OMG, Trump Just Shot Himself in the Ass on H1-B Visas

[RodISHI]

They must want movie star quality. Some people think Obama is a specimen to look at.....

Specimen of what?



Hi Rod! Lonnnng time no see!

Hi Zoom, I have been around off and on. Since last fall we got Internet back. Not sure how long we can keep it. I've been catching up on a lot of things.

"specimen" for those strange people they claimed they thought he was a dream boat.....lol

 

[Indeependent]

The overwhelming majority of H1-Bs come from India, not US Universities.
I was disappointed in Trump's statement and he should be flooded with Tweets concerning this issue.

 

[RodISHI]

The overwhelming majority of H1-Bs come from India, not US Universities.
I was disappointed in Trump's statement and he should be flooded with Tweets concerning this issue.

I came across a website where it led people through how to get visa's if they could get to Mumbai and once they were here they could apply for all kinds of rebates, grants, SSI, odd legal filings being passed out, etc... When I checked the website had moved and renamed and so forth all over the place to keep the information being put out. I was saving all the info and the old computer crashed and I could not recall the exact name. Then I could not find it again. Very strange stuff.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Donald Trump has been telling everyone for months now that he wants to curtail the abuse of the H1-B visa system as has Ted Cruz. Tonight during the debate Trump said he has changed his mind and now he is OK with expanding H1-B visas.

Well, first of all, we need to work the H1-B program so that we allow them to come here and work, but not allow them to supplant Americans from their existing jobs. We'll say "We're sorry, but that job is taken. Go look for a job like everyone else. You don't get preferential treatment."

 

[Super_Lantern]

Trump is a flip-flopper. No history of conservative stances

 

[Indeependent]

Donald Trump has been telling everyone for months now that he wants to curtail the abuse of the H1-B visa system as has Ted Cruz. Tonight during the debate Trump said he has changed his mind and now he is OK with expanding H1-B visas.

Well, first of all, we need to work the H1-B program so that we allow them to come here and work, but not allow them to supplant Americans from their existing jobs. We'll say "We're sorry, but that job is taken. Go look for a job like everyone else. You don't get preferential treatment."

Then companies will fire one employee a month and replace that "empty" position with an H1-B.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Donald Trump has been telling everyone for months now that he wants to curtail the abuse of the H1-B visa system as has Ted Cruz. Tonight during the debate Trump said he has changed his mind and now he is OK with expanding H1-B visas.

Well, first of all, we need to work the H1-B program so that we allow them to come here and work, but not allow them to supplant Americans from their existing jobs. We'll say "We're sorry, but that job is taken. Go look for a job like everyone else. You don't get preferential treatment."

Then companies will fire one employee a month and replace that "empty" position with an H1-B.

Well then such a practice should be rendered illegal. A business can't just arbitrarily fire someone just to meet a quota the government imposes on businesses. I think that would qualify as employment discrimination.

 

[Vigilante]

Donald Trump on Thursday night said he's changing his stance on visas for highly skilled immigrant workers.

"I’m changing it, and I’m softening the position because we need to have talented people in this country," Trump said at the Fox News GOP debate in Michigan.

Trump's comments came after debate moderator Megyn Kelly raised the issue. Kelly noted that Trump had previously opposed those visas, saying they "decimate American workers," but appeared to change his position at an earlier CNBC debate. Trump said recipients of the visas go to high-profile U.S. universities and "desperately" want to remain in the country. He said they should be allowed to stay and work in places that need high-skilled workers, such as Silicon Valley.

"We need highly-skilled people in this country," Trump said. "For that purpose, we absolutely have to be able to keep the brainpower in this country."

Trump keeps expanding his LONG GAME of winning the GENERAL ELECTION. It will be interesting to see if people that are voting in upcoming primaries realize this, or go off the deep end when we already know that his positions on PP, healthcare, amnesty etc. are meant to increase his voter base. Apparently this is working as the newest polls show Trump roughly 20% HIGHER than either of the other 2 candidates.

