Office of Special Counsel Launches Investigation Into Jack Smith

[Zincwarrior]

Must distract from protecting Epstein clients!

 

[Marener]

He declassified them for himself because presidents and ex-presidents can do that, tard.
I still have that info. You won't read it, **** you.

https://ecf.dcd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc?2010cv1834-13

Bush Executive Order 13292 on Classified National Security Information

to amend executive order 12958, signed March 25, 2003

sgp.fas.org

What's his name? Tom Fitton was the one trying to get them and the courts said "No, that's Clinton's stuff".

You're confused. This case has nothing to do with security classification.

It does have some discussion about whether a record is classified as presidential or non-presidential. In this case, the tapes were deemed non-presidential records akin to diaries.

There's nothing in this case about security classification or declassification.

The court's main point in this case is that Tom Fitton can't force the Archivist to get into a fight with Clinton about whether the tapes belonged in the archives or were personal, which seems pretty obvious.

You are not nearly as smart as you think you are.

 

[The Duke]

You're confused. This case has nothing to do with security classification.

It does have some discussion about whether a record is classified as presidential or non-presidential. In this case, the tapes were deemed non-presidential records akin to diaries.

There's nothing in this case about security classification or declassification.

The court's main point in this case is that Tom Fitton can't force the Archivist to get into a fight with Clinton about whether the tapes belonged in the archives or were personal, which seems pretty obvious.

You are not nearly as smart as you think you are.

So why was Biden's archivist fighting with Trump about his personal records?
Why did they refer it to the DOJ? That was definitely out of line right there.
The precedent had already been set, boy.
Even if I was to lose all the bookmarks, I learned about all this years ago.
Archivists are not over presidents.
That archivist and her crew are not there anymore, now are they?

 

[WEATHER53]

And have had possession of for years.

When all other Prez do same

 

[Marener]

So why was Biden's archivist fighting with Trump about his personal records?
Why did they refer it to the DOJ? That was definitely out of line right there.
The precedent had already been set, boy.
Even if I was to lose all the bookmarks I learned about all this years ago.
Archivists are not over presidents.

Ha! No one thinks those were personal records. You’d have to be a moron to see a DoD document about foreign nation’s nuclear capabilities with classification markings all over it and think “oh this is personal”.

That’s ******* delusional.

They referred it to the DoJ because those documents were classified government records. Not personal.

 

[Foxfyre]

Must distract from protecting Epstein clients!

Are you leftists so desperate to keep Epstein alive because you're afraid you won't be able to see all those salacious photos and videos of minor girls? Your fixation on that and determination to force it into every thread however inappropriate is a bit disturbing.

 

[WEATHER53]

You're confused. This case has nothing to do with security classification.

It does have some discussion about whether a record is classified as presidential or non-presidential. In this case, the tapes were deemed non-presidential records akin to diaries.

There's nothing in this case about security classification or declassification.

The court's main point in this case is that Tom Fitton can't force the Archivist to get into a fight with Clinton about whether the tapes belonged in the archives or were personal, which seems pretty obvious.

You are not nearly as smart as you think you are.

It’s fake to start off by stating “You are confused” it’s presumptuous and you are not smart enough . It’s a fake attempt to discredit without presenting any fact info counterpoint

 

[The Duke]

Ha! No one thinks those were personal records. You’d have to be a moron to see a DoD document about foreign nation’s nuclear capabilities with classification markings all over it and think “oh this is personal”.

That’s ******* delusional.

They referred it to the DoJ because those documents were classified government records. Not personal.

The only thing wrong was the corrupt Biden Administration and their underlings, shitbird.
Jack Smith might go to prison.

 

[Marener]

It’s fake to start off by stating “You are confused” it’s presumptuous and you are not smart enough . It’s a fake attempt to discredit without presenting any fact info counterpoint

The counterpoint and facts came immediately after the “confused” remark.

Did you stop reading and race to make this useless point after reading the first two sentences of my post?

 

[Marener]

The only thing wrong was the corrupt Biden Administration and their underlings, shitbird.

You aren’t able to respond to my point with an actual factual rebuttal so you served up some pathetic slop like this.

The Clinton case had nothing to do with security classification. Are you ready to admit that?

You want to talk about how stupid it would be to claim that the classified government documents in Trump’s basement are personal?

 

[The Duke]

Ha! No one thinks those were personal records. You’d have to be a moron to see a DoD document about foreign nation’s nuclear capabilities with classification markings all over it and think “oh this is personal”.

That’s ******* delusional.

