Old cars suck | Change my mind

[Ringel05]

I really dont like old cars that are stock. With the exception of muscle cars from the 60s, and maybe a few from the 70s, im not interested in old cars at all. If it isnt a restomod, its awful.

For starters, old cars are unreliable. There was once a time when 100,000 miles meant your car was ready for a graveyard. They just didnt hold up, even if you maintained them.

Secondly, they arent safe. They handle terribly and their brakes are atrocious. They have no business being on the road with modern cars. We have enough deaths on our roads as it is.

Third, and most importantly, they dont perform well at all. You cant corner effectively, and they arent fast (by todays standards). For about $2,000, you can tune up a friggin Ford Focus to easily outperform the baddest cars from the past (top speed, quarter mile, track times, etc).

Ok, this is old and in super good condition, but its shape is silly...

For the money you probably spent to buy that ^, you could buy this BMW 8 Series Coupe.

If you had 100 grand to spend on a car, would it be on an old classic? Come on man. Dont tell me you wouldnt take the Beamer.

Old cars suck, change my mind.

Yup, ugly as all hell......

^ Dope.

Ah yes, projection suits you.

Lol, I mean its a dope car. You successfully "changed my mind" with that particular one. I wasnt insulting you.

Ya have to realize I'm now considered a geezer, dope was either an idiot or something you inhaled or ingested..........

 

[rightwinger]

I really dont like old cars that are stock. With the exception of muscle cars from the 60s, and maybe a few from the 70s, im not interested in old cars at all. If it isnt a restomod, its awful.

For starters, old cars are unreliable. There was once a time when 100,000 miles meant your car was ready for a graveyard. They just didnt hold up, even if you maintained them.

Secondly, they arent safe. They handle terribly and their brakes are atrocious. They have no business being on the road with modern cars. We have enough deaths on our roads as it is.

Third, and most importantly, they dont perform well at all. You cant corner effectively, and they arent fast (by todays standards). For about $2,000, you can tune up a friggin Ford Focus to easily outperform the baddest cars from the past (top speed, quarter mile, track times, etc).

Ok, this is old and in super good condition, but its shape is silly...

For the money you probably spent to buy that ^, you could buy this BMW 8 Series Coupe.

If you had 100 grand to spend on a car, would it be on an old classic? Come on man. Dont tell me you wouldnt take the Beamer.

Old cars suck, change my mind.

At least the old cars looked different and were distinctive while today's cars all look the same. So much so they've stopped making most of them. Style no longer counts so now it's all about utility and it's either a sport ute (today's station wagon and grocery getter aka soccer mom mobile) or a pick up truck.

Before the 70s, old cars looked different

By the 70s.....Chevy, Pontiac, Buick, Olds all had models that looked the same
Fords and Mercury looked the same
Dodge and Plymouth looked the same

 

[Wyatt earp]

1972 Ford Gran Torino. I do like that.

Unfortunately or fortunately (whichever way you look at it) I hate, hate, hate most of the 70s and 80s cars, think they are the ugliest pieces of junk Detroit ever put out.

With few exceptions (Trans Am) they were ugly, poorly made cars

Lazy ass Union workers, who thought their gravy train would last forever?


I agree.

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[Godboy]

I'll take my GT40 MkI over a modern car any day of the week

A 2019 Ford GT is simply a better looking/performing version of that car, but i do love GT40s.

In thirty years, you'll still think that is a nice looking car, and some young punk will tell you it is garbage.


Meanwhile, there are folks on this forum that think this is a better looking car, while yours is just inorganic and depressing.

I said i like 60s and 70s muscle cars. Im 46 by the way. Im not exactly young.

46.

When I was a kid, I looked up to the 18 year old paper boy as a man of the world.
But when I got to be 18 myself, I realized I knew nothing.

Then I was 30 and was sure I was on top of the world. Couldn't have been farther from the truth.

When I hit 40, I was sure I had really arrived.

But it wasn't until I was 50 that I realized I was just starting to understand the way things are. That was the first time I knew I was an adult.

