Official USMB Shutdown Showdown Thread --- Jan 10th, 2019

[Faun]

It looks like the rats are bailing on the Piglosi/Schumer sinking ship:

Matthew Boyle, Author at Breitbart​

Congressional Democrats are ditching House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer’s ardent opposition to any barrier or wall along the U.S. border with Mexico, as the partial government shutdown continues and President Donald Trump takes his case directly to the border itself.

““If we have a partial wall, if we have fencing, if we have technology used to keep our border safe, all of that is fine,” Rep. Cheri Bustos (D-IL), the chairwoman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC), said on CNN.

Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-OR) also backed a barrier along the U.S. border with Mexico.

“Some fencing is useful, some barriers are useful,” Merkley said. “There’s a lot of surveillance technology. I’ve been to some cities on the border that have triple fencing and have more personnel and have the technology to see the people moving in the middle of the night.”

These very prominent congressional Democrats’ message on the effectiveness of a wall or barrier or fence is very different from the coordinated message from Schumer and Pelosi just two nights ago when the two Democrat leaders in Congress said in their response to President Trump’s Oval Office address that the wall would be “ineffective.”

Pelosi called the wall “expensive and ineffective,” something that was an “obsession” of Trump’s–while Schumer bashed Trump’s “ineffective, unnecessary border wall” and said that America does not need a barrier on the border for security. “We can secure our border without an expensive, ineffective wall,” Schumer said in his response to Trump.

It remains to be seen where this fight goes from here, but the fact that many Democrats are messaging in a very different way from Pelosi and Schumer is particularly interesting as the next stages of this battle​

They are realizing that the gruesome twosome are backing a losing cause. And being politicians they want on the winning side which ain't the gruesome twosomes.

Trumps speech hit on every point I hoped he would make. Illegal that cost the tax payers billions each year and the drugs that come across the border.

The rebuttal was lame and you can bet the voters picked up on that big time.

We will have that wall.

This is what you’ll have for $6 billion...

Nope. We save billions that illegals cost us every year.

LOLOL

Dumbfuck, that picture is what trump’s wall looks like now. It took no time for someone to cut through it was an ordinary saw.

It’s not gonna save us a dime and Mexico isn’t gonna pay for it; we are.

Wrong. The article says the wall samples were "vulnerable to breaching." It doesn't say how it was done.

LOLOL

******* moron... ”Prototype of Trump’s Wall Proves No Match for Saw”

Do you ever say anything that isn’t ******* moronic?




Ever???

 

[Faun]

LOLOL

Dumbfuck, that picture is what trump’s wall looks like now. It took no time for someone to cut through it was an ordinary saw.

Nope. Try blow torch.

Just shows we need a new, better wall.

Thanks for pointing it out pinhead.

LOLOL

That was done with a saw, rightard. You should have tapped on the picture of it...

Prototype of Trump’s Wall Proves No Match for Saw​

Nope you can see the back around the edges lefttard.

Carry on pinhead.

LOLOL

Dumbfuck, you’re saying the border patrol is lying?

No, you are the one who is lying.

Well I’m saying what the border patrol is saying. So how is it to a ******* moron like you, I’m lying but they’re not?

 

[basquebromance]

"The freshmen [Democrats] arranged an impromptu 90-minute meeting over the weekend at a retreat in Virginia because several new members were “freaking out” about the ongoing shutdown and the party’s strategy ..."

source: National Review

 

[Lesh]

They are realizing that the gruesome twosome are backing a losing cause. And being politicians they want on the winning side which ain't the gruesome twosomes.

Trumps speech hit on every point I hoped he would make. Illegal that cost the tax payers billions each year and the drugs that come across the border.

The rebuttal was lame and you can bet the voters picked up on that big time.

We will have that wall.

This is what you’ll have for $6 billion...

Nope. We save billions that illegals cost us every year.

LOLOL

Dumbfuck, that picture is what trump’s wall looks like now. It took no time for someone to cut through it was an ordinary saw.

It’s not gonna save us a dime and Mexico isn’t gonna pay for it; we are.

Wrong. The article says the wall samples were "vulnerable to breaching." It doesn't say how it was done.

LOLOL

******* moron... ”Prototype of Trump’s Wall Proves No Match for Saw”

Do you ever say anything that isn’t ******* moronic?




Ever???

When Home Depot tools will defeat the billion dollar boondoggle...the WALL is the moronic thing

 

[Pogo]

Air traffic controllers union sues Trump administration over frozen pay during shutdown

• The union representing air traffic controllers sues President Trump over shutdown.
• Air traffic controllers have been deemed essential government workers and are showing up without pay.
• The government shutdown started Dec. 22 and is one of the longest in history.

The union representing the United States’ air traffic controllers is suing the Trump administration over pay that’s frozen as part of the partial government shutdown.