If you want to win against a SOCIALIST that wants to give away FREE SHIT, you have to modify a strict conservative approach that will NOT garner you the votes needed to win. Would you all rather have The Hildebeast, a Commie bastard, or the Trumpster... it's YOUR VOTE!

 

[JimBowie1958]

Donald Trump has been telling everyone for months now that he wants to curtail the abuse of the H1-B visa system as has Ted Cruz. Tonight during the debate Trump said he has changed his mind and now he is OK with expanding H1-B visas.

Well, first of all, we need to work the H1-B program so that we allow them to come here and work, but not allow them to supplant Americans from their existing jobs. We'll say "We're sorry, but that job is taken. Go look for a job like everyone else. You don't get preferential treatment."

I agree but we also need to reduce the numbers brought in at least until all our native American STEM people can find employment in their career fields.

This is something that directly impacts me. I am a software engineer and at the age of 58 coming off two years of disability due to a bad back, I am not getting the responses on my job search that I used to get prior to the H2-B explosion in the late nineties.

When Americans apply for a job that specifies what editor a person has experience with, that is horse shit. Any hiring company should be willing to do a little training for new employees, a little ramp up time.

But what these companies do now is they find an H1-B and then tailor the job description to match his resume. If some American applies that just happens to meet the criteria, they pull the job slot, retailor the H1-B's resume and then retailor the job description to match.

Then the company simply has to hire the H1-B because they cant find any Americans that meet the qualifications.



Trump was sounding like he understood the scam, but apparently he really doesnt.

But it isnt just the H1-B issue, but the fact that Trump has all the firmness of warm molasses. Why vote for a candidate when a year from now, yo cant depend on him to still believe the same thing he said he believed when you voted for him?

 

[Indeependent]

Donald Trump has been telling everyone for months now that he wants to curtail the abuse of the H1-B visa system as has Ted Cruz. Tonight during the debate Trump said he has changed his mind and now he is OK with expanding H1-B visas.

Well, first of all, we need to work the H1-B program so that we allow them to come here and work, but not allow them to supplant Americans from their existing jobs. We'll say "We're sorry, but that job is taken. Go look for a job like everyone else. You don't get preferential treatment."

Then companies will fire one employee a month and replace that "empty" position with an H1-B.

Well then such a practice should be rendered illegal. A business can't just arbitrarily fire someone just to meet a quota the government imposes on businesses. I think that would qualify as employment discrimination.

"At Will" Employment.
I have discussed this with attorneys and companies CAN fire an employee for the flimsiest of reasons.
The onus is on the fired employee to prove some sort of discrimination or conspiracy.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Trump (paraphrased), I can screw over American workers and say it on TV and I won't lose any of my supporters. It's incredible!"

While I am a Cruz supporter, I had no real problem with Trump inning because he is very similar to Cruz.

No longer.

You know... it would be easier to fix the economy and give businesses more freedom to hire who they want instead of who the government wants.

 

[Indeependent]

The overwhelming majority of H1-Bs come from India, not US Universities.
I was disappointed in Trump's statement and he should be flooded with Tweets concerning this issue.

I Tweeted Trump.

 

[Indeependent]

Trump (paraphrased), I can screw over American workers and say it on TV and I won't lose any of my supporters. It's incredible!"

While I am a Cruz supporter, I had no real problem with Trump inning because he is very similar to Cruz.

No longer.

You know... it would be easier to fix the economy and give businesses more freedom to hire who they want instead of who the government wants.

Companies DO hire who they want for as cheap as possible.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Donald Trump on Thursday night said he's changing his stance on visas for highly skilled immigrant workers.

"I’m changing it, and I’m softening the position because we need to have talented people in this country," Trump said at the Fox News GOP debate in Michigan.

Trump's comments came after debate moderator Megyn Kelly raised the issue. Kelly noted that Trump had previously opposed those visas, saying they "decimate American workers," but appeared to change his position at an earlier CNBC debate. Trump said recipients of the visas go to high-profile U.S. universities and "desperately" want to remain in the country. He said they should be allowed to stay and work in places that need high-skilled workers, such as Silicon Valley.