Now that I'm in my 60s, I finally understand that I'm just beginning to understand.

46. You're a fucking kid. You don't know shit.

I know what i like and dont like, thats for sure.

 

[Godboy]

1972 Ford Gran Torino. I do like that.

I hate it. The tires and wheels are the only thing i like on it.

 

[Godboy]

1972 Ford Gran Torino. I do like that.

I had a 72 Gran Torino, I hated that car with a passion when I was 16...it seemed like every week something went wrong with it, working at arby's I rode my bicycle more then I drove it.

Engine replaced

Starter

Battery

Alternative..


When I finally had enough of it, it wouldn't go in reverse, I gave it to my uncle for $500 and bought a 1972 Gran Prix SE.


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Old cares arent reliable. Thats one of the main reasons i dont like them.

 

[Wyatt earp]

I'll take my GT40 MkI over a modern car any day of the week

A 2019 Ford GT is simply a better looking/performing version of that car, but i do love GT40s.

In thirty years, you'll still think that is a nice looking car, and some young punk will tell you it is garbage.


Meanwhile, there are folks on this forum that think this is a better looking car, while yours is just inorganic and depressing.

I said i like 60s and 70s muscle cars. Im 46 by the way. Im not exactly young.

46.

When I was a kid, I looked up to the 18 year old paper boy as a man of the world.
But when I got to be 18 myself, I realized I knew nothing.

Then I was 30 and was sure I was on top of the world. Couldn't have been farther from the truth.

When I hit 40, I was sure I had really arrived.

But it wasn't until I was 50 that I realized I was just starting to understand the way things are. That was the first time I knew I was an adult.

Now that I'm in my 60s, I finally understand that I'm just beginning to understand.

46. You're a fucking kid. You don't know shit.

I know what i like and dont like, thats for sure.

I didn't know I like broccoli or whiskey till my 50's ...


Just saying..

 

[Godboy]

1972 Ford Gran Torino. I do like that.

Unfortunately or fortunately (whichever way you look at it) I hate, hate, hate most of the 70s and 80s cars, think they are the ugliest pieces of junk Detroit ever put out.

You see, youre a lot like me, except ill hate on cars older than that.

 

[Ringel05]

1972 Ford Gran Torino. I do like that.

Unfortunately or fortunately (whichever way you look at it) I hate, hate, hate most of the 70s and 80s cars, think they are the ugliest pieces of junk Detroit ever put out.

With few exceptions (Trans Am) they were ugly, poorly made cars

It was kind of a transition period where they just couldn't seem to get their act together. Hell the only American made vehicle back then I would (and did buy) were ford trucks. Had a 72 F-150, 360 V-8, 3 on the tree, two tone burgundy and white. The thing was a beast, went any were and now that I look look at pictures of those trucks, they were ugly......

 

[Ringel05]

1972 Ford Gran Torino. I do like that.

Unfortunately or fortunately (whichever way you look at it) I hate, hate, hate most of the 70s and 80s cars, think they are the ugliest pieces of junk Detroit ever put out.

You see, youre a lot like me, except ill hate on cars older than that.

We're all like that, it's all a matter of taste, nothing more, nothing less.

 

[22lcidw]

1972 Ford Gran Torino. I do like that.

I had a 72 Gran Torino, I hated that car with a passion when I was 16...it seemed like every week something went wrong with it, working at arby's I rode my bicycle more then I drove it.

Engine replaced

Starter

Battery

Alternative..


When I finally had enough of it, it wouldn't go in reverse, I gave it to my uncle for $500 and bought a 1972 Gran Prix SE.


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To each their own My parents had a 1973 Ford Torino. It would take forever to start. And it rusted in front of you. However, to each their own and what is liked.

 

[Ringel05]

I really dont like old cars that are stock. With the exception of muscle cars from the 60s, and maybe a few from the 70s, im not interested in old cars at all. If it isnt a restomod, its awful.

For starters, old cars are unreliable. There was once a time when 100,000 miles meant your car was ready for a graveyard. They just didnt hold up, even if you maintained them.

