OMG! Obama leading from behind -----> and winning!

[SassyIrishLass]

Was reading that 300 ISIS held Ramadi vs 10,000 Iraqis.

"After seven months of intense and constant fighting, all that remains in the newly 'liberated' city of Ramadi is rubble strewn streets, decimated buildings (right) and burned out vehicles (bottom left). It took 10,000 Iraqi troops, backed by US-led airstrikes, six days to wrestle the city from just 300 fanatics.

They corned the extremists in a single government complex but the shooting stopped at 8am this morning, said an Iraqi Brigadier General, who added they were either killed or had escaped. For the first time since May, Iraqi troops (top left) were able to walk and drive through town without the threat of an ISIS sniper or rocket launcher hanging over them. A senior Iraqi official hailed it as a 'great victory' and said it should be used as a launchpad to also retake the Nineveh governate.

The northern governate is home to the ISIS stronghold of Mosul, from where ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was filmed making a rare public statement last year.

10,000 against 300 and it took seven months? WTF?

 

[The Great Goose]

Obama likes it from behind.

 

[mamooth]

Obama seems to be a student of Sun Tzu.

---
Thus the highest form of generalship is to balk the enemy's plans;
the next best is to prevent the junction of the enemy's forces;
the next in order is to attack the enemy's army in the field;
and the worst policy of all is to besiege walled cities.
---

Blasting ISIS with overwhelming firepower doesn't get a victory. It doesn't destroy the idea or create a local force that can stop ISIS. The collateral damage would create another generation that hates the USA. Thus, a new similar group would simply reform again after the US left. That's why ISIS wants the US to fight them so badly. It gives backing to their claims of religious justification.

What Obama did is create the coalition ("Prevent the junction") against ISIS, drying up their support.

Now he's getting other muslims beat ISIS, which removes their religious legitimacy (balking their plans). That is, it kills the idea.

The lesson, of course, is that all conservatives are completely incompetent in all military matters, and thus should never be entrusted with any kind of power. As the past has shown, conservatives are always staggeringly clueless concerning big-picture strategy. It's good to have the grownups in charge.

(Conservatives, this is where you now cry at me. Loudly. Please proceed. We know why you're crying. Your pals ISIS are losing, so you're losing political power.)

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Obama seems to be a student of Sun Tzu.

BAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH That might be the funniest thing I've ever read on this forum

 

[dilloduck]

Obama seems to be a student of Sun Tzu.

BAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH That might be the funniest thing I've ever read on this forum

YA think that might be a stretch ? I didn't even know Gen Obama was calling the shots for the Iraqis. Isn't Iran handling it ?

 

[whitehall]

It's no secret that Barry Hussein undermined George Bush's victory in Iraq and abandoned both the people and the mission shortly upon taking office. When enough Americans and coalition troops were killed and the left was satisfied that Bush's victory was vilified the liberal machine went work and finally supported the Iraq government's efforts. Eight years after taking office the corrupt administration takes credit after American bodies were shipped home in body bags.

 

[rdean]

Why do they attack me when I post the truth?

Which website do you post the truth on ?

This one. All the time. That's why they attack me and not the facts.

 

[rdean]

Why do they attack me when I post the truth?

you are just a complete fuckin moron, derp.
That dumbfuck has been lying to us about IS for years. Not to mention arming them. And then some dumbfuck (you) come around and say some dumb shit like the OP.
Lets be REAL

OK, what are some of the lies? Be specific.

 

[westwall]

Iraqi army declares first major victory over Islamic State in Ramadi

Iraq's army declared victory over Islamic State fighters in a provincial capital west of Baghdad on Sunday, the first major triumph for the U.S.-trained force since it collapsed in the face of an assault by the militants 18 months ago.

Television also showed nighttime celebrations in mainly Shi'ite cities south of Baghdad for the victory in Anbar, with people dancing in the streets and waving Iraqi flags from cars.

A U.S.-led coalition is waging an air campaign against Islamic State, but rebuilding the Iraqi army to the point that it could recapture and hold territory has been one of the biggest challenges.

Ramadi was the first major city recaptured by the army itself, without relying on the militias, who were kept off the battlefield to avoid sectarian tension with the mainly Sunni population.

