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Well then do your part.Herd immunity is way cheaper.
Get out there and catch that virus!
Then be sure to bring it home to your friends and family!
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Well then do your part.Herd immunity is way cheaper.
It's a bit more complicated than that. For real sanitation the terms need to be exposed for more than the split second it takes to run through the small device. A real air sanitizer will have a tunnel with a number of lights.Old Technology could breath new life into Restaurants and other close contact businesses...
In a Duh moment several of my colleagues and I may have just come up with a plan to allow close contact businesses to function safely.
Hospitals use what is called a negative pressure room for patients who have infectious diseases. These operate on specific air flow patterns, controlled humidity, and UV lights which the air is pulled through to kill any virus.
Several Companies manufacture UV lights to be used above head high with slow updraft fans to kill the viruses in the air. They run about $175.00 and two can cover a room that is 100' X 30'. A series of these lights and fans in any restaurant could effectively capture and kill viruses that are airborne. These lights can also be fitted with covers that open automatically to the floor and seating areas every hour to kill surface viruses if the narrow band UV bulb is used.
Narrow band UV bulbs are safe for human exposure if it is monitored and intermittent.
We can add to this structured air flows so that air is drawn downward at walls and floor level around the room. This would pull the viruses downward to the floor where the air handler can push them out above the lights after filtration. You could also incorporate a High Output Light chamber (these are kind of pricey) to disinfect the air rapidly as it passes through the chamber. These were used in TB segregation wards so that the staff was not breathing the same air as the patients.
The technology is out there to bring America back on line quickly. The simple light and circulation fans can be installed in a day.
36W UV Surface Disinfection Unit with Deflector Shield for Biotech/Cle
Perfect for sterilizing work stations At this point to the best of our knowledge, all Lumalier products have an 8-10 week lead time. The 36W UV surface disinfection unit is designed for small area UV disinfection, such as individual work stations, fume hoods or lab tables. Ideal for use in...www.cureuv.com
Probably already had it.Well then do your part.Herd immunity is way cheaper.
Get out there and catch that virus!
Then be sure to bring it home to your friends and family!
The polio epidemic was actually caused by living too cleanly. It began among the wealthy who tended to bottle feed rather than breast feed their infants so they missed getting the immunity to many diseases passed on to the infant via the mother's breast milk.EUV shorter than 100nm burns skin for a reason. I for one don't want to live in a laboratory all my life. You are talking about a major investment for a business to do all of that. Worse, living in a sterile environment actually LOWERS your resistance and immunity making you more susceptible and dependent within that environment!Old Technology could breath new life into Restaurants and other close contact businesses...
Narrow band UV bulbs are safe for human exposure if it is monitored and intermittent.
Exactly what you want is an extended kill zone giving an extended dwell time. If the duration is too short to effect a complete kill all your likely to do is build up a resistant stain of whatever it is you're trying to kill off.It's a bit more complicated than that. For real sanitation the terms need to be exposed for more than the split second it takes to run through the small device. A real air sanitizer will have a tunnel with a number of lights.Old Technology could breath new life into Restaurants and other close contact businesses...
In a Duh moment several of my colleagues and I may have just come up with a plan to allow close contact businesses to function safely.
Hospitals use what is called a negative pressure room for patients who have infectious diseases. These operate on specific air flow patterns, controlled humidity, and UV lights which the air is pulled through to kill any virus.
Several Companies manufacture UV lights to be used above head high with slow updraft fans to kill the viruses in the air. They run about $175.00 and two can cover a room that is 100' X 30'. A series of these lights and fans in any restaurant could effectively capture and kill viruses that are airborne. These lights can also be fitted with covers that open automatically to the floor and seating areas every hour to kill surface viruses if the narrow band UV bulb is used.
Narrow band UV bulbs are safe for human exposure if it is monitored and intermittent.
We can add to this structured air flows so that air is drawn downward at walls and floor level around the room. This would pull the viruses downward to the floor where the air handler can push them out above the lights after filtration. You could also incorporate a High Output Light chamber (these are kind of pricey) to disinfect the air rapidly as it passes through the chamber. These were used in TB segregation wards so that the staff was not breathing the same air as the patients.
The technology is out there to bring America back on line quickly. The simple light and circulation fans can be installed in a day.