Secondly, they arent safe. They handle terribly and their brakes are atrocious. They have no business being on the road with modern cars. We have enough deaths on our roads as it is.

Third, and most importantly, they dont perform well at all. You cant corner effectively, and they arent fast (by todays standards). For about $2,000, you can tune up a friggin Ford Focus to easily outperform the baddest cars from the past (top speed, quarter mile, track times, etc).

Ok, this is old and in super good condition, but its shape is silly...

For the money you probably spent to buy that ^, you could buy this BMW 8 Series Coupe.

If you had 100 grand to spend on a car, would it be on an old classic? Come on man. Dont tell me you wouldnt take the Beamer.

Old cars suck, change my mind.

At least the old cars looked different and were distinctive while today's cars all look the same. So much so they've stopped making most of them. Style no longer counts so now it's all about utility and it's either a sport ute (today's station wagon and grocery getter aka soccer mom mobile) or a pick up truck.

Before the 70s, old cars looked different

By the 70s.....Chevy, Pontiac, Buick, Olds all had models that looked the same
Fords and Mercury looked the same
Dodge and Plymouth looked the same

Especially today, in most cases I have to look the manufacturer logos/names on the vehicles because I can't tell them apart. This includes passenger vehicles and SUVs.

 

[Wyatt earp]

I really dont like old cars that are stock. With the exception of muscle cars from the 60s, and maybe a few from the 70s, im not interested in old cars at all. If it isnt a restomod, its awful.

For starters, old cars are unreliable. There was once a time when 100,000 miles meant your car was ready for a graveyard. They just didnt hold up, even if you maintained them.

Secondly, they arent safe. They handle terribly and their brakes are atrocious. They have no business being on the road with modern cars. We have enough deaths on our roads as it is.

Third, and most importantly, they dont perform well at all. You cant corner effectively, and they arent fast (by todays standards). For about $2,000, you can tune up a friggin Ford Focus to easily outperform the baddest cars from the past (top speed, quarter mile, track times, etc).

Ok, this is old and in super good condition, but its shape is silly...

For the money you probably spent to buy that ^, you could buy this BMW 8 Series Coupe.

If you had 100 grand to spend on a car, would it be on an old classic? Come on man. Dont tell me you wouldnt take the Beamer.

Old cars suck, change my mind.

At least the old cars looked different and were distinctive while today's cars all look the same. So much so they've stopped making most of them. Style no longer counts so now it's all about utility and it's either a sport ute (today's station wagon and grocery getter aka soccer mom mobile) or a pick up truck.

Before the 70s, old cars looked different

By the 70s.....Chevy, Pontiac, Buick, Olds all had models that looked the same
Fords and Mercury looked the same
Dodge and Plymouth looked the same

Especially today, in most cases I have to look the manufacturer logos/names on the vehicles because I can't tell them apart. This includes passenger vehicles and SUVs.

I was thinking the same thing..really only pickup trucks it's easy to spot the difference

 

[airplanemechanic]

I really dont like old cars that are stock. With the exception of muscle cars from the 60s, and maybe a few from the 70s, im not interested in old cars at all. If it isnt a restomod, its awful.

For starters, old cars are unreliable. There was once a time when 100,000 miles meant your car was ready for a graveyard. They just didnt hold up, even if you maintained them.

Secondly, they arent safe. They handle terribly and their brakes are atrocious. They have no business being on the road with modern cars. We have enough deaths on our roads as it is.

Third, and most importantly, they dont perform well at all. You cant corner effectively, and they arent fast (by todays standards). For about $2,000, you can tune up a friggin Ford Focus to easily outperform the baddest cars from the past (top speed, quarter mile, track times, etc).

Ok, this is old and in super good condition, but its shape is silly...

For the money you probably spent to buy that ^, you could buy this BMW 8 Series Coupe.

If you had 100 grand to spend on a car, would it be on an old classic? Come on man. Dont tell me you wouldnt take the Beamer.

Old cars suck, change my mind.

