Oklahoma Passes Bill Banning ALL Abortions - No Rape Exceptions - 10 years in Prison for Performing one

[Rigby5]

Yes, because the only options are "Give me more of other people's money, or I have to kill the baby!" You seem to have confused this with a hostage negotiation.

It is.
If you want to force people to raise a fetus, then you have to pay.

 

[Jets]

Yes, because the only options are "Give me more of other people's money, or I have to kill the baby!" You seem to have confused this with a hostage negotiation.

Not confused in the least considering I never stated those were the only options.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

It is.
If you want to force people to raise a fetus, then you have to pay.

Raise a fetus? Hahahaha

 

[martybegan]

Except that there is no religion that says you should not sell your items to customers who might be gay and violate your religious beliefs for what you are supposed to do or not do.
Any religion that says you should demand others do or not do something, is totally evil and illegal.

There are plenty of religions that consider same sex relationships sinful. That is enough in a nation with free exercise to consider letting people who follow that religion not participate in something that celebrates said relationships.

This isn't about denying point of sale services, but not wanting to enter into a contract to provide a very easily replaceable elsewhere product.

 

[Rigby5]

Really? So the law bans putting children up for adoption? Interesting.

Giving birth has about 100 times the risk of just an abortion, so you are trying to illegally force women to risk their lives.

 

[Rigby5]

There are plenty of religions that consider same sex relationships sinful. That is enough in a nation with free exercise to consider letting people who follow that religion not participate in something that celebrates said relationships.

This isn't about denying point of sale services, but not wanting to enter into a contract to provide a very easily replaceable elsewhere product.

Wrong.
The religions that consider same sex relationships sinful do NOT at all condemn it when someone else does it.
All these religions do is say YOU as an individual should not do it, or else you are committing a sin.
But you are NOT supposed to do anything about anyone else.
Your religions does NOT say what anyone else should do, only what you should do.
And if you are a baker, you are supposed to bake cakes for anyone and everyone who wants one.
If you allow people to pick and choose who they are willing to do business with, when they claim to be open to the public, then you are allowing wholesale discrimination, like against Blacks, Jews, etc.
And that clearly is illegal.
No one has a right to proscribe what their customers must do or not do.
What if it is a small town with only one baker?

 

[Cecilie1200]

Oklahoma just became a Biden state, child tax credit fund, look out!

I definitely suggest you run with the idea that the vast majority of people are as fanatically attached to killing unborn babies as you are. I'm sure that will somehow rescue President Houseplant's administration.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Hmmmmm, are they gonna go full Ireland and throw doctors in prison for terminating a pregnancy when a women is in the middle of a miscarriage and will die unless they do so? Because THAT is what the right wants.

"I've decided THIS is what they want, because it's what I want to argue against!"

 

[Cecilie1200]

Not confused in the least considering I never stated those were the only options.

Yeah, you did, however much your illiterate ass wants to backpedal now. Too bad for you that some of us understand that words have meanings.

 

[Jets]

Yeah, you did, however much your illiterate ass wants to backpedal now. Too bad for you that some of us understand that words have meanings.

No I didn’t.

You created a false either/or argument that was not there until you made it into a straw man.

Try again.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Wrong.
And not only that, but all people remember that in their childhood, the first year or two is totally and completely without any consciousness, self awareness, sentience, etc.

So you think we should be able to kill the babies anytime till they have total consciousness and self awareness?

As for me, I considered my children to be just that from the very second we found out my wife was pregnant with both of them. There was never a time when I did not view them as human beings.

Do your kids know you did not think they were humans until they were a few years old?

 

[White 6]

I'm marveling at your attitude that the only thing stopping men from raping women is that "Aha! She'll foil you by aborting the baby!"

How do you manage to pack that much sociopathy and misogyny into one short post?