-----------------------------

What this shows us is how Republicans fucked up the entire country when they disbanded the mostly Sunni Iraq military. Isis knew the area since many of their top commanders were from the Iraq military that the GOP chased away. Suddenly, after Republicans threw their jobs away, these well trained soldiers had no way to take care of their families. Ha, families. Why would Republicans care about families there when they don't care about families here?

You can't divide up a country, light the match to spark a civil war and expect it to just go away. Look at how long our civil war took.

Seems Obama was right to leave advisers. Obama was right to build a coalition. After Republican divided the county, that one, but they divide this one too, obviously. By disbanding the Iraq military, Republicans divided the country and turned the two halves on each other. If we followed Linda Grahame and John McCain and sent in troops, we would be fighting Iraq, Iran and Isis. This is why it's so important to keep Republicans away from our foreign policy.
Ever notice Republicans don't really build anything? Not since the Interstate Highway system and NASA more than half a century ago.

Took a long time to even begin climbing out the odious mess the GOP left in Iraq, but hopefully, Obama will keep leading from behind.

What's funny is any moron could tell that this is pure propaganda. So what does that make you? What's less smart than a moron?

 

[rdean]

It's no secret that Barry Hussein undermined George Bush's victory in Iraq and abandoned both the people and the mission shortly upon taking office. When enough Americans and coalition troops were killed and the left was satisfied that Bush's victory was vilified the liberal machine went work and finally supported the Iraq government's efforts. Eight years after taking office the corrupt administration takes credit after American bodies were shipped home in body bags.

How do you get so much ignorant bullshit in one small paragraph. All I can guess is that it's satire. What else could it be. Say the word and I'll tear that ignorant statement apart the way so many others have on the USMB again and again. It's only that dern "determined ignorance" that keeps you from the truth. Or else it's satire, then, good job.

 

[Camp]

Why do they attack me when I post the truth?

It is the Obama derangement syndrome. They will disparage the American military for a job well done rather than allow even a small amount of credit go to Obama.

 

[rdean]

Iraqi army declares first major victory over Islamic State in Ramadi

Iraq's army declared victory over Islamic State fighters in a provincial capital west of Baghdad on Sunday, the first major triumph for the U.S.-trained force since it collapsed in the face of an assault by the militants 18 months ago.

Television also showed nighttime celebrations in mainly Shi'ite cities south of Baghdad for the victory in Anbar, with people dancing in the streets and waving Iraqi flags from cars.

A U.S.-led coalition is waging an air campaign against Islamic State, but rebuilding the Iraqi army to the point that it could recapture and hold territory has been one of the biggest challenges.

Ramadi was the first major city recaptured by the army itself, without relying on the militias, who were kept off the battlefield to avoid sectarian tension with the mainly Sunni population.

-----------------------------

What this shows us is how Republicans fucked up the entire country when they disbanded the mostly Sunni Iraq military. Isis knew the area since many of their top commanders were from the Iraq military that the GOP chased away. Suddenly, after Republicans threw their jobs away, these well trained soldiers had no way to take care of their families. Ha, families. Why would Republicans care about families there when they don't care about families here?

You can't divide up a country, light the match to spark a civil war and expect it to just go away. Look at how long our civil war took.

Seems Obama was right to leave advisers. Obama was right to build a coalition. After Republican divided the county, that one, but they divide this one too, obviously. By disbanding the Iraq military, Republicans divided the country and turned the two halves on each other. If we followed Linda Grahame and John McCain and sent in troops, we would be fighting Iraq, Iran and Isis. This is why it's so important to keep Republicans away from our foreign policy.
Ever notice Republicans don't really build anything? Not since the Interstate Highway system and NASA more than half a century ago.

Took a long time to even begin climbing out the odious mess the GOP left in Iraq, but hopefully, Obama will keep leading from behind.

Yes, because Syria and Libya are GWB fault also right?

"If we followed Linda Grahame"

OMG we know of the rumours about Senator Grahame, but this is the first I've heard that he/she has now actually Transgendered!

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Yes, because Syria and Libya are GWB fault also right?

No, of course not. It was GWB AND the GOP that destabilized the Middle East. GWB didn't do it by himself.

 

[rdean]

Was reading that 300 ISIS held Ramadi vs 10,000 Iraqis.

"After seven months of intense and constant fighting, all that remains in the newly 'liberated' city of Ramadi is rubble strewn streets, decimated buildings (right) and burned out vehicles (bottom left). It took 10,000 Iraqi troops, backed by US-led airstrikes, six days to wrestle the city from just 300 fanatics.