They referred it to the DoJ because those documents were classified government records. Not personal.

Nope!

Cook v. Nat'l Archives & Records Admin., No. 13-1228 (2d Cir. 2014)

Plaintiff filed suit under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. 552, seeking disclosure of records held by NARA of archived presidential and vice-presidential materials submitted by or on behalf of former President George W. Bush and former Vice-President Richard B. Cheney. The court...

law.justia.com

Presidents have broad powers to deem whatever they want personal of for their library.
Only when a bunch of corrupt traitors got into our government did that change.

 

[WEATHER53]

The counterpoint and facts came immediately after the “confused” remark.

Did you stop reading and race to make this useless point after reading the first two sentences of my post?

Present your countering points instead of a bunch of “did you read” bullshit

 

[The Duke]

Ha! No one thinks those were personal records. You’d have to be a moron to see a DoD document about foreign nation’s nuclear capabilities with classification markings all over it and think “oh this is personal”.

That’s ******* delusional.

They referred it to the DoJ because those documents were classified government records. Not personal.

Bandwagon fallacy, and there's nobody on your bandwagon!
"One of the most common versions is the bandwagon fallacy, in which the arguer tries to convince the audience to do or believe something because everyone else (supposedly) does."

Fallacies – The Writing Center

What this handout is about This handout discusses common logical fallacies that you may encounter in your own writing or the writing of others. The handout provides definitions, examples, and tips on avoiding these fallacies. Arguments Most academic writing tasks … Read more

writingcenter.unc.edu

 

[WorldWatcher]

So, he didn't actually give secret information to a foreign power.

How did he prevent the counting?

Check the espionage law under which he was charged.

It has to do with refusing to return national defense information. Nothing to do with giving it to a foreign power. The cited law has to do with refusing to return it to the rightful owner - The United States Givernment.

WW

 

[WorldWatcher]

Presidential Records Act. Oh, you forgot about that one! Convenient oversight?

The second never happened on this planet. Maybe in your fantasy world, perhaps.

The Presidential Records Act does not allow an ex-president to take national defense records as his personal property.

As a matter of fact it very clearly says official records are re property of the government and are to be turned over to the National Archivist at three end of a presidential term.

WW

 

[Marener]

Nope!

Cook v. Nat'l Archives & Records Admin., No. 13-1228 (2d Cir. 2014)

Plaintiff filed suit under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. 552, seeking disclosure of records held by NARA of archived presidential and vice-presidential materials submitted by or on behalf of former President George W. Bush and former Vice-President Richard B. Cheney. The court...

law.justia.com

Presidents have broad powers to deem whatever they want personal of for their library.
Only when a bunch of corrupt traitors got into our government did that change.

Your link doesn't say shit about powers to deem documents as personal or not.

And personal documents aren't for the library, dipshit. The Archives runs the library so if they wanted the documents for the library, they wouldn't make them personal.

You'd have to be pretty ******* delusional to pull out a DoD record with classification markings about a plan to invade Iran and think to yourself "well that looks personal". Do you expect people to be that delusional?

 

[WorldWatcher]

Stealing classified documents. Fraud. Obstruction of justice.

Why are you asking me? Did you not follow the case at all? It’s all public.

Trump wasn’t charged with stealing the classified documents.

He was charged with failing to return them when ordered and for instruction a federal subpoena.

Very different things.

WW

 

[Marener]

Bandwagon fallacy, and there's nobody on your bandwagon!
"One of the most common versions is the bandwagon fallacy, in which the arguer tries to convince the audience to do or believe something because everyone else (supposedly) does."

Fallacies – The Writing Center

What this handout is about This handout discusses common logical fallacies that you may encounter in your own writing or the writing of others. The handout provides definitions, examples, and tips on avoiding these fallacies. Arguments Most academic writing tasks … Read more

writingcenter.unc.edu

Be my guest and explain why someone would consider such a document to be personal.

Go ahead. Try it.

You can't because it's ******* stupid.

 

[The Duke]

Trump wasn’t charged with stealing the classified documents.

He was charged with failing to return them when ordered and for instruction a federal subpoena.

Very different things.

WW

The question is: Why was he "ordered"?
That never happened before, furriner boy. Also the Biden Administration stripped Trump's Executive privilege
and signed off on all that shit or else it would not have. At all.
The Biden Administration signed off on it to get that ball rolling, it was a pre-planned hit.
Corruption of government. I hope traitors hang and go to prison.

 

[Blisterfinger]

The revenge presidency continues.

No surprises here.

It's more like the Justice presidency. There I fixed it for you