Oligarchy Tour and old hippies.

[Raynine]

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Neil Young and Joan Baez have joined the “Oligarchy Tour”. It is a national protest against the Department of Government Efficiency, DOGE, where massive government fraud is being exposed. Billions are being hidden in NGO’s, non-government organizations, to finance leftist wokeism and those funds are now under threat. When I listen to old songs of Young or Baez sometimes I am transported back to the days when hair was long, and a bath was a can kicked down the road for a future event. My motorcycle and rock festivals figured prominently in those days and politics was for older folks.

I liked Young and Baez and their songs, and though those songs were from another time, they are from our time as well. When Stephen Stills was with young in the Buffalo Springfield he wrote “For what it’s Worth”. Oddly, that song had nothing to do with the Vietnam War, it was about authority and sides in a protest. The song was, however, weirdly prophetic in predicting Young’s Kent State anthem, “Four dead in Ohio”, just a few years later which was about the war. Kids today have no idea what happened at Kent State when walking in front of a bullet was the natural order of hair-trigger crowd control. The government had guns in 1970 just like it had the gun that took out Ashley Babbit in 2021.

The coin of public opinion gets flipped with the arrow of time, but the authorities still have guns. There will always be citizens in free societies that don’t like pompous authorities that think they are right telling them what to do. There is a line in that song by Stills- “nobody’s right if everybody’s wrong”. That is a powerful line. When the authorities think they are right they will use guns to “keep order” and some will die. Neil and Joan never understood what they were really singing about because neither stood for Babbit. I will always like Neil and Joan for their music and the time they shined in my memories. But now they just look like a couple of old curmudgeons with guitars telling me to get off their lawn.

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[Moonglow]

Innocent people being deported is not saving us a dime. The corruption is Trump as he violates the rights of citizens and the Constituion in his zeal to be a dickhead making dick moves.

 

[Darkwind]

No innocents are being deported, no matter how much the media lies about it.

 

[okfine]

No innocents are being deported, no matter how much the media lies about it.

 

[pknopp]

I have noted many times there was zero reasons for the officer to have shot Babbit and while you do still condemn unnecessary killing by the state regardless of the situation (Koresh being another example) the scenario's are still different.

Kent State was over a needless war getting young kids needlessly killed while 1/6 was over fools listening to the lies of an orange baffoon.

I still condemn the violence that led to her death but really, how can one be that gullible?

 

[pknopp]

No innocents are being deported, no matter how much the media lies about it.

Having an opinion that differs from the governments does not make one guilty of anything. You can find the opinion wrong, maybe even gullible but it does not make one guilty of anything as far as the government is concerned.

 

[kyzr]

Innocent people being deported is not saving us a dime. The corruption is Trump as he violates the rights of citizens and the Constitution in his zeal to be a dickhead making dick moves.

Really? So what do you think about when democrat presidents deport "innocent people"?

Yes, Obama deported more people than Trump but context is everything

President Donald Trump wants to deport a lot of people this weekend. "You know what? They came in illegally. They have to go out," he told reporters Friday as he confirmed that planned immigration raids would go ahead in certain cities starting this weekend.

www.cnn.com

Clinton deported 12,000,000
Bush deported 10,000,000
Obama deported 7,000,000
Trump-45 deported 2,000,000
Biden let 12,000,000 INTO the US
Trump-47 will deport _________________

 

[Darkwind]

Having an opinion that differs from the governments does not make one guilty of anything. You can find the opinion wrong, maybe even gullible but it does not make one guilty of anything as far as the government is concerned.

Yet, it is not JUST a difference of opinion. They are outright manipulating information in favor of Democrats while telling lies about innocent people being put in prison in a foreign country.

 

[pknopp]

Really? So what do you think about when democrat presidents deport "innocent people"?

Obama killed an American citizen while ignoring their due process. I condemned that many times. To me if there was ever an impeachable offense, that was it.

Democrats? No, they were silent. I condemned it.

 

[Moonglow]

Really? So what do you think about when democrat presidents deport "innocent people"?