They corned the extremists in a single government complex but the shooting stopped at 8am this morning, said an Iraqi Brigadier General, who added they were either killed or had escaped. For the first time since May, Iraqi troops (top left) were able to walk and drive through town without the threat of an ISIS sniper or rocket launcher hanging over them. A senior Iraqi official hailed it as a 'great victory' and said it should be used as a launchpad to also retake the Nineveh governate.

The northern governate is home to the ISIS stronghold of Mosul, from where ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was filmed making a rare public statement last year.

10,000 against 300 and it took seven months? WTF?

That's how poorly Republicans trained the Iraq military. Then Obama had to leave based on the agreement Bush signed. Republicans fail at everything. They would do lots better if they didn't hate education and research.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Iraqi army declares first major victory over Islamic State in Ramadi

Iraq's army declared victory over Islamic State fighters in a provincial capital west of Baghdad on Sunday, the first major triumph for the U.S.-trained force since it collapsed in the face of an assault by the militants 18 months ago.

Television also showed nighttime celebrations in mainly Shi'ite cities south of Baghdad for the victory in Anbar, with people dancing in the streets and waving Iraqi flags from cars.

A U.S.-led coalition is waging an air campaign against Islamic State, but rebuilding the Iraqi army to the point that it could recapture and hold territory has been one of the biggest challenges.

Ramadi was the first major city recaptured by the army itself, without relying on the militias, who were kept off the battlefield to avoid sectarian tension with the mainly Sunni population.

-----------------------------

What this shows us is how Republicans fucked up the entire country when they disbanded the mostly Sunni Iraq military. Isis knew the area since many of their top commanders were from the Iraq military that the GOP chased away. Suddenly, after Republicans threw their jobs away, these well trained soldiers had no way to take care of their families. Ha, families. Why would Republicans care about families there when they don't care about families here?

You can't divide up a country, light the match to spark a civil war and expect it to just go away. Look at how long our civil war took.

Seems Obama was right to leave advisers. Obama was right to build a coalition. After Republican divided the county, that one, but they divide this one too, obviously. By disbanding the Iraq military, Republicans divided the country and turned the two halves on each other. If we followed Linda Grahame and John McCain and sent in troops, we would be fighting Iraq, Iran and Isis. This is why it's so important to keep Republicans away from our foreign policy.
Ever notice Republicans don't really build anything? Not since the Interstate Highway system and NASA more than half a century ago.

Took a long time to even begin climbing out the odious mess the GOP left in Iraq, but hopefully, Obama will keep leading from behind.

 

[rdean]

Iraqi army declares first major victory over Islamic State in Ramadi

Iraq's army declared victory over Islamic State fighters in a provincial capital west of Baghdad on Sunday, the first major triumph for the U.S.-trained force since it collapsed in the face of an assault by the militants 18 months ago.

Television also showed nighttime celebrations in mainly Shi'ite cities south of Baghdad for the victory in Anbar, with people dancing in the streets and waving Iraqi flags from cars.

A U.S.-led coalition is waging an air campaign against Islamic State, but rebuilding the Iraqi army to the point that it could recapture and hold territory has been one of the biggest challenges.

Ramadi was the first major city recaptured by the army itself, without relying on the militias, who were kept off the battlefield to avoid sectarian tension with the mainly Sunni population.

-----------------------------

What this shows us is how Republicans fucked up the entire country when they disbanded the mostly Sunni Iraq military. Isis knew the area since many of their top commanders were from the Iraq military that the GOP chased away. Suddenly, after Republicans threw their jobs away, these well trained soldiers had no way to take care of their families. Ha, families. Why would Republicans care about families there when they don't care about families here?

You can't divide up a country, light the match to spark a civil war and expect it to just go away. Look at how long our civil war took.

Seems Obama was right to leave advisers. Obama was right to build a coalition. After Republican divided the county, that one, but they divide this one too, obviously. By disbanding the Iraq military, Republicans divided the country and turned the two halves on each other. If we followed Linda Grahame and John McCain and sent in troops, we would be fighting Iraq, Iran and Isis. This is why it's so important to keep Republicans away from our foreign policy.
Ever notice Republicans don't really build anything? Not since the Interstate Highway system and NASA more than half a century ago.

Took a long time to even begin climbing out the odious mess the GOP left in Iraq, but hopefully, Obama will keep leading from behind.