36W UV Surface Disinfection Unit with Deflector Shield for Biotech/Cle
Perfect for sterilizing work stations At this point to the best of our knowledge, all Lumalier products have an 8-10 week lead time. The 36W UV surface disinfection unit is designed for small area UV disinfection, such as individual work stations, fume hoods or lab tables. Ideal for use in...www.cureuv.com
That is why air handlers are HO and full spectrum UVC blubs (High Output - 250 watt bulbs) as it can kill viruses in about a second as air passes through the device. In UVB applications the lights have to be properly spaced so that it fully kills the virus above your head. It does not have to kill the virus just make it inactive by killing the links within the RNA strand which stop replication.Exactly what you want is an extended kill zone giving an extended dwell time. If the duration is too short to effect a complete kill all your likely to do is build up a resistant stain of whatever it is you're trying to kill off.It's a bit more complicated than that. For real sanitation the terms need to be exposed for more than the split second it takes to run through the small device. A real air sanitizer will have a tunnel with a number of lights.Old Technology could breath new life into Restaurants and other close contact businesses...
In a Duh moment several of my colleagues and I may have just come up with a plan to allow close contact businesses to function safely.
Hospitals use what is called a negative pressure room for patients who have infectious diseases. These operate on specific air flow patterns, controlled humidity, and UV lights which the air is pulled through to kill any virus.
Several Companies manufacture UV lights to be used above head high with slow updraft fans to kill the viruses in the air. They run about $175.00 and two can cover a room that is 100' X 30'. A series of these lights and fans in any restaurant could effectively capture and kill viruses that are airborne. These lights can also be fitted with covers that open automatically to the floor and seating areas every hour to kill surface viruses if the narrow band UV bulb is used.
Narrow band UV bulbs are safe for human exposure if it is monitored and intermittent.
We can add to this structured air flows so that air is drawn downward at walls and floor level around the room. This would pull the viruses downward to the floor where the air handler can push them out above the lights after filtration. You could also incorporate a High Output Light chamber (these are kind of pricey) to disinfect the air rapidly as it passes through the chamber. These were used in TB segregation wards so that the staff was not breathing the same air as the patients.
The technology is out there to bring America back on line quickly. The simple light and circulation fans can be installed in a day.
36W UV Surface Disinfection Unit with Deflector Shield for Biotech/Cle
Perfect for sterilizing work stations At this point to the best of our knowledge, all Lumalier products have an 8-10 week lead time. The 36W UV surface disinfection unit is designed for small area UV disinfection, such as individual work stations, fume hoods or lab tables. Ideal for use in...www.cureuv.com
My dad used to tell me that when he was a kid out playing in the woods, that the old timers taught them that in the Springtime when the poison ivy was first starting to grow that all the kids would eat the first leaves and in his whole life, he never got poison ivy!
Where did I ever say it would? It was an aside to the conversation as it came up.My dad used to tell me that when he was a kid out playing in the woods, that the old timers taught them that in the Springtime when the poison ivy was first starting to grow that all the kids would eat the first leaves and in his whole life, he never got poison ivy!
That's interesting, but poison ivy doesn't kill hundreds of thousands nor make you feel the worse flu you've ever had.
That is an old vaccine developed for Ebola that clinical tests seem to show good evidence of being able to shorten Covid illness from 15 to 11 days by supplanting a chain of RNA that renders it inactive after 5 iterations. Promising, for now. That's assuming you get some on the first day.I'll try the remdesivir Dr. Fauci recommended.
Drive down to the lake on 88 and fire up the in-car DVD player.They need to bring back drive-in movies and burger places where the hot little chicky-poo roller skates up to your car & takes your order
This place is a bit of a drive, but this hot little blonde wants to go see a movie, so what's a guy to do??
Ocala Drive-In
That is an old vaccine developed for Ebola that clinical tests seem to show good evidence of being able to shorten Covid illness from 15 to 11 days by supplanting a chain of RNA that renders it inactive after 5 iterations. Promising, for now. That's assuming you get some on the first day.
If the cook or server has a virus that virus can be transmitted there is no way for uv light to kill it before serving.You are aware meat packing plants have been using station serilization bulbs for about 10 years now. Are you not? The only person with the farce is people like you who are ignorant of ways the industries have been trying to protect them for years.Old Technology could breath new life into Restaurants and other close contact businesses...
In a Duh moment several of my colleagues and I may have just come up with a plan to allow close contact businesses to function safely.
Hospitals use what is called a negative pressure room for patients who have infectious diseases. These operate on specific air flow patterns, controlled humidity, and UV lights which the air is pulled through to kill any virus.
Several Companies manufacture UV lights to be used above head high with slow updraft fans to kill the viruses in the air. They run about $175.00 and two can cover a room that is 100' X 30'. A series of these lights and fans in any restaurant could effectively capture and kill viruses that are airborne. These lights can also be fitted with covers that open automatically to the floor and seating areas every hour to kill surface viruses if the narrow band UV bulb is used.