Yes, Obama deported more people than Trump but context is everything

President Donald Trump wants to deport a lot of people this weekend. "You know what? They came in illegally. They have to go out," he told reporters Friday as he confirmed that planned immigration raids would go ahead in certain cities starting this weekend.

www.cnn.com

Clinton deported 12,000,000
Bush deported 10,000,000
Obama deported 7,000,000
Trump-45 deported 2,000,000
Biden let 12,000,000 INTO the US
Trump-47 will deport _________________

Were they citizens, I think not.

 

[pknopp]

Yet, it is not JUST a difference of opinion. They are outright manipulating information in favor of Democrats while telling lies about innocent people being put in prison in a foreign country.

The simple undisputable fact is that we have no idea who is being deported because there is NO due process. Legitimate reasons or not, without due process it is WRONG!!

 

[kyzr]

Were they citizens, I think not.

Neither are the illegals that Trump is deporting.

 

[Darkwind]

The simple undisputable fact is that we have no idea who is being deported because there is NO due process. Legitimate reasons or not, without due process it is WRONG!!

Have you in the past disagreed with the SCOTUS? It isn't not a distracting question but a direct answer to your statement.

The authorities who have deported these people DO know who they are deporting. In My opinion, the courts are wrong giving any kind of rights or due process to invaders and noncitizens.

If you have no right to be in this country, you have no rights in this country.

Full stop.

I fully support the deportation of foreign terrorists from our soil and I'd support the government killing them if they put up a fight in a gun battle.

 

[pknopp]

Neither are the illegals that Trump is deporting.

Some of those he is rounding up are here legally.

 

[pknopp]

Have you in the past disagreed with the SCOTUS? It isn't not a distracting question but a direct answer to your statement.

Yes.

But I understood their ruling stands.

The authorities who have deported these people DO know who they are deporting. In My opinion, the courts are wrong giving any kind of rights or due process to invaders and noncitizens.

And yet the other day they had to say "oops".

Every single person in this country is due, due process. Without it we have no idea their actual standing. You seem to be willing to accept the governments word as long as the one in power is one you support. A horrible position to hold.

If you have no right to be in this country, you have no rights in this country.

That's wrong.

Full stop.

I fully support the deportation of foreign terrorists from our soil and I'd support the government killing them if they put up a fight in a gun battle.

LOL, another internet tough guy. Dismissed.

 

[1srelluc]

Neil Young net worth....200M....My, my hey, hey.

Joan is "poor" at around 8 million.

 

[Moonglow]

Neither are the illegals that Trump is deporting.

Evidently you have missed the news lately and the battle in a federal court over such an event, but, I understand you want Trump to shine even in shit.

 

[Darkwind]

Yes.

But I understood their ruling stands.




And yet the other day they had to say "oops".

Every single person in this country is due, due process. Without it we have no idea their actual standing. You seem to be willing to accept the governments word as long as the one in power is one you support. A horrible position to hold.




That's wrong.



LOL, another internet tough guy. Dismissed.

I'm not sure what you are failing to understand.

Every CITIZEN is allowed due process.

I DO NOT CARE ABOUT NONCITIZENS.

I support what it's happening and will continue to vote for this.

What is wrong is allowing murderers, child rapists, necrophialcs, and terrorists to continue to reside anywhere inside the United States.

I don't care about your notion of right or wrong.

 

[pknopp]

I'm not sure what you are failing to understand.

Every CITIZEN is allowed due process.

I DO NOT CARE ABOUT NONCITIZENS.

I support what it's happening and will continue to vote for this.

What is wrong is allowing murderers, child rapists, necrophialcs, and terrorists to continue to reside anywhere inside the United States.

I don't care about your notion of right or wrong.

Whether you care or not is not relative. It means nothing.

 

[Sunni Man]

Innocent people being deported is not saving us a dime. The corruption is Trump as he violates the rights of citizens and the Constituion.

Get a grip.
Trump's DOJ isn't deporting American citizens.