"We need highly-skilled people in this country," Trump said. "For that purpose, we absolutely have to be able to keep the brainpower in this country."

Trump keeps expanding his LONG GAME of winning the GENERAL ELECTION. It will be interesting to see if people that are voting in upcoming primaries realize this, or go off the deep end when we already know that his positions on PP, healthcare, amnesty etc. are meant to increase his voter base. Apparently this is working as the newest polls show Trump roughly 20% HIGHER than either of the other 2 candidates....

If you want to win against a SOCIALIST that wants to give away FREE SHIT, you have to modify a strict conservative approach that will NOT garner you the votes needed to win. Would you all rather have The Hildebeast, a Commie bastard, or the Trumpster... it's YOUR VOTE!

You know, I've been hearing how we must vote for the general interest of the nation and not just ourselves and I have been doing that for 40 years now.

And where has that left me? 58 years old, with 2 slipped discs and no disability, and no hope of ever getting hired again in my profession because of lying ass mother fuckers who tell me one thing during the election then do a totally different thing when they get into office.

Hell, Trump isnt even waiting to get into office before he throws STEM workers under the bus this time.

I am sick to death of that bullshit and as Trump has changed his mind about truly enforcing the laws as they are meant to be enforced, by going along with the idea that there is some kind of STEM shortage, well guess what? FUCK HIM and I will work to get someone else elected instead.

When will we EVER find a candidate that will stop selling American workers short and DEFEND them instead?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Donald Trump has been telling everyone for months now that he wants to curtail the abuse of the H1-B visa system as has Ted Cruz. Tonight during the debate Trump said he has changed his mind and now he is OK with expanding H1-B visas.

Well, first of all, we need to work the H1-B program so that we allow them to come here and work, but not allow them to supplant Americans from their existing jobs. We'll say "We're sorry, but that job is taken. Go look for a job like everyone else. You don't get preferential treatment."

Then companies will fire one employee a month and replace that "empty" position with an H1-B.

Well then such a practice should be rendered illegal. A business can't just arbitrarily fire someone just to meet a quota the government imposes on businesses. I think that would qualify as employment discrimination.

"At Will" Employment.
I have discussed this with attorneys and companies CAN fire an employee for the flimsiest of reasons.
The onus is on the fired employee to prove some sort of discrimination or conspiracy.

Like I said. Make a law that requires business to prove a viable, justifiable reason for arbitrarily firing an employee.

"Because I wanted to" should not be a sufficient answer.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Companies DO hire who they want for as cheap as possible.

So, end the H1-B program altogether then. Ban businesses from hiring illegal immigrants and actually enforce the E-Verify program. Place strict (but reasonable) limitations on government welfare programs. Make the choice for them. They have a pool of legal American citizens out there to choose from.

By reworking the welfare programs and giving it to people who really need it, and telling those who are physically and mentally capable of handling a job to go get one, businesses will be given more incentive to hire Americans and not replace them with foreigners.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Well, from outside, I think if Ted Cruz gets nomination, then Hillary gets elected President.

I've been reading about Cruz and it's said that he's not that liked as a person. Also the way he looks, he's a bit creepy looking.

That the GOP establishment hates Cruz is a good thing. He's a constitutionalist and that galls the GOP; the GOP and Dems have become nearly indistinguishable on many issues. Cruz is smart, stands his ground, is the least 'bought' pol running ... of course the meme is 'he can't win!'.

Creepy looking? He face isn't very symmetrical, the outside corners of his eyes point down, his nose is a bit TinMan-ish ... and? Since when is being good looking a pre-req for being potus? obama is goofy looking with his big-assed ears and fly-attracking face mole, hillary looks like something the cat dragged in. And? Who cares? Their policies, their ideology, what they want/are going to do is what matters.

They must want movie star quality. Some people think Obama is a specimen to look at.....

"They must want movie star quality."

What a foolish statement.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Donald Trump has been telling everyone for months now that he wants to curtail the abuse of the H1-B visa system as has Ted Cruz. Tonight during the debate Trump said he has changed his mind and now he is OK with expanding H1-B visas.