The Federal Aviation Administration’s air traffic controllers are among the 420,000 federal employees who have been deemed essential and have been ordered to work without pay during the shutdown, which began on Dec. 22 due to an impasse over funding for a wall along the U.S. southern border.

Air traffic controllers union sues Trump administration over frozen pay during shutdown

So lemme get this straight....

The airlines can all make their money flying people around and the people flying can make their money by that flying around, but the people who ensure they get there alive and don't crash into each other have to work for nothing because they're "essential" to those airlines and those business travellers making their money. That about it?

Kinda like what this board calls "socialism" except that instead of everybody getting equal pay the essential people get no pay. What a great incentive to do a good job that is.

 

[william the wie]

Trump is not getting a wall unless and until he provides a case to the American people justifying the expense

Thousands of DEAD Americans justify the expense.

While true without MSM coverage 90+ of the nation have no idea that this is reality.

 

[Siete]

Air traffic controllers union sues Trump administration over frozen pay during shutdown

• The union representing air traffic controllers sues President Trump over shutdown.
• Air traffic controllers have been deemed essential government workers and are showing up without pay.
• The government shutdown started Dec. 22 and is one of the longest in history.

The union representing the United States’ air traffic controllers is suing the Trump administration over pay that’s frozen as part of the partial government shutdown.

The Federal Aviation Administration’s air traffic controllers are among the 420,000 federal employees who have been deemed essential and have been ordered to work without pay during the shutdown, which began on Dec. 22 due to an impasse over funding for a wall along the U.S. southern border.

Air traffic controllers union sues Trump administration over frozen pay during shutdown

So lemme get this straight....

The airlines can all make their money flying people around and the people flying can make their money by that flying around, but the people who ensure they get there alive and don't crash into each other have to work for nothing because they're "essential" to those airlines and those business travellers making their money. That about it?

Kinda like what this board calls "socialism" except that instead of everybody getting equal pay the essential people get no pay. What a great incentive to do a good job that is.

I can hear it now - 400 planes circling DFW International talking to each other on their radio

SouthWest flight Nineteen, you are clear to land ..

this is American flight 329 - **** SW 19, IT'S MY GODDAMN TURN

this is Delta 65 - I've been here 4 hours, **** all of you I'M LANDING RIGHT NOW !!!!!!!!

snick~

 

[boedicca]

I'm looking forward to Schumer's inevitable biography:

"Dr. Shutdown, or How I Learned To Stop Scolding and Learned To Love the Wall"

I wish I were a PhotoChopper....

 

[ABikerSailor]

You know, one of the most stressful jobs a person can have in the United States is air traffic control. I remember that when I was in the Navy, they did a study to see which job in the Navy was the most stressful, and air traffic controller topped the list.

I can only imagine how much more the stress is now that they have to wait to get their paychecks until the government reopens.

 

[boedicca]

You know, one of the most stressful jobs a person can have in the United States is air traffic control. I remember that when I was in the Navy, they did a study to see which job in the Navy was the most stressful, and air traffic controller topped the list.

I can only imagine how much more the stress is now that they have to wait to get their paychecks until the government reopens.

Not as stressful as "Murdered by an Illegal Gang Member" Corporal Singh's wife's life is right now.

Just sayin'.

 

[ABikerSailor]

You know, one of the most stressful jobs a person can have in the United States is air traffic control. I remember that when I was in the Navy, they did a study to see which job in the Navy was the most stressful, and air traffic controller topped the list.

I can only imagine how much more the stress is now that they have to wait to get their paychecks until the government reopens.

Not as stressful as "Murdered by an Illegal Gang Member" Corporal Singh's wife's life is right now.

Just sayin'.

Wow............didn't know that "murdered by an illegal gang member" was a job position. Maybe you should apply.

I didn't say anything about illegals killing anyone, I simply said that it must add more stress to an already stressful job knowing that you have to wait for the government to reopen before getting a paycheck.

 

[Pogo]

Air traffic controllers union sues Trump administration over frozen pay during shutdown

• The union representing air traffic controllers sues President Trump over shutdown.
• Air traffic controllers have been deemed essential government workers and are showing up without pay.
• The government shutdown started Dec. 22 and is one of the longest in history.

The union representing the United States’ air traffic controllers is suing the Trump administration over pay that’s frozen as part of the partial government shutdown.

The Federal Aviation Administration’s air traffic controllers are among the 420,000 federal employees who have been deemed essential and have been ordered to work without pay during the shutdown, which began on Dec. 22 due to an impasse over funding for a wall along the U.S. southern border.

Air traffic controllers union sues Trump administration over frozen pay during shutdown

So lemme get this straight....

The airlines can all make their money flying people around and the people flying can make their money by that flying around, but the people who ensure they get there alive and don't crash into each other have to work for nothing because they're "essential" to those airlines and those business travellers making their money. That about it?