It's a gift and a perverse sense of humor. Thank you very much, really. Remember if you want to get in on the guaranteed gene pool contribution, and you just can't find a girl in your own state that will tolerate your seed, get to Oklahoma now and get in before the lock (that might come later) as we say on here of threads that get stifled due to the good sense of the Mods. Get your lil needle d#ck down there right away, to insure your place in posterity. Worst case is it might cost you five years, but the chick (willing or unwilling) will pick up the tab for at least 18 and your seed goes into all future generations of Oklahomans! So come, come, come on down before the best ones are gone. Remember, if she is 14 or under, her daddy will be picking up the tab and still nothing she can do about it. HURRY, HURRY, HURRY! Miss Oklahoma Awaits! The Surest Path to Posterity Around Is An Oklahoma Girl Going down! Sponsored by citizens for good government, the Oklahoma Republican Party and Oklahoma legislature

 

[martybegan]

Wrong.
The religions that consider same sex relationships sinful do NOT at all condemn it when someone else does it.
All these religions do is say YOU as an individual should not do it, or else you are committing a sin.
But you are NOT supposed to do anything about anyone else.
Your religions does NOT say what anyone else should do, only what you should do.
And if you are a baker, you are supposed to bake cakes for anyone and everyone who wants one.
If you allow people to pick and choose who they are willing to do business with, when they claim to be open to the public, then you are allowing wholesale discrimination, like against Blacks, Jews, etc.
And that clearly is illegal.
No one has a right to proscribe what their customers must do or not do.
What if it is a small town with only one baker?

You don't get to dictate how people practice their religion and neither does government, that's the whole point of the 1st Amendment Free Exercise clause.

PA laws do not override free exercise automatically.

and as for the small town thing, it's called a car.

 

[bendog]

It's a gift and a perverse sense of humor. Thank you very much, really. Remember if you want to get in on the guaranteed gene pool contribution, and you just can't find a girl in your own state that will tolerate your seed, get to Oklahoma now and get in before the lock (that might come later) as we say on here of threads that get stifled due to the good sense of the Mods. Get your lil needle d#ck down there right away, to insure your place in posterity. Worst case is it might cost you five years, but the chick (willing or unwilling) will pick up the tab for at least 18 and your seed goes into all future generations of Oklahomans! So come, come, come on down before the best ones are gone. Remember, if she is 14 or under, her daddy will be picking up the tab and still nothing she can do about it. HURRY, HURRY, HURRY! Miss Oklahoma Awaits! The Surest Path to Posterity Around Is An Oklahoma Girl Going down! Sponsored by citizens for good government, the Oklahoma Republican Party and Oklahoma legislature

Ah wonder if'n sum of them Okie womens maght thaynk 'bout movin. Course, Mizzuri and Kansas r gunna burn them womens having 'bortions. Texass done closed all thay're 'bortion mills. In Arkansaw u ken probably still have sex wit ur 8 year old cousin so long as u marry her or if'n its a boy he's got Downs. There's always Colrado.

 

[Faun]

Oklahoma Lawmakers Pass Bill That Bans Almost All Abortions—And Makes Performing One A Felony

The bill will now go to Gov. Kevin Stitt, who’s expected to sign it into law.

www.forbes.com

The legislation bans all abortions except in the case of medical emergencies, and makes performing an abortion a felony punishable by up to 10 years in prison and a $100,000 fine.

Women in Oklahoma must now keep their rape baby as an eternal reminder of what happened to them - the only exception is a medical emergency.

Thoughts?!

Since the current legal standing on abortion is that it's legal for any reason until viability, I suspect this was passed just to get abortion revisited in the Supreme Court.

 

[bendog]

Since the current legal standing on abortion is that it's legal for any reason until viability, I suspect this was passed just to get abortion revisited in the Supreme Court.

oh, Missippi's law to overtrun Roe done been argued and we're just waiting for the theocracy 5 to PUNISH THE SLUTS.

 

[g5000]

So if you want to father a kid, whether the woman wants one or not, but you want to pass your genes along, head for Oklahoma. You can have your way in the "Sooner" state and nothing she can do about it.

If you rape a woman in Oklahoma, there is nothing she can do about it?

O'rly?

 

[Faun]

So, having an abortion will help her forget all about the rape.

No, but it means she doesn't have to be reminded it of it every minute of every day, every time she looks at her child; or face an unconscionable custody battle some day in the future with the man who raped her.

 

[Mr Natural]

Guys:

The abortion issue is none of our business. Let it go.

 

[Faun]

In BL's mind it was her fault for getting raped, she probably asked for it

It's moot anyway since the force of the rape will prevent her from becoming pregnant.