Doc1
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Freedom itself represents them.
OK.....Lets keep the Confederate Statues
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Freedom itself represents them.
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Is it enough to take down the statues? No. It is not. There are the descendants of those who fought for the south. They and their families should be rounded up and executed, taken down, publicly. Even the children, although for them we can call it post birth abortion.
That's not enough. What about those who have the same names as those from the south. The Forests, Davis, Lee. Yes, I'm even talking about the Chinese Lees, they should be taught a lesson.
Have a purge on the order of Mao's or Stalin's nothing else is acceptable.
That's not enough. What about those who have the same names as those from the south. The Forests, Davis, Lee. Yes, I'm even talking about the Chinese Lees, they should be taught a lesson.
Have a purge on the order of Mao's or Stalin's nothing else is acceptable.
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And suddenly cons are defending protesters?
You wanted laws that made it legal to run protesters over in North Dakota !
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The Alt-Right is admitting to short attention span issues.Once you have destroyed Confederate history, what will you want to destroy next.But lets modify them to portray the correct historical context
Lets honor those who created a nation to ensure that blacks would be enslaved forever. That is what the Confederacy was about.......Not Scarlett O'Hara, Not gentlemen fighting for a noble cause, not a cool flag to fly on your pickup truck
Go build them yourself, raise the money, hire the artists and get them out there. You don't get to erase history that you find repugnant.
Nobody is erasing history
But you do not honor history that is repugnant. If we have statues about the confederacy, lets tell the WHOLE story
There are no statues of Hitler in Germany. Has that made anyone forget?
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Most counties in Mississippi have Confederate monuments outside or near their courthouses. In Brooksville in Noxubee County, a Confederate soldier stands along the railroad tracks that separate the white part of town from the black, almost as if to guard against integration.
Opinion | We should treat Confederate monuments the way Moscow and Budapest have treated communist statues
I’ve since reported numerous stories about injustices in the South, many of which involved racial bias, and in nearly every instance, the criminal-justice system that adjudicated those cases did so in courtrooms or police departments or district attorney’s offices or city halls that stand in the shadow of taxpayer-funded monuments celebrating the fight to keep black people as slaves.
[Confederate or not, which monuments should stay or go? We asked, you answered.]
Perhaps we’re too accustomed to it to notice the absurdity, but it is unquestionably absurd: Each day, thousands of black, shackled defendants appear before judges in courthouses guarded by memorials to a cause that believed those defendants’ ancestors were little more than livestock. The symbolism is inescapable. If a totalitarian country were to try members of an oppressed minority in a courtroom flanked by monuments to those who did the oppressing, we’d rightly call them show trials. Yet we’ve been doing exactly this in wide swaths of the South for more than a century.
Supporters of keeping Confederate monuments in place argue that they’re not about celebrating slavery or oppression, but about acknowledging heritage and the past. They argue that to remove the monuments is an attempt to rewrite history. But that isn’t quite right. No one is suggesting we remove the Confederate army from the history of Bull Run or Gettysburg. The objection is to the monuments and memorials that celebrate or glorify the Confederacy, or that explicitly honor those most known for fighting to keep black people from obtaining the legal rights of citizens.
The Battle of Liberty Place monument that was recently removed from New Orleans amid much controversy is a good example. This was literally a monument to a bloody Reconstruction-era rebellion against the state government staged by a white supremacist group. It wasn’t erected after the Civil War, but in 1891, as Reconstruction ended and Louisiana was actively oppressing, terrorizing and disenfranchising black people. The city added a plaque celebrating white supremacy in 1932, nearly 70 years after the Civil War and nearly 60 years after the battle itself.
In fact, the “history and heritage” argument is a hard sell for a lot of the Confederate monuments and memorials.
You say " each day, thousands of black, shackled defendants appear before judges"..etc and so on. What's your point? Each day in hundreds of courtrooms in the north stand thousands of black shackled defendants waiting to appear before judges, where they aren't standing in the shadow of taxpayer funded monuments celebrating the fight to keep black people as slaves. So, it's not the statues or reminders of slavery in days gone by that's at fault. It's the individuals and the choices they make.
Doc1
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(smile) Thanks for proving my point.
Some folks have lived it, most just piggy back on those that have. You go ahead and live your life based on the words of a dead drug addict, I'll live mine on experience. Just don't come up my driveway.
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To con-federates? How many are still alive?Yeah...con-federate history is so worth saving......Once you have destroyed Confederate history, what will you want to destroy next.But lets modify them to portray the correct historical context
Lets honor those who created a nation to ensure that blacks would be enslaved forever. That is what the Confederacy was about.......Not Scarlett O'Hara, Not gentlemen fighting for a noble cause, not a cool flag to fly on your pickup truck
Go build them yourself, raise the money, hire the artists and get them out there. You don't get to erase history that you find repugnant.
Nobody is erasing history
But you do not honor history that is repugnant. If we have statues about the confederacy, lets tell the WHOLE story
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It is to them.
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Doc1
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Your ability to think is completely represented in this post.
Doc1
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Pretending you are black am I free to call you a nig*a?
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It good enough for me and Bobbie McGee
You ain't nothing if you ain't free
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But what can we do to get the White trash to behave better?
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Kris Kristofferson is not dead
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You don't get to display your bigotry on public land, paid for by all the taxpayers. That's why these statues are going into museums, like other things discarded by history and progress.
But lets modify them to portray the correct historical context
Lets honor those who created a nation to ensure that blacks would be enslaved forever. That is what the Confederacy was about.......Not Scarlett O'Hara, Not gentlemen fighting for a noble cause, not a cool flag to fly on your pickup truck
Meh, if my great 3x grandfather had known things would have turned out like this he would of picked the cotton himself
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THAT is the question!
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