Obamagate. This is getting ugly.

[postman]

It is still illegal to listen in once it is identified the party is a U.S. citizen. PERIOD. So that's a crime as is divulging the content's of the wiretap.

NOPE. If that were true, all the bad guys would have to do, is call up an American phone number, and have them hand the phone over to their ISIS agent.

 

[jc456]

How exactly then did The Washington Post get a verbatim transcript of Flynn's conversations in Trump Tower?
How was The FBI able to review this information and determine Flynn did nothing wrong?
FBI reviewed Flynn’s calls with Russian ambassador but found nothing illicit

OMFG!
Are you really this retarded?

The communications of Russian officials are monitored.

If you call them, your communications with them then are part of that monitoring.


From your own link:

"The calls were picked up as part of routine electronic surveillance of Russian officials and agents in the United States, which is one of the FBI’s responsibilities, according to the U.S. officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss counterintelligence operations."


Dope.

dude, one can only listen to one side or the other unless they are on site at the phone drop site. so do you wish to try again?

WTF are you attempting to say?

do you know that phone transmissions consist of two directions (four wire) except at the drop side where the four wires are converted to two wires? Do you know telecommunications? I do.

Absolutely and completely wrong.
I used to work for the phone company, dope.
Dial tone comes in on a single pair of wires. Tip and ring.
That's two wires.

Most surveillance is done from within the switch now. Not at the location. The numbers to be monitored are routed to some connection, either a trunk line, data circuit or via the internet, to an off site server operated by the investigating authority that records and catalogues the calls.

well then you didn't know your job. the two wire drop is the only location where there is two wires. Perhaps you should go read up on telecommunications, T1, T3 Optical DWDM Long Haul. ever hear of echo? can't have a long two wire line. go look up echo on the internet on telephone transmissions. There is a transmit tip and ring and there is a receive tip and ring. read up bubba.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

what's your point here? All you need to know is where the target was, and Michael Flynn was at trump tower. Now if someone was monitoring the ambassador, then only that part of the line coming from his transmitter/ mouth piece would be tapped. not Flynn's transmitter.

Look at your telephone cable, they only use the red and the green wires..

Doing your own telephone wiring

In either case, the important point is this: one phone line only requires two of these strands. In the vast majority of cases, the other two wires go unused

Which means you're picking up both sides of the conversation from those two wires.

too funny, only at the drops is it two wire. at the Central Office it is four wire. There are actually electronics that convert the four wires to two wires at the drops as I STATED in one of my post already stupid fk.

It's a single pair at the CO as well dope.
The frame jumper is two wires from the line equipment to the cable pair. It's a single pair all the way to the customer.

 

[jc456]

It is still illegal to listen in once it is identified the party is a U.S. citizen. PERIOD. So that's a crime as is divulging the content's of the wiretap.

NOPE. If that were true, all the bad guys would have to do, is call up an American phone number, and have them hand the phone over to their ISIS agent.

huh?

 

[jc456]

what's your point here? All you need to know is where the target was, and Michael Flynn was at trump tower. Now if someone was monitoring the ambassador, then only that part of the line coming from his transmitter/ mouth piece would be tapped. not Flynn's transmitter.

Look at your telephone cable, they only use the red and the green wires..

Doing your own telephone wiring

In either case, the important point is this: one phone line only requires two of these strands. In the vast majority of cases, the other two wires go unused

Which means you're picking up both sides of the conversation from those two wires.

too funny, only at the drops is it two wire. at the Central Office it is four wire. There are actually electronics that convert the four wires to two wires at the drops as I STATED in one of my post already stupid fk.

It's a single pair at the CO as well dope.
The frame jumper is two wires from the line equipment to the cable pair. It's a single pair all the way to the customer.

no it isn't. There are cabinets in the field, pedestals they're called. it's where the conversions take place.

Two-wire circuit - Wikipedia

"In either case they are twisted pairs. Telephone lines are almost all two wire, while trunks and switching are almost entirely four wire. To communicate in both directions in the same wire pair, conversion between four-wire and two-wire is necessary, both at the telephone and at the central office. A hybrid coil accomplishes the conversion for both. At the central office, it is part of a four-wire terminating set, more often as part of a line card."

 

[Hutch Starskey]

OMFG!
Are you really this retarded?

The communications of Russian officials are monitored.

If you call them, your communications with them then are part of that monitoring.