The absolutle last car I would ever buy is a fucking BMW. Big Money Waster.

They are built like shit, they don't last, they cost way too much and lose their value way too quickly. My uncle bought one brand new and had nothing but problems with it almost since day 1. He now HATES that POS but he paid so much for it if he sells it they'll eat his lunch. I mean he had the BACK OF THE SPEEDOMETER PEEL OFF WHERE IT STOPPED THE NEEDLE FROM MOVING. I mean what fucking POS car would have that happen to it after a few years?

A GOOD car wouldn't sell for 130,000 new and in 10 years be on Barrett Jackson going for 8-12 grand.

 

[Dick Foster]

I really dont like old cars that are stock. With the exception of muscle cars from the 60s, and maybe a few from the 70s, im not interested in old cars at all. If it isnt a restomod, its awful.

For starters, old cars are unreliable. There was once a time when 100,000 miles meant your car was ready for a graveyard. They just didnt hold up, even if you maintained them.

Secondly, they arent safe. They handle terribly and their brakes are atrocious. They have no business being on the road with modern cars. We have enough deaths on our roads as it is.

Third, and most importantly, they dont perform well at all. You cant corner effectively, and they arent fast (by todays standards). For about $2,000, you can tune up a friggin Ford Focus to easily outperform the baddest cars from the past (top speed, quarter mile, track times, etc).

Ok, this is old and in super good condition, but its shape is silly...

For the money you probably spent to buy that ^, you could buy this BMW 8 Series Coupe.

If you had 100 grand to spend on a car, would it be on an old classic? Come on man. Dont tell me you wouldnt take the Beamer.

Old cars suck, change my mind.

At least the old cars looked different and were distinctive while today's cars all look the same. So much so they've stopped making most of them. Style no longer counts so now it's all about utility and it's either a sport ute (today's station wagon and grocery getter aka soccer mom mobile) or a pick up truck.

Before the 70s, old cars looked different

By the 70s.....Chevy, Pontiac, Buick, Olds all had models that looked the same
Fords and Mercury looked the same
Dodge and Plymouth looked the same

Yeah and thats about when

I really dont like old cars that are stock. With the exception of muscle cars from the 60s, and maybe a few from the 70s, im not interested in old cars at all. If it isnt a restomod, its awful.

For starters, old cars are unreliable. There was once a time when 100,000 miles meant your car was ready for a graveyard. They just didnt hold up, even if you maintained them.

Secondly, they arent safe. They handle terribly and their brakes are atrocious. They have no business being on the road with modern cars. We have enough deaths on our roads as it is.

Third, and most importantly, they dont perform well at all. You cant corner effectively, and they arent fast (by todays standards). For about $2,000, you can tune up a friggin Ford Focus to easily outperform the baddest cars from the past (top speed, quarter mile, track times, etc).

Ok, this is old and in super good condition, but its shape is silly...

For the money you probably spent to buy that ^, you could buy this BMW 8 Series Coupe.

If you had 100 grand to spend on a car, would it be on an old classic? Come on man. Dont tell me you wouldnt take the Beamer.

Old cars suck, change my mind.

At least the old cars looked different and were distinctive while today's cars all look the same. So much so they've stopped making most of them. Style no longer counts so now it's all about utility and it's either a sport ute (today's station wagon and grocery getter aka soccer mom mobile) or a pick up truck.

Before the 70s, old cars looked different

By the 70s.....Chevy, Pontiac, Buick, Olds all had models that looked the same
Fords and Mercury looked the same
Dodge and Plymouth looked the same

And that's about when American cars went to shit. My last American made car was a 78 Pontiac Grad Prix and that load of shit made me swear off for life. I haven't bought an American make since. It wasn't the car as much as it was the conversation I had with the head of Pontiac motor divison. It's more of a attitude problem as the first step in fixing anything is first realizing that it's broken. Kinda like todays democrats.

 

[rightwinger]

1972 Ford Gran Torino. I do like that.

Unfortunately or fortunately (whichever way you look at it) I hate, hate, hate most of the 70s and 80s cars, think they are the ugliest pieces of junk Detroit ever put out.