How exactly did you know the riots in Libya had nothing to do with the deadly riots going on all over the Arab world sparked by that video? Where are your sources? Are you Libyan or al Qaeda? How could you know?

 

[Roudy]

Iraqi army declares first major victory over Islamic State in Ramadi

Iraq's army declared victory over Islamic State fighters in a provincial capital west of Baghdad on Sunday, the first major triumph for the U.S.-trained force since it collapsed in the face of an assault by the militants 18 months ago.

Television also showed nighttime celebrations in mainly Shi'ite cities south of Baghdad for the victory in Anbar, with people dancing in the streets and waving Iraqi flags from cars.

A U.S.-led coalition is waging an air campaign against Islamic State, but rebuilding the Iraqi army to the point that it could recapture and hold territory has been one of the biggest challenges.

Ramadi was the first major city recaptured by the army itself, without relying on the militias, who were kept off the battlefield to avoid sectarian tension with the mainly Sunni population.

-----------------------------

What this shows us is how Republicans fucked up the entire country when they disbanded the mostly Sunni Iraq military. Isis knew the area since many of their top commanders were from the Iraq military that the GOP chased away. Suddenly, after Republicans threw their jobs away, these well trained soldiers had no way to take care of their families. Ha, families. Why would Republicans care about families there when they don't care about families here?

You can't divide up a country, light the match to spark a civil war and expect it to just go away. Look at how long our civil war took.

Seems Obama was right to leave advisers. Obama was right to build a coalition. After Republican divided the county, that one, but they divide this one too, obviously. By disbanding the Iraq military, Republicans divided the country and turned the two halves on each other. If we followed Linda Grahame and John McCain and sent in troops, we would be fighting Iraq, Iran and Isis. This is why it's so important to keep Republicans away from our foreign policy.
Ever notice Republicans don't really build anything? Not since the Interstate Highway system and NASA more than half a century ago.

Took a long time to even begin climbing out the odious mess the GOP left in Iraq, but hopefully, Obama will keep leading from behind.

Obama inside your behind?! TMI! TMI!

 

[rdean]

Iraqi army declares first major victory over Islamic State in Ramadi

Iraq's army declared victory over Islamic State fighters in a provincial capital west of Baghdad on Sunday, the first major triumph for the U.S.-trained force since it collapsed in the face of an assault by the militants 18 months ago.

Television also showed nighttime celebrations in mainly Shi'ite cities south of Baghdad for the victory in Anbar, with people dancing in the streets and waving Iraqi flags from cars.

A U.S.-led coalition is waging an air campaign against Islamic State, but rebuilding the Iraqi army to the point that it could recapture and hold territory has been one of the biggest challenges.

Ramadi was the first major city recaptured by the army itself, without relying on the militias, who were kept off the battlefield to avoid sectarian tension with the mainly Sunni population.

-----------------------------

What this shows us is how Republicans fucked up the entire country when they disbanded the mostly Sunni Iraq military. Isis knew the area since many of their top commanders were from the Iraq military that the GOP chased away. Suddenly, after Republicans threw their jobs away, these well trained soldiers had no way to take care of their families. Ha, families. Why would Republicans care about families there when they don't care about families here?

You can't divide up a country, light the match to spark a civil war and expect it to just go away. Look at how long our civil war took.

Seems Obama was right to leave advisers. Obama was right to build a coalition. After Republican divided the county, that one, but they divide this one too, obviously. By disbanding the Iraq military, Republicans divided the country and turned the two halves on each other. If we followed Linda Grahame and John McCain and sent in troops, we would be fighting Iraq, Iran and Isis. This is why it's so important to keep Republicans away from our foreign policy.
Ever notice Republicans don't really build anything? Not since the Interstate Highway system and NASA more than half a century ago.

Took a long time to even begin climbing out the odious mess the GOP left in Iraq, but hopefully, Obama will keep leading from behind.

Obama inside your behind?! TMI! TMI!

sick

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Iraqi army declares first major victory over Islamic State in Ramadi

Iraq's army declared victory over Islamic State fighters in a provincial capital west of Baghdad on Sunday, the first major triumph for the U.S.-trained force since it collapsed in the face of an assault by the militants 18 months ago.

Television also showed nighttime celebrations in mainly Shi'ite cities south of Baghdad for the victory in Anbar, with people dancing in the streets and waving Iraqi flags from cars.

