Obama's poll numbers down, Imaginary racism up

[daveman]

And Wicked Jester my grandmother doesn't like black people, but she is a die hard liberal, and still voted for a black man. So your little theory doesn't work.

My in-laws are staunch Democrats, and refused to vote for "that n----r".

Looks like my anecdotal evidence cancels out yours.

 

[DiveCon]

funny thing too about calling obama a socialist, nobody can really name how.

He's signed only pro-gun legislation into office. he's nominating someone who is a likely conservative for the supreme court. he's deporting more illegals than ever. The stimulus was 40% tax cuts. Health bill has no public option. He's ramped up the war in afghanistan, and we're still in iraq. Still have a war on drugs. Still got the patriot act and fisa.

Only difference is he doesn't have a r next to his name. If he did, republicans would love him.

who?????

and i'd like to see proof on that "deporting more illegals than ever" claim
and the patriot act gives him all those powers you guys were scared Bush was abusing

 

[daveman]

Kind of sucks being lumped into a group you don't belong in, doesn't it?

if you dont like it, why are you doing it?

Because I am pissed off, and you happen to be posting.

And leftists claim not to be ruled by emotion.

 

[Modbert]

who?????

Law.com - Supreme Court Watchers Wonder: How Conservative Is Kagan?

But that favored position has also made her an easy target, especially for liberals who warn she is too conservative to follow in Stevens' progressive footsteps.

She seems to be a Conservative or least a Moderate politically. However, she's replacing Stevens, the most Liberal member of the SCOTUS. So no matter what, the court is going to move more to the right no matter what.

 

[Modbert]

and i'd like to see proof on that "deporting more illegals than ever" claim
and the patriot act gives him all those powers you guys were scared Bush was abusing

washingtonpost.com

The Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency expects to deport about 400,000 people this fiscal year, nearly 10 percent above the Bush administration's 2008 total and 25 percent more than were deported in 2007. The pace of company audits has roughly quadrupled since President George W. Bush's final year in office.

There's your proof. As for the Patriot Act, further proof he's not only not Liberal.

 

[syrenn]

The same people who are opposing Obama for his policies didn't oppose Bush for the exact same policies. It's not terribly surprising though.

And don't you think that is the problem Modbert? Wasn't it obama who said he was going to be different? Isn't all of that what got obama elected?

Could it be that the people who hoped for the promised obama change are seeing the lies now? Could it be that the emperor clothes are off and everyone can see that he is no different than bush?

 

[Luissa]

And Wicked Jester my grandmother doesn't like black people, but she is a die hard liberal, and still voted for a black man. So your little theory doesn't work.

My in-laws are staunch Democrats, and refused to vote for "that n----r".

Looks like my anecdotal evidence cancels out yours.

 

[daveman]

See I would believe you guys were not racist, if you didn't think he was born in Kenya, you didn't have signs with him as a witch doctor or other racial terms on them.

Do you really think everyone on the right believes that? If so, why?

I also could believe it a little more if you guys didn't start bitching the day he took office, and if you didn't call him a socialist.
I think when you guys call him a socialist, I think that is when I know the reason you don't like him is not because of his politics. The man is so far from being a socialist, which makes it quite hilarious when you guys throw that word around. Another favorite is when someone calls him a communist, and in the next sentence calls him Hitler, then calls accuses him of catering to Unions. You guys either need to own your racism, or learn what a socialist is.

Ahhh. So now "socialist" is a hidden racial slur.

Well, that's handy.

i guess that 55% of likely voters are all racists then

however did a black man win??????
boggles the mind

Don't ask Luissa's "logic" to actually be logical.

 

[daveman]

Funny thing too about calling Obama a Socialist, nobody can really name how.

He's signed only Pro-Gun legislation into office. He's nominating someone who is a likely Conservative for the Supreme Court. He's deporting more illegals than ever. The stimulus was 40% tax cuts. Health bill has no Public Option. He's ramped up the War in Afghanistan, and we're still in Iraq. Still have a War on Drugs. Still got the Patriot Act and FISA.

Only difference is he doesn't have a R next to his name. If he did, Republicans would love him.

Impossible. He's black, right?

 

[Luissa]

if you dont like it, why are you doing it?

Because I am pissed off, and you happen to be posting.

And leftists claim not to be ruled by emotion.

putting more words in our mouth? You guys are fucking hilarious!

 

[daveman]

And Wicked Jester my grandmother doesn't like black people, but she is a die hard liberal, and still voted for a black man. So your little theory doesn't work.