Kinda like what this board calls "socialism" except that instead of everybody getting equal pay the essential people get no pay. What a great incentive to do a good job that is.

I can hear it now - 400 planes circling DFW International talking to each other on their radio

SouthWest flight Nineteen, you are clear to land ..

this is American flight 329 - **** SW 19, IT'S MY GODDAMN TURN

this is Delta 65 - I've been here 4 hours, **** all of you I'M LANDING RIGHT NOW !!!!!!!!

snick~

"United 356, you are clear to land as soon as I get paid".

 

[Dragonlady]

Trump is not getting a wall unless and until he provides a case to the American people justifying the expense

Thousands of DEAD Americans justify the expense.

Thousands of DEAD Americans don't justify restricting access to weapons. They don't necessitate something as simple as a background check to buy a mass killing weapon.

Nearly 100,000 Americans died last year because of opioid drug overprescription and yet the government has done NOTHING to curb the over-prescription of opioid pain killers, while spending billion stopping migrants from seeking asylum

There aren't "thousands of DEAD Americans", at the hands of immmigrants, unless you count the thousands killed on 9/11 by terrorists, who walked through airports with student visas in hand to enter the country. Those terrorists came in legally.

In fact, all of the numbers that Trump has been using to con you idiots into think a wall is necessary, are lies.

Trump says 63,000 Americans were killed by illegal immigrants since 9/11. The math doesn't add up

FACT CHECK: Have Undocumented Immigrants Killed 63,000 American Citizens Since 9/11?

FACT CHECK: Trump, Illegal Immigration And Crime

 

[SNAFUBARIFIC]

My ouija board is telling me that Trump is going to eventually make miss nancy regret picking up that gavel again...

 

[Timmy]

Ummmm. Did y’all miss The Don on national TV bragging that this was his shut down?

 

[22lcidw]

She is presiding over a revolt by the left wing of her party.

The shutdown is partially destroying the deep state and possibly the D donor base.

The impeachment is unstoppable and based on perjury. That runs the risk of bench warrants by the chief justice when this turkey gets to the senate.

But Nancy has become the speaker again.

What revolt? Where? Not one Democrat in the House or Senate has spoken out against her, unlike the Republican Party, which is openly critical of the President and his actions, and rightfully so.

There is no "Deep State". Never was. It's something Putin made up to explain why the Trump Administration can't get anything done. No, we're not incompetent and in chaos, it's the Deep State thwarting our agenda, undermining us at every turn. Yeah right. The moment fools like you start muttering "Deep State", the rest of the world knows you're an imbecile who will believe anything Trump says.

If the impeachment is "based on perjury" how can it be "unstoppable". The impeachment, if it happens, is based on criminal acts by the President, and members of his campaign team and his family committed at his direction and behest, and the open campaign to intimidate witnesses and end the Russia Investigation, the firings in the FBI and Justice, the dangling of pardons, and the ever changing stories.

Democrats could just drive Trump mad with investigations. It's a real short trip at this point, and there are already 17 investigations between Mueller, the people suing for emoluments, the Southern District of New York investigations into Campaign Finance violations by Trump, Cohen and the National Enquirer, the AG of New York investigating the Trump Corporation and the Trump Foundation, any number of which could see the President indicted the moment he leaves office.

Democrats could just investigate Trump to death, the way Republicans did with Hillary. Every day a steady parade of witnesses, most already in jail for Trump related crimes, testifying before Congress as to the illegal acts the President committed. His undermining of the rule of law, his money laundering, fraud and other get rich quick schemes, for the next two years. Even Ivanka would refuse to vote for him, that is if she hasn't lost her vote by being a convicted felon by 2020.

Actually there has always been literature on what is called the deep state. Some of it very conservative Christian and much secular literature. We just did not see it bloom until Trump. Pay attention to his programs. Most of them were backed by people in both parties. Now their minds are changed. You worry about his personality and his past to much. 20 years ago or so I would have, but today it doesn't matter anymore.

 

[DJT for Life]

my friends, Democrats are focused on pocketbook kitchen table issues like health care and improving infrastructure, hopefully they can end this shutdown, let Mueller be Mueller, and it'll all work out.

they ought not pay a 5 billion dollar ransom note to Trump, who is trying to fool the american people on destroying the constitution in order to fulfill a campaign promise that the great dealmaker failed to get mexico to pay for it

Pelosi already fucked that up.

She took away a main dem talking point at the last meeting.

When Trump asked her, if he opened the Government back-up with
the piece meal CR's. Would he get the money for the wall in February.

The Stupid ***** said "No!"

That destroyed their talking point of reopening the other Govt agencies
and continuing with discussions on Homeland Security.

They said the other agencies were not involved. Well, her "No" took
future Homeland Security negotiations off the table. There isn't going
to be any wall. The Government will stay shut.