Well, first of all, we need to work the H1-B program so that we allow them to come here and work, but not allow them to supplant Americans from their existing jobs. We'll say "We're sorry, but that job is taken. Go look for a job like everyone else. You don't get preferential treatment."

Then companies will fire one employee a month and replace that "empty" position with an H1-B.

Well then such a practice should be rendered illegal. A business can't just arbitrarily fire someone just to meet a quota the government imposes on businesses. I think that would qualify as employment discrimination.

"At Will" Employment.
I have discussed this with attorneys and companies CAN fire an employee for the flimsiest of reasons.
The onus is on the fired employee to prove some sort of discrimination or conspiracy.

Like I said. Make a law that requires business to prove a viable, justifiable reason for arbitrarily firing an employee.

"Because I wanted to" should not be a sufficient answer.

Templar, I am pretty sure that is ALREADY the law.

The problem is no one is enforcing it.

 

[RodISHI]

Donald Trump has been telling everyone for months now that he wants to curtail the abuse of the H1-B visa system as has Ted Cruz. Tonight during the debate Trump said he has changed his mind and now he is OK with expanding H1-B visas.

Well, first of all, we need to work the H1-B program so that we allow them to come here and work, but not allow them to supplant Americans from their existing jobs. We'll say "We're sorry, but that job is taken. Go look for a job like everyone else. You don't get preferential treatment."

Then companies will fire one employee a month and replace that "empty" position with an H1-B.

Well then such a practice should be rendered illegal. A business can't just arbitrarily fire someone just to meet a quota the government imposes on businesses. I think that would qualify as employment discrimination.

"At Will" Employment.
I have discussed this with attorneys and companies CAN fire an employee for the flimsiest of reasons.
The onus is on the fired employee to prove some sort of discrimination or conspiracy.

I rarely fired people. It was a part of the job I hated so they had to be hopeless or just totally off before I would just say that's it. What we have created with all these giants though is a purely profit driven society but now the society is falling apart due to the incompetence, fraud, waste and abuse. It is at all levels but actually when you look at the whole it took the whole to get it to this point.

Well, from outside, I think if Ted Cruz gets nomination, then Hillary gets elected President.

I've been reading about Cruz and it's said that he's not that liked as a person. Also the way he looks, he's a bit creepy looking.

That the GOP establishment hates Cruz is a good thing. He's a constitutionalist and that galls the GOP; the GOP and Dems have become nearly indistinguishable on many issues. Cruz is smart, stands his ground, is the least 'bought' pol running ... of course the meme is 'he can't win!'.

Creepy looking? He face isn't very symmetrical, the outside corners of his eyes point down, his nose is a bit TinMan-ish ... and? Since when is being good looking a pre-req for being potus? obama is goofy looking with his big-assed ears and fly-attracking face mole, hillary looks like something the cat dragged in. And? Who cares? Their policies, their ideology, what they want/are going to do is what matters.

They must want movie star quality. Some people think Obama is a specimen to look at.....

"They must want movie star quality."

What a foolish statement.

No its true. Sorry Lucy but that is the way politics has been running. The TV, DVD, generation looks for someone that looks good more than just the qualifications of the individual. Its like looking at a book thinking the cover reflects what is inside. Politics has been entertainment and salesmanship for a long time now.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Well, from outside, I think if Ted Cruz gets nomination, then Hillary gets elected President.

I've been reading about Cruz and it's said that he's not that liked as a person. Also the way he looks, he's a bit creepy looking.

I dont care about how he looks.

I just know when I wake up tomorrow, Cruz will not have changed his mind suddenly on a key issue.

I'm hearing they ALL ganged-up on The Donald, so a group of bullies ganged-up on him, this post-Mitt Romney getting into gutter to make exceptionally nasty, ugly and bitchy comments about The Donald.

Although on outside, I could never support gang-bangers.

To me re. Cruz looks, I wouldn't buy a used car off him, he looks like snail oil salesman....how can you be 100% certain Cruz isn't saying things to get votes, how can you be 100% certain he won't suddenly change his mind?