A U.S.-led coalition is waging an air campaign against Islamic State, but rebuilding the Iraqi army to the point that it could recapture and hold territory has been one of the biggest challenges.

Ramadi was the first major city recaptured by the army itself, without relying on the militias, who were kept off the battlefield to avoid sectarian tension with the mainly Sunni population.

-----------------------------

What this shows us is how Republicans fucked up the entire country when they disbanded the mostly Sunni Iraq military. Isis knew the area since many of their top commanders were from the Iraq military that the GOP chased away. Suddenly, after Republicans threw their jobs away, these well trained soldiers had no way to take care of their families. Ha, families. Why would Republicans care about families there when they don't care about families here?

You can't divide up a country, light the match to spark a civil war and expect it to just go away. Look at how long our civil war took.

Seems Obama was right to leave advisers. Obama was right to build a coalition. After Republican divided the county, that one, but they divide this one too, obviously. By disbanding the Iraq military, Republicans divided the country and turned the two halves on each other. If we followed Linda Grahame and John McCain and sent in troops, we would be fighting Iraq, Iran and Isis. This is why it's so important to keep Republicans away from our foreign policy.
Ever notice Republicans don't really build anything? Not since the Interstate Highway system and NASA more than half a century ago.

Took a long time to even begin climbing out the odious mess the GOP left in Iraq, but hopefully, Obama will keep leading from behind.

How exactly did you know the riots in Libya had nothing to do with the deadly riots going on all over the Arab world sparked by that video? Where are your sources? Are you Libyan or al Qaeda? How could you know?

My source? Straight from the horse's mouth, "“We know that the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film. It was a planned attack—not a protest"- Hillary Clinton helping Obama cover up a terrorist attack at Benghazi

 

[rdean]

Iraqi army declares first major victory over Islamic State in Ramadi

Iraq's army declared victory over Islamic State fighters in a provincial capital west of Baghdad on Sunday, the first major triumph for the U.S.-trained force since it collapsed in the face of an assault by the militants 18 months ago.

Television also showed nighttime celebrations in mainly Shi'ite cities south of Baghdad for the victory in Anbar, with people dancing in the streets and waving Iraqi flags from cars.

A U.S.-led coalition is waging an air campaign against Islamic State, but rebuilding the Iraqi army to the point that it could recapture and hold territory has been one of the biggest challenges.

Ramadi was the first major city recaptured by the army itself, without relying on the militias, who were kept off the battlefield to avoid sectarian tension with the mainly Sunni population.

-----------------------------

What this shows us is how Republicans fucked up the entire country when they disbanded the mostly Sunni Iraq military. Isis knew the area since many of their top commanders were from the Iraq military that the GOP chased away. Suddenly, after Republicans threw their jobs away, these well trained soldiers had no way to take care of their families. Ha, families. Why would Republicans care about families there when they don't care about families here?

You can't divide up a country, light the match to spark a civil war and expect it to just go away. Look at how long our civil war took.

Seems Obama was right to leave advisers. Obama was right to build a coalition. After Republican divided the county, that one, but they divide this one too, obviously. By disbanding the Iraq military, Republicans divided the country and turned the two halves on each other. If we followed Linda Grahame and John McCain and sent in troops, we would be fighting Iraq, Iran and Isis. This is why it's so important to keep Republicans away from our foreign policy.
Ever notice Republicans don't really build anything? Not since the Interstate Highway system and NASA more than half a century ago.

Took a long time to even begin climbing out the odious mess the GOP left in Iraq, but hopefully, Obama will keep leading from behind.

How exactly did you know the riots in Libya had nothing to do with the deadly riots going on all over the Arab world sparked by that video? Where are your sources? Are you Libyan or al Qaeda? How could you know?

My source? Straight from the horse's mouth, "“We know that the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film. It was a planned attack—not a protest"- Hillary Clinton helping Obama cover up a terrorist attack at Benghazi

Eventually they believed that. But not at first. You know that. Everyone knows it. And, some still aren't convinced.

You do know there were deadly riots going on all over the Arab world at exactly the same time as what was going on in Benghazi? Right? You know that? Or do you?

In fact, what does that even mean? Hillary helping Obama? Helping what? Dozens more died at US embassies under Bush, so how come he didn't need help?

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

To be fair Urban combat is some of the nastiest type of fighting there is and unless your willing to flatten an entire city it ends up being building to building to root out the enemy.