musicman AJ: "You cheapen human life by denying the reality that abortion has been with mankind since history has been recorded...". Not only did I NOT say that - I said exactly the opposite. You're not going to start LYING again, are you?
Why must you insist that paraphrasing you on post # 147 on this thread was a lie? You said, "As you stated, pregnancies have been terminated - one way or another - throughout history, but never, ever, in an atmosphere of such relaxed acceptance....Civilized society has a stake in this, too. The cheapening of human life affects us all."
Now what is your opposite propostion that you accuse me of lying about? You are so certain of your opinions, give us a little of that infinite wisdom of yours.
"The Supreme Court held that a woman's right to an abortion fell within the right to privacy...protected by the Fourteenth Amendment...".
In other words, the Federal Judiciary, acting completely outside it's constitutional powers, granted an official government Imprimatur to abortion on demand.
Oh now you are some kind of official Constitutional expert! You couldn't be more wrong. The Federal Judiciary simply said that the Constitution cannot deny a citizen's right to privacy as applied to abortion. Any opinion by the Supreme Court allowing or disallowing abortion per se would really be acting outside their role as interpreters of the U.S. Constitution. Try to understand that the Supreme Court is restricted to interpretation of the Constitution and cannot make new Constitutional Laws not already innumerated in this document. This concept may be to difficult for your ability to understand.
"Yes and now the American 'right' Supreme Court judges have upheld that same constitutional right to privacy".
How would you, I, or anyone else alive today know what a 'right' Supreme Court would uphold? There's a judge, sitting right now (Breyer), who has declared that the U.S. Constitution will have to "evolve, in order to fit with the documents of other nations".
Apparently the current right leaning Supreme Court has not reversed Roe vs Wade. That's how I know what they would uphold.
Does Judge Breyer constitute the majority Supreme Court vote which would effectively destroy the framers US Constitution. You do realize that any change to the Constitution would have to be voted on by the citizens of the United States? Do you think that the people of the United States are interested in legislating morality into this document which serves us better than any other countries constitution in the entire world?
We have lived our lives in the midst of governmental madness, while a biased information machine has assured us that up is down, and day is night. Those days are coming to an end, my friend.
Is that fact based on your own wisdom and universal insight? The day that our Constitution is altered or changed, is the day that America will no longer be a land of the free with justice for all.
"You are not protecting innocent and helpless babies, you are trying to go back to the time when women died and when the statistics were the same as today".
Lame, inflammatory rhetoric. Please don't try to portray me as a chauvinistic proponent of back-alley abortions. I'm immune to that garbage.
Really you could have fooled me.....
Abortions can be done safely, and, as a legitimate medical procedure, that's how they SHOULD be done. But, statistics (and 30 million abortions) have shown that government-codified abortion on demand will inevitably descend into heartless mass-murder for convenience's sake. If you're "just not ready for a baby right now", don't make one.
Your self righteous pronouncements should be reserved for your own small group of believers. Human nature for procreation are built into mankind for the preservation of our homosapien species. Your "mass-murder for convenience sake" is based on your opinons and beliefs as there are those who not only disagree but find that the Creator Himself ultimately decides if a fetus is still-born or leaves it up to the free-will choice consequences of those who must make them.
"Either you are blind or you are ignoring the fact that both the right, middle and left US public are in the majority behind the privacy of individuals and their right to abort in safety and legally".
Wow - both the right, middle, AND left? Amazing!
It is amazing that you can understand the basic concept that humans along the entire political spectrum can make up their own minds instead of sitting at your feet to learn and understand your god like pronouncements.
Do you approve of post-natal abortion?
Are they? We shall see, AJ. We shall see.
"7 And the L-RD G-d formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul".
You interpret this to mean that God "...has advised mankind in his Bible that there is no HUMAN LIFE in the forming fetus." That's an exraordinary leap, AJ - especially when you consider that ADAM WAS NEVER A FETUS![/QUOTE]