From your own link:

"The calls were picked up as part of routine electronic surveillance of Russian officials and agents in the United States, which is one of the FBI’s responsibilities, according to the U.S. officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss counterintelligence operations."


Dope.

dude, one can only listen to one side or the other unless they are on site at the phone drop site. so do you wish to try again?

WTF are you attempting to say?

do you know that phone transmissions consist of two directions (four wire) except at the drop side where the four wires are converted to two wires? Do you know telecommunications? I do.

Absolutely and completely wrong.
I used to work for the phone company, dope.
Dial tone comes in on a single pair of wires. Tip and ring.
That's two wires.

Most surveillance is done from within the switch now. Not at the location. The numbers to be monitored are routed to some connection, either a trunk line, data circuit or via the internet, to an off site server operated by the investigating authority that records and catalogues the calls.

well then you didn't know your job. the two wire drop is the only location where there is two wires. Perhaps you should go read up on telecommunications, T1, T3 Optical DWDM Long Haul. ever hear of echo? can't have a long two wire line. go look up echo on the internet on telephone transmissions. There is a transmit tip and ring and there is a receive tip and ring. read up bubba.

^ This guy has absolutely no idea what he is saying.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

what's your point here? All you need to know is where the target was, and Michael Flynn was at trump tower. Now if someone was monitoring the ambassador, then only that part of the line coming from his transmitter/ mouth piece would be tapped. not Flynn's transmitter.

Look at your telephone cable, they only use the red and the green wires..

Doing your own telephone wiring

In either case, the important point is this: one phone line only requires two of these strands. In the vast majority of cases, the other two wires go unused

Which means you're picking up both sides of the conversation from those two wires.

too funny, only at the drops is it two wire. at the Central Office it is four wire. There are actually electronics that convert the four wires to two wires at the drops as I STATED in one of my post already stupid fk.

It's a single pair at the CO as well dope.
The frame jumper is two wires from the line equipment to the cable pair. It's a single pair all the way to the customer.

no it isn't. There are cabinets in the field, pedestals they're called. it's where the conversions take place.

Bullshit.
There's only one pair assigned to an individual line.

 

[postman]

too funny, only at the drops is it two wire. at the Central Office it is four wire. There are actually electronics that convert the four wires to two wires at the drops as I STATED in one of my post already stupid fk.

Actually between the central offices there are no wires wires, it's all fiber optic. And when it was copper, they used 24 channel frames. Going from the central office to the customer, it's only two wires. So monitoring is done at the outgoing distribution panel. And if the guy has DSL, they can monitor his internet from the same point.

 

[jc456]

too funny, only at the drops is it two wire. at the Central Office it is four wire. There are actually electronics that convert the four wires to two wires at the drops as I STATED in one of my post already stupid fk.

Actually between the central offices there are no wires wires, it's all fiber optic. And when it was copper, they used 24 channel frames. Going from the central office to the customer, it's only two wires. So monitoring is done at the outgoing distribution panel. And if the guy has DSL, they can monitor his internet from the same point.

read up on T1, T3. you're correct most lines are now optics. still four wire. one pair transmit the other receive.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Yet butt hurt cucks think Obama spied on Trump but have no proof.

And yet lack of proof doesn't stop you from running with your ridiculous Russia hacked the election stupidity.

You condemn me with your own self condemnation using the Rush Limbaugh mirror tactic: accuse others of what you are doing.

 

[jc456]

Yet butt hurt cucks think Obama spied on Trump but have no proof.

And yet lack of proof doesn't stop you from running with your ridiculous Russia hacked the election stupidity.

You condemn me with your own self condemnation using the Rush Limbaugh mirror tactic: accuse others of what you are doing.

sure we do, it's been four fking months and you've posted absolutely nothing.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Yet butt hurt cucks think Obama spied on Trump but have no proof.

well sure we know, all we need to tell you is that Michael Flynn was at trump towers when he was tapped. check mate son.

Obama spied on no one, as you have admitted. Flynn was a legitimate target of the FBI and the intel services.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Yet butt hurt cucks think Obama spied on Trump but have no proof.

And yet lack of proof doesn't stop you from running with your ridiculous Russia hacked the election stupidity.

You condemn me with your own self condemnation using the Rush Limbaugh mirror tactic: accuse others of what you are doing.

sure we do, it's been four fking months and you've posted absolutely nothing.