Narrow band UV bulbs are safe for human exposure if it is monitored and intermittent.
We can add to this structured air flows so that air is drawn downward at walls and floor level around the room. This would pull the viruses downward to the floor where the air handler can push them out above the lights after filtration. You could also incorporate a High Output Light chamber (these are kind of pricey) to disinfect the air rapidly as it passes through the chamber. These were used in TB segregation wards so that the staff was not breathing the same air as the patients.
The technology is out there to bring America back on line quickly. The simple light and circulation fans can be installed in a day.
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Duh might work as long as no one eats any food
Luke, the farce is strong with this one
If the cook or server has a virus that virus can be transmitted there is no way for uv light to kill it before serving.
But you go right ahead and burn people to death and give them skin cancer and melanomas. Not that anyone will ever eat in your fantasy restaurant
If the cook or server has a virus that virus can be transmitted there is no way for uv light to kill it before serving.
But you go right ahead and burn people to death and give them skin cancer and melanomas. Not that anyone will ever eat in your fantasy restaurant
The self-serve restaurants such as all you can eat buffets, buffets, pizza lines, salad bars, sushi boats, salsa bars, and more would have to rethink their business model or be shutdown due to liquid micron transmission. However, most full serve restaurants can test their employees for fever and take precautions so the public can eat there.
Nonsense. As viruses go this one is quite mild. It takes the very old and the very sick. Any death is a tragedy but we are not immortal. Sadly this virus like every other virus burns through nursing homes. There is nothing new or different.This was a real pandemic that if left to burn uncontrolled would have killed millions. This was handled the best way we could given our circumstances. Given our current information, rate of spread, severity of infections, those who were affected, had it gone unchecked, the number of dead would be very high. There was never going to be a win or killing of this virus. it was going to run its course and the only thing we could do is slow it so we could manage the illnesses and not get overwhelmed.You are damned if you do...........damned if you don't...........EUV shorter than 100nm burns skin for a reason. I for one don't want to live in a laboratory all my life. You are talking about a major investment for a business to do all of that. Worse, living in a sterile environment actually LOWERS your resistance and immunity making you more susceptible and dependent within that environment!Old Technology could breath new life into Restaurants and other close contact businesses...
Narrow band UV bulbs are safe for human exposure if it is monitored and intermittent.
If a REAL PANDEMIC COMES.........and these systems don't have them.........well we aren't gonna have enough body bags to stack the dead.
This one is turning out to be only slightly worse than the dang Flu.
If the cook or server has a virus that virus can be transmitted there is no way for uv light to kill it before serving.
But you go right ahead and burn people to death and give them skin cancer and melanomas. Not that anyone will ever eat in your fantasy restaurant
The self-serve restaurants such as all you can eat buffets, buffets, pizza lines, salad bars, sushi boats, salsa bars, and more would have to rethink their business model or be shutdown due to liquid micron transmission. However, most full serve restaurants can test their employees for fever and take precautions so the public can eat there.
There is no fever for 90 percent of c19 infections
Try again
If the cook or server has a virus that virus can be transmitted there is no way for uv light to kill it before serving.
But you go right ahead and burn people to death and give them skin cancer and melanomas. Not that anyone will ever eat in your fantasy restaurant
The self-serve restaurants such as all you can eat buffets, buffets, pizza lines, salad bars, sushi boats, salsa bars, and more would have to rethink their business model or be shutdown due to liquid micron transmission. However, most full serve restaurants can test their employees for fever and take precautions so the public can eat there.
There is no fever for 90 percent of c19 infections
Try again
I don't have to try again. You can just sit on your old, potentially sick, creaky arse at home while the rest of us take precautions, go out, and have a good time. I'm already going back to work on Monday to face the co-workers and public (limited contact) in order to do a necessary business in these trying times. Front lines.
You are close. For 90 percent of "infections" there is no fever, cough, stuffy nose or any symptoms at all. We used to call someone not sick, healthy.If the cook or server has a virus that virus can be transmitted there is no way for uv light to kill it before serving.
But you go right ahead and burn people to death and give them skin cancer and melanomas. Not that anyone will ever eat in your fantasy restaurant
The self-serve restaurants such as all you can eat buffets, buffets, pizza lines, salad bars, sushi boats, salsa bars, and more would have to rethink their business model or be shutdown due to liquid micron transmission. However, most full serve restaurants can test their employees for fever and take precautions so the public can eat there.
There is no fever for 90 percent of c19 infections
Try again
Nonsense. As viruses go this one is quite mild. It takes the very old and the very sick. Any death is a tragedy but we are not immortal. Sadly this virus like every other virus burns through nursing homes. There is nothing new or different.