Now the dems are going to have to figure out how to save face before
they have to fund the wall.

Everyday that the shutdown continues the blame spreads out to include the
Dems. Per the norm the Dems have overplayed their hand.

Pelosi isn't the one who walked out of the negotiations. Trump could have asked what she would be prepared to offer but he didn't.

Trump is not getting a wall unless and until he provides a case to the American people justifying the expense, like every other President does. Unless and until the President studies other options and proves why his wall will be worth the expense.

Thirdly, Trump just lost the House, and he lost it as a referendum on his policies. The American voter resoundly rejected both the Trump Presidency and the Republican Party's support of it, and they did so at the ballot box. Nancy Pelosi is the embodiment of the Americans voters' wishes and intentions.

Every day the shutdown continues, the American public is blaming the guy who walked out of the negotiations. The guy who has twice agreed to funding for his wall and then cancelled the deal, and who is now, single handedly refusing to sign the bills on his desk to re-open the government. Donald J. Trump.

What negotiations?

The sticking point is the wall. When she said "No!" to money for the
wall...the negotiations ended.

The Dems are going to be forced to cave in this fight.

 

[william the wie]

my friends, Democrats are focused on pocketbook kitchen table issues like health care and improving infrastructure, hopefully they can end this shutdown, let Mueller be Mueller, and it'll all work out.

they ought not pay a 5 billion dollar ransom note to Trump, who is trying to fool the american people on destroying the constitution in order to fulfill a campaign promise that the great dealmaker failed to get mexico to pay for it

Pelosi already fucked that up.

She took away a main dem talking point at the last meeting.

When Trump asked her, if he opened the Government back-up with
the piece meal CR's. Would he get the money for the wall in February.

The Stupid ***** said "No!"

That destroyed their talking point of reopening the other Govt agencies
and continuing with discussions on Homeland Security.

They said the other agencies were not involved. Well, her "No" took
future Homeland Security negotiations off the table. There isn't going
to be any wall. The Government will stay shut.

Now the dems are going to have to figure out how to save face before
they have to fund the wall.

Everyday that the shutdown continues the blame spreads out to include the
Dems. Per the norm the Dems have overplayed their hand.

Their hand is a busted flush.

Pelosi isn't the one who walked out of the negotiations. Trump could have asked what she would be prepared to offer but he didn't.

Trump is not getting a wall unless and until he provides a case to the American people justifying the expense, like every other President does. Unless and until the President studies other options and proves why his wall will be worth the expense.

Thirdly, Trump just lost the House, and he lost it as a referendum on his policies. The American voter resoundly rejected both the Trump Presidency and the Republican Party's support of it, and they did so at the ballot box. Nancy Pelosi is the embodiment of the Americans voters' wishes and intentions.

Every day the shutdown continues, the American public is blaming the guy who walked out of the negotiations. The guy who has twice agreed to funding for his wall and then cancelled the deal, and who is now, single handedly refusing to sign the bills on his desk to re-open the government. Donald J. Trump.

What negotiations?

The sticking point is the wall. When she said "No!" to money for the
wall...the negotiations ended.

The Dems are going to be forced to cave in this fight.

 

[bripat9643]

They are realizing that the gruesome twosome are backing a losing cause. And being politicians they want on the winning side which ain't the gruesome twosomes.

Trumps speech hit on every point I hoped he would make. Illegal that cost the tax payers billions each year and the drugs that come across the border.

The rebuttal was lame and you can bet the voters picked up on that big time.

We will have that wall.

This is what you’ll have for $6 billion...

Nope. We save billions that illegals cost us every year.

LOLOL

Dumbfuck, that picture is what trump’s wall looks like now. It took no time for someone to cut through it was an ordinary saw.

It’s not gonna save us a dime and Mexico isn’t gonna pay for it; we are.

Wrong. The article says the wall samples were "vulnerable to breaching." It doesn't say how it was done.

LOLOL

******* moron... ”Prototype of Trump’s Wall Proves No Match for Saw”

Do you ever say anything that isn’t ******* moronic?




Ever???

The only person who mentioned the word "saw" was the NBC reporter, you ******* dumbass.

Do you ever say anything that isn’t ******* moronic?

 

[bripat9643]

Nope. Try blow torch.

Just shows we need a new, better wall.

Thanks for pointing it out pinhead.

LOLOL

That was done with a saw, rightard. You should have tapped on the picture of it...

Prototype of Trump’s Wall Proves No Match for Saw​

Nope you can see the back around the edges lefttard.

Carry on pinhead.

LOLOL

Dumbfuck, you’re saying the border patrol is lying?

No, you are the one who is lying.

Well I’m saying what the border patrol is saying. So how is it to a ******* moron like you, I’m lying but they’re not?

No you aren't, fuckstick. You're saying what an NBC reporter said.