With few exceptions (Trans Am) they were ugly, poorly made cars

Lazy ass Union workers, who thought their gravy train would last forever?


I agree.

.

Union workers did not design the cars, they did not buy the parts, they did not set quality standards

 

[Ringel05]

1972 Ford Gran Torino. I do like that.

Unfortunately or fortunately (whichever way you look at it) I hate, hate, hate most of the 70s and 80s cars, think they are the ugliest pieces of junk Detroit ever put out.

You see, youre a lot like me, except ill hate on cars older than that.

BTW, my dream car isn't even a car.

1995 Land Rover Defender

 

[rightwinger]

1972 Ford Gran Torino. I do like that.

I had a 72 Gran Torino, I hated that car with a passion when I was 16...it seemed like every week something went wrong with it, working at arby's I rode my bicycle more then I drove it.

Engine replaced

Starter

Battery

Alternative..


When I finally had enough of it, it wouldn't go in reverse, I gave it to my uncle for $500 and bought a 1972 Gran Prix SE.


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To each their own My parents had a 1973 Ford Torino. It would take forever to start. And it rusted in front of you. However, to each their own and what is liked.

Those cars sucked
Rusted at 80,000 miles, paint peeled, upholstery fell apart, engines burned oil, they squeaked and rattled as you drove

 

[Wyatt earp]

1972 Ford Gran Torino. I do like that.

Unfortunately or fortunately (whichever way you look at it) I hate, hate, hate most of the 70s and 80s cars, think they are the ugliest pieces of junk Detroit ever put out.

With few exceptions (Trans Am) they were ugly, poorly made cars

Lazy ass Union workers, who thought their gravy train would last forever?


I agree.

.

Union workers did not design the cars, they did not buy the parts, they did not set quality standards

So you telling us they didn't give a damn, correct, even when they knew better?

Btw the Unions ran GM, Ford and Chrysler.

.

 

[Dick Foster]

I really dont like old cars that are stock. With the exception of muscle cars from the 60s, and maybe a few from the 70s, im not interested in old cars at all. If it isnt a restomod, its awful.

For starters, old cars are unreliable. There was once a time when 100,000 miles meant your car was ready for a graveyard. They just didnt hold up, even if you maintained them.

Secondly, they arent safe. They handle terribly and their brakes are atrocious. They have no business being on the road with modern cars. We have enough deaths on our roads as it is.

Third, and most importantly, they dont perform well at all. You cant corner effectively, and they arent fast (by todays standards). For about $2,000, you can tune up a friggin Ford Focus to easily outperform the baddest cars from the past (top speed, quarter mile, track times, etc).

Ok, this is old and in super good condition, but its shape is silly...

For the money you probably spent to buy that ^, you could buy this BMW 8 Series Coupe.

If you had 100 grand to spend on a car, would it be on an old classic? Come on man. Dont tell me you wouldnt take the Beamer.

Old cars suck, change my mind.

At least the old cars looked different and were distinctive while today's cars all look the same. So much so they've stopped making most of them. Style no longer counts so now it's all about utility and it's either a sport ute (today's station wagon and grocery getter aka soccer mom mobile) or a pick up truck.

Before the 70s, old cars looked different

By the 70s.....Chevy, Pontiac, Buick, Olds all had models that looked the same
Fords and Mercury looked the same
Dodge and Plymouth looked the same

Especially today, in most cases I have to look the manufacturer logos/names on the vehicles because I can't tell them apart. This includes passenger vehicles and SUVs.

I was thinking the same thing..really only pickup trucks it's easy to spot the difference

Not so much pickups either. Toyota used to make a good pickup in the tacoma but then they stated making them bigger and to look like dodge rams and now they too have gone to shit. They were once built in Fremont CA in what is now the Tesla plant but the last I heard they are put together in Mexico now, a decision Toyota America made.
What a great idea Toyota had. First kick someone's ass around the block on their own home turf then hire all the losers to run your American division. DUH!