And you continue to condemn for what you are doing, jc456.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

what's your point here? All you need to know is where the target was, and Michael Flynn was at trump tower. Now if someone was monitoring the ambassador, then only that part of the line coming from his transmitter/ mouth piece would be tapped. not Flynn's transmitter.

Look at your telephone cable, they only use the red and the green wires..

Doing your own telephone wiring

In either case, the important point is this: one phone line only requires two of these strands. In the vast majority of cases, the other two wires go unused

Which means you're picking up both sides of the conversation from those two wires.

too funny, only at the drops is it two wire. at the Central Office it is four wire. There are actually electronics that convert the four wires to two wires at the drops as I STATED in one of my post already stupid fk.

It's a single pair at the CO as well dope.
The frame jumper is two wires from the line equipment to the cable pair. It's a single pair all the way to the customer.

no it isn't. There are cabinets in the field, pedestals they're called. it's where the conversions take place.

Two-wire circuit - Wikipedia

"In either case they are twisted pairs. Telephone lines are almost all two wire, while trunks and switching are almost entirely four wire. To communicate in both directions in the same wire pair, conversion between four-wire and two-wire is necessary, both at the telephone and at the central office. A hybrid coil accomplishes the conversion for both. At the central office, it is part of a four-wire terminating set, more often as part of a line card."

We're talking about plain old telephone lines at the customer, not trunk lines, moron.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

too funny, only at the drops is it two wire. at the Central Office it is four wire. There are actually electronics that convert the four wires to two wires at the drops as I STATED in one of my post already stupid fk.

Actually between the central offices there are no wires wires, it's all fiber optic. And when it was copper, they used 24 channel frames. Going from the central office to the customer, it's only two wires. So monitoring is done at the outgoing distribution panel. And if the guy has DSL, they can monitor his internet from the same point.

^ This man knows what he's talking about.

JC doesn't even use the proper industry vocabulary.

 

[postman]

read up on T1, T3. you're correct most lines are now optics. still four wire. one pair transmit the other receive.

In fiber optic, you have one line for transmit and one line for receive. But after going through the demux it's converted to individual two wire pairs for the individual phone lines. From the central office to the residence only two wires are used. Whether its phone or DSL&phone.

Everything is carried on just those two wires.

 

[postman]

^ This man knows what he's talking about.

JC doesn't even use the proper industry vocabulary.

I don't fault somebody for not knowing the industry jargon. But he's clueless about his own telephone line. Going back a long time, the Racal Milgo 4 wire modems, all of 19.2 K baud, needed two telephone lines. So he's stuck in the 1980's.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

too funny, only at the drops is it two wire. at the Central Office it is four wire. There are actually electronics that convert the four wires to two wires at the drops as I STATED in one of my post already stupid fk.

Actually between the central offices there are no wires wires, it's all fiber optic. And when it was copper, they used 24 channel frames. Going from the central office to the customer, it's only two wires. So monitoring is done at the outgoing distribution panel. And if the guy has DSL, they can monitor his internet from the same point.

read up on T1, T3. you're correct most lines are now optics. still four wire. one pair transmit the other receive.

No.

A T1 is a high-speed data circuit. It doesn't carry dial tone it carries digital data over 24 channels of 56K each.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

^ This man knows what he's talking about.

JC doesn't even use the proper industry vocabulary.

I don't fault somebody for not knowing the industry jargon. But he's clueless about his own telephone line. Going back a long time, the Racal Milgo 4 wire modems, all of 19.2 K baud, needed two telephone lines. So he's stuck in the 1980's.

That's an old data circuit. Those were used mostly for off site monitoring of equipment.
Railroads used alot of them. They had to be manually aligned by sending tone across the circuit.

 

[bendog]

The media is doing the usual deflection. Focus on stupid crap to avoid looking at the serious problem.

Looks like the Obama administration was more interested in spying on citizens and allies than on enemies. No wonder he was pushing for Hillary to win. He knew she'd cover this up.

“The agency’s hacking division freed it from having to disclose its often controversial operations to the NSA (its primary bureaucratic rival) in order to draw on the NSA’s hacking capacities.