My in-laws are staunch Democrats, and refused to vote for "that n----r".

Looks like my anecdotal evidence cancels out yours.

Their words, not mine.

 

[daveman]

Because I am pissed off, and you happen to be posting.

And leftists claim not to be ruled by emotion.

putting more words in our mouth? You guys are fucking hilarious!

No, I'm going by what you said yourself. In this very thread, you said you're jumping on someone because you're pissed off, and that you hate the right.

Emotion. That's all you've got.

 

[Modbert]

And don't you think that is the problem Modbert? Wasn't it obama who said he was going to be different? Isn't all of that what got obama elected?

Could it be that the people who hoped for the promised obama change are seeing the lies now? Could it be that the emperor clothes are off and everyone can see that he is no different than bush?

At the end of the day, Obama is a politician. He has his corporate interests and all. I was hoping for a little change, but in reality their policies have not been much different across the board. I'm willing to bet nobody can name 5 major policies where Obama differs from Bush. Yet, the same people who supported Bush twice are now calling him a socialist. The partisan hackery astounds me at times.

 

[DiveCon]

and i'd like to see proof on that "deporting more illegals than ever" claim
and the patriot act gives him all those powers you guys were scared Bush was abusing

washingtonpost.com

The Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency expects to deport about 400,000 people this fiscal year, nearly 10 percent above the Bush administration's 2008 total and 25 percent more than were deported in 2007. The pace of company audits has roughly quadrupled since President George W. Bush's final year in office.

There's your proof. As for the Patriot Act, further proof he's not only not Liberal.

uh, that story does not confirm what you said
it compares to 2008 & 2007



FAIL

 

[Modbert]

uh, that story does not confirm what you said
it compares to 2008 & 2007



FAIL

Not fail. We're deporting more illegals than ever. If you want to play the weak semantics game Dive and take "than ever" as literal then be my guest. However, Obama is stepping up and deporting more illegals by more than 25% than Bush did in 2007. These are numbers you cannot deny.

Though perhaps you could show me other years where we deported 400,000 illegals. I'll wait.

 

[Luissa]

And leftists claim not to be ruled by emotion.

putting more words in our mouth? You guys are fucking hilarious!

No, I'm going by what you said yourself. In this very thread, you said you're jumping on someone because you're pissed off, and that you hate the right.

Emotion. That's all you've got.

Please show me where I said we are not ruled by emotions? Everyone is ruled by emotions. Plus I am a woman, and it is stupid to suggest I would not be ruled by emotions. lol

And to be honest, I am ruled by headache from too many tequila shots last night.

 

[daveman]

putting more words in our mouth? You guys are fucking hilarious!

No, I'm going by what you said yourself. In this very thread, you said you're jumping on someone because you're pissed off, and that you hate the right.

Emotion. That's all you've got.

Please show me where I said we are not ruled by emotions? Everyone is ruled by emotions. Plus I am a woman, and it is stupid to suggest I would not be ruled by emotions. lol

I said "the left", not you individually, although you've served as an outstanding example.

And to be honest, I am ruled by headache from too many tequila shots last night.

That'll do it.

 

[DiveCon]

uh, that story does not confirm what you said
it compares to 2008 & 2007



FAIL

Not fail. We're deporting more illegals than ever. If you want to play the weak semantics game Dive and take "than ever" as literal then be my guest. However, Obama is stepping up and deporting more illegals by more than 25% than Bush did in 2007. These are numbers you cannot deny.

Though perhaps you could show me other years where we deported 400,000 illegals. I'll wait.

i'm not the one that made the claim
YOU did

and no one said Bush was good on deporting, so thats nothing but a strawman

 

[DiveCon]

putting more words in our mouth? You guys are fucking hilarious!

No, I'm going by what you said yourself. In this very thread, you said you're jumping on someone because you're pissed off, and that you hate the right.

Emotion. That's all you've got.

Please show me where I said we are not ruled by emotions? Everyone is ruled by emotions. Plus I am a woman, and it is stupid to suggest I would not be ruled by emotions. lol

And to be honest, I am ruled by headache from too many tequila shots last night.

AH, that explains it even better

 

[Modbert]

i'm not the one that made the claim
YOU did

and no one said Bush was good on deporting, so thats nothing but a strawman

However, people are claiming that Obama is bad at deporting. Yet the numbers show otherwise.

I did make the claim, and you didn't disprove it.