingnuts on this site get personal joy from being hateful. It’s pretty obvious in every thread. A perfect example is their irrational hatred for Chelsea Clinton, who has never been in public office and hasn’t done a thing to warrant any hatred. But she’s the daughter of someone they irrationally hate, and that’s all they need.

One could apply that argument across the board.

Who really does anything to warrant irrational hatred?

It's all around us. A sign of our cynical times, I guess.

 

[G.T.]

i only posted here cuz i thought the phony old bag was giving you a hard time, G..


i'm sure the haters HATED my posts.. which made me smile.

carry on!

I appreciate ya, always.

I dont think Old Lady likes my personality when I give Ding his shit right back to him.....and she's typically very nice and so I dont get upset with her when she's judging me. I am bein a dick!! So....if shes seeing it that way, I can totally relate

I'm not judging, just sayin'. There's a difference. Maybe that's why I don't hate much: I have trouble making judgments a lot, but once I do -- like Ding's thread about who's the better lay -- I'm a friggin' elephant. I can put it in the closet and carry on but it's always there. It's not hate though.
Anyway, you're the best, G.T.

Well, youre always reasonable and so when you have something to say about my behavior, I find it easier to accept and contemplate.

 

[OldLady]

Old Lady: will you knock it off, with your duplicitous backstabbing. Please.

William Hazlitt was an English essayist, drama and literary critic, painter, social commentator, and philosopher. He is now considered one of the greatest critics and essayists in the history of the English language, placed in the company of Samuel Johnson and George Orwell. Wikipedia

Died: September 18, 1830, Soho, London, United Kingdom.

So he was a man of his time. He also wrote a book about plain speaking. Something you do not do, instead,resorting to mean spirited sideswipes.

So you can see me! I figured I was on ignore.

What have you to say about the Great Man's ideas, Mindful? It's your OP. I honestly haven't seen you do anything but Mindlessly quip nonsense with ding and G.T. If I missed something of substance, I apologize.

See? You did it again. You just can't help yourself. Judgemental and sanctimonious.

Neither of them, as yet, have put any meat on the table, for me to get my teeth into. Nor have you.The narrative has to be on their terms. With a sprinkling of gotcha games.

I realise you are all tribal. Hostile to interlopers.

I'm sorry the on topic remarks I've made here haven't been sufficiently meaty for you. I don't know whose "tribe" you think I'm fighting for. I agree with G.T. and now Ding that Jung's theory--that what we hate in others is what we hate in ourselves--is not always the case.
I felt sorry for Hazlitt, reading that excerpt. He sounded frustrated and defeated, to me. I didn't mean any disrespect to him.

 

[Mindful]

Old Lady: will you knock it off, with your duplicitous backstabbing. Please.

William Hazlitt was an English essayist, drama and literary critic, painter, social commentator, and philosopher. He is now considered one of the greatest critics and essayists in the history of the English language, placed in the company of Samuel Johnson and George Orwell. Wikipedia

Died: September 18, 1830, Soho, London, United Kingdom.

So he was a man of his time. He also wrote a book about plain speaking. Something you do not do, instead,resorting to mean spirited sideswipes.

So you can see me! I figured I was on ignore.

What have you to say about the Great Man's ideas, Mindful? It's your OP. I honestly haven't seen you do anything but Mindlessly quip nonsense with ding and G.T. If I missed something of substance, I apologize.

See? You did it again. You just can't help yourself. Judgemental and sanctimonious.

Neither of them, as yet, have put any meat on the table, for me to get my teeth into. Nor have you.The narrative has to be on their terms. With a sprinkling of gotcha games.

I realise you are all tribal. Hostile to interlopers.

Your OP has no meat, and thats the problem.

Folks DID respond, Ive seen direct comments regarding the thoughts in the pieces and you completely ignored everyones thoughts and play some corny, coy games.

YOU never even added commentary to your OWN op.

WE did that for you.

The writer was DEPRESSED. Not everyone wakes up the way that he does, and so its an inaccurate view of the overall human condition and instead just an insight into depression. Specifically, his OWN depression.

^ thats way more words regarding the topic than YOUVE offered, which is what old lady was correctly pointing out, control freak.

Whatever turns you on.

 

[Valerie]

Who really does anything to warrant irrational hatred?

hackers, data miners, and the sockaholic longcon they rode in on.

 

[G.T.]

Old Lady: will you knock it off, with your duplicitous backstabbing. Please.

William Hazlitt was an English essayist, drama and literary critic, painter, social commentator, and philosopher. He is now considered one of the greatest critics and essayists in the history of the English language, placed in the company of Samuel Johnson and George Orwell. Wikipedia

Died: September 18, 1830, Soho, London, United Kingdom.

So he was a man of his time. He also wrote a book about plain speaking. Something you do not do, instead,resorting to mean spirited sideswipes.

So you can see me! I figured I was on ignore.

What have you to say about the Great Man's ideas, Mindful? It's your OP. I honestly haven't seen you do anything but Mindlessly quip nonsense with ding and G.T. If I missed something of substance, I apologize.

See? You did it again. You just can't help yourself. Judgemental and sanctimonious.

Neither of them, as yet, have put any meat on the table, for me to get my teeth into. Nor have you.The narrative has to be on their terms. With a sprinkling of gotcha games.

I realise you are all tribal. Hostile to interlopers.

Your OP has no meat, and thats the problem.

Folks DID respond, Ive seen direct comments regarding the thoughts in the pieces and you completely ignored everyones thoughts and play some corny, coy games.

YOU never even added commentary to your OWN op.

WE did that for you.

The writer was DEPRESSED. Not everyone wakes up the way that he does, and so its an inaccurate view of the overall human condition and instead just an insight into depression. Specifically, his OWN depression.

^ thats way more words regarding the topic than YOUVE offered, which is what old lady was correctly pointing out, control freak.

Whatever turns you on.

This is how youve responded to ALL direct commentary on the OP.

Coy, and childish. Then you wonder why old ladys said what shes said. Its lame, but whatever floats your boat.