By the end of 2016, the CIA’s hacking division, which formally falls under the agency’s Center for Cyber Intelligence (CCI), had over 5000 registered users and had produced more than a thousand hacking systems, trojans, viruses, and other “weaponized” malware. Such is the scale of the CIA’s undertaking that by 2016, its hackers had utilized more code than that used to run Facebook. The CIA had created, in effect, its “own NSA” with even less accountability and without publicly answering the question as to whether such a massive budgetary spend on duplicating the capacities of a rival agency could be justified.”

There’s more. All those Democrat accusations of Russians ‘hacking our election’? Guess what:

“Among the key topical revelations is that the CIA can engage in “false flag” cyberattacks which portray Russia as the assailant. Discussing the CIA’s Remote Devices Branch’s UMBRAGE group, Wikileaks’ source notes that it “collects and maintains a substantial library of attack techniques ‘stolen’ from malware produced in other states including the Russian Federation.

“With UMBRAGE and related projects the CIA cannot only increase its total number of attack types but also misdirect attribution by leaving behind the “fingerprints” of the groups that the attack techniques were stolen from. UMBRAGE components cover keyloggers, password collection, webcam capture, data destruction,….”
In other words they can do it but leave behind footprints that lead to Russia and not to the (Obama) CIA.
Believe it or not that’s still not the worst of it. Anyone ever call you paranoid because you’re afraid all these new ‘smart devices’ may be a bit too smart and can be used as spying instruments? Well your paranoia was justified:

“Among the various techniques profiled by WikiLeaks is “Weeping Angel”, developed by the CIA’s Embedded Devices Branch (EDB), which infests smart TVs, transforming them into covert microphones. After infestation, Weeping Angel places the target TV in a ‘Fake-Off’ mode, so that the owner falsely believes the TV is off when it is on. In ‘Fake-Off’ mode the TV operates as a bug, recording conversations in the room and sending them over the Internet to a covert CIA server.”

Wikileaks drops BOMBSHELL about "Russian" hacking

"This new scandal is titled as “Obamagate.” WikiLeaks revealed that Obama has made quite the history of wiretapping and hacking political opponents and friends alike. What a bombshell!!!

WikiLeaks made a list of all of Obama’s wire taps:

– The US National Security Agency bugged a private climate change strategy meeting; between UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon and German Chancellor Angela Merkel in Berlin;

– Obama bugged Chief of Staff of UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) for long term interception targetting his Swiss phone;

– Obama singled out the Director of the Rules Division of the World Trade Organisation (WTO), Johann Human, and targetted his Swiss phone for long term interception;

-Obama stole sensitive Italian diplomatic cables detailing how Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu implored Italy’s Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi to help patch up his relationship with US President Barack Obama, who was refusing to talk to Netanyahu;

– Obama intercepted top EU and Japanese trade ministers discussing their secret strategy and red lines to stop the US “extort[ing]” them at the WTO Doha arounds (the talks subsequently collapsed);

– Obama explicitly targeted five other top EU economic officials for long term interception, including their French, Austrian and Belgium phone numbers;

– Obama explicitly targetted the phones of Italy’s ambassador to NATO and other top Italian officials for long term interception;

-Obama intercepted details of a critical private meeting between then French president Nicolas Sarkozy, Merkel and Berluscon, where the latter was told the Italian banking system was ready to “pop like a cork”.
Obama also wiretapped individuals in the US media which weren’t praising him:

– In 2013 the liberal Washington Post expressed outrage after the revelation that the Justice Department had investigated the newsgathering activities of a Fox News reporter as a potential crime in a probe of classified leaks. The reporter, Fox News’ James Rosen and his family, were part of an investigation into government officials anonymously leaking information to journalists. Rosen was not charged but his movements and actions were tracked.

– Also in 2013, members of the Associated Press were also a target of the surveillance. The ultra liberal New Yorker even noted that “In moderate and liberal circles, at least, the phone-records scandal, partly because it involves the dear old A.P. and partly because it raises anew the specter of Big Brother, may well present the most serious threat to Obama’s reputation.”

– Reporter Sharyl Attkisson said in 2014 that her personal computer and CBS laptop were hacked after she began filing stories about Benghazi that were unflattering to the Obama administration. A source who checked her laptop said the hacker used spyware “proprietary to a government agency,” according to an article in the New York Post."

BOMBSHELL: Assange Just Exposed Obama's Wiretapping ‘Victim List’ - ‘Obamagate’ Blows Wide Open!

JFC, Obama hacked Trump's TV! This explains EVERYTHING