ObamaCare: The Bolshevik Fallacy

[debbiedowner]

1. If insight and experience had ever been used, ObamaCare would have been tossed aside from the start.
There are so many things wrong with the entire concept that those opposed hardly imagined that it would even gain a foothold on the public's imagination.

No she doesn't and all I saw was dates before obamacare.



2. First.....ObamaCare is not healthcare....it's healthcare insurance. President Reagan saw to it that every human being, legal or otherwise, in our country had healthcare in 1986.
"The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA)[1] is an act of the United States Chttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Medical_Treatment_and_Active_Labor_Actongress, passed in 1986..."



3. The Left, American's Bolsheviks, inflated the numbers in need of insurance. Rather than disrupting the entire industry identify the 8-10 million who need and are unable to get healthcare, including those with pre-existing conditions,and provide debit cards as is done for food stamps:

"Food debit cards help 27 million people buy food, similar to the number who need help buying health coverage. In all fifty states, debit card technology has transformed the federal food stamp program, which used to be notorious for fraud and abuse. (Only 2 percent of card users are found to be ineligible, according to the General Accounting Office.) Cards are loaded with a specific dollar amount monthly, depending on family size and income, and allow cardholders to shop anywhere. The same strategy could be adapted to provide purchasing power to families who need help buying high-deductible health coverage. It's what all Americans used to buy (see chart 5), and it's all that's needed for families with moderate incomes, who can afford a routine doctor visit. "
Downgrading Health Care
Downgrading Medical Care



4. Polls of the vast majority with healthcare insurance, 90-95%, were more than satisfied with their insurance.

"So, while one poll with unique wording pegged satisfaction at 95 percent, the average of all relevant polls over a two-year period was eight points lower than what Will cited. However, Will is correct that the levels of satisfaction with one's own health insurance are consistently high. Indeed, they're extraordinarily high, when one considers how rarely surveys find such high levels of agreement among Americans. Since Will portrayed the larger point accurately, even while modestly overstating the number, we rate his comment Mostly True."
Will says that 95 percent of people with health insurance are satisfied with it



5. Based on the amount lost on ObamaCare exchanges..
"The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo"
The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo -- The Motley Fool...
...the government could simply have given a debit card loaded with $15,000 to every one of the 10 million who couldn't afford insurance.



Soooo....who are the history-challenged dopes who bought the scam?

Reliable Democrat Voters

Raise your paws.



out of pocket expenses more
bolsheviks
most were happy with coverage

1.The GOP has found out that it can not be replaced overnight without costing them their job and future elections..So they are hating it , instead of fixing the problems.

2.Too many people want and need Obamacare insurance so the 90-95% is wrong

3.Not one of those GOP mention how they are paid off by Big Pharma, and Medical hacks, so of coarse they are slamming Obamacare.

4.Obamacare needs work, the mandate is gone so what the heck are the ones hating it still complaining for?

5. Like Harley said they don't want to, nor do they mention how much it is costing us for the uninsured to use the ER and then skip the high bill

6. I feel that Obamacare was created for the very ill, before Obamacare people were losing their life savings, and homes and once the funds were gone they stopped treatment and the people died. This is why the premiums are high

7.I pay over $3,000 a month for my insurance which is much better than paying over $700.000 + X 2 after getting sick with cancer.

8.Plus they cannot find a little tiny reason to kick me off anymore , like they did millions of people

9. My son's are both in college ( one is a Type 1 diabetic ) so I am glad that they can stay on my health insurance until they get a good job.

.

"2.Too many people want and need Obamacare insurance so the 90-95% is wrong."

Really?

"When we started this health care debate a year ago, 85 percent of the American people had health insurance, and 95 percent of the 85 percent were happy with it."
— George Will on Sunday, February 21st, 2010 in a roundtable segment on ABC's This Week"
Will says that 95 percent of people with health insurance are satisfied with it PolitiFact



Here's what we found, poll by poll, in reverse chronological order:

• Quinnipiac University, Sept. 2009. "How satisfied are you with your health insurance plan?" 54 percent very satisfied, 34 percent somewhat.Total: 88 percent satisfaction.

• Quinnipiac University, June 2009. "How satisfied are you with your health insurance plan?" 49 percent very satisfied, 36 somewhat satisfied.Total: 85 percent satisfaction.

• ABC News/Washington Post, June 2009. "For each specific item I name, please tell me whether you are very satisfied with it, somewhat satisfied, somewhat dissatisfied or very dissatisfied. ... Your health insurance coverage." 42 percent very satisfied, 39 percent somewhat satisfied. Total: 81 percent satisfaction.

• Mathew Greenwald & Associates for the Employee Benefit Research Institute, May 2009. "Overall, how satisfied are you with your current health insurance plan?" 21 percent extremely satisfied, 37 percent very satisfied, 30 percent somewhat satisfied. Total: 88 percent satisfaction.

• ABC News/Washington Post, June 2009. "For each specific item I name, please tell me whether you are very satisfied with it, somewhat satisfied, somewhat dissatisfied or very dissatisfied. ... Your health insurance coverage." 42 percent very satisfied, 39 percent somewhat satisfied. Total: 81 percent satisfaction.

• Mathew Greenwald & Associates for the Employee Benefit Research Institute, Aug. 2008. "Please rate your satisfaction with each of the following aspects of your health care. ... Quality of health care I receive through my (health insurance) plan." 31 percent extremely satisfied, 41 percent very satisfied, 23 somewhat satisfied. Total: 95 percent satisfaction.

• Mathew Greenwald & Associates for the Employee Benefit Research Institute, Aug. 2008. "Please rate your satisfaction with each of the following aspects of your health care. ... Overall satisfaction with my health (insurance) care plan." 23 percent extremely satisfied, 38 percent very satisfied, 30 percent somewhat satisfied. Total: 91 percent satisfaction.

• Mathew Greenwald & Associates for the Employee Benefit Research Institute, May 2008. "Overall, how satisfied are you with your current health insurance plan?" 17 percent extremely satisfied, 36 percent very satisfied, 33 percent somewhat satisfied. Total: 86 percent satisfaction.

If you average these eight scores, the total rate of satisfaction is 87 percent. In all but one poll, the satisfaction level was below Will's stated level of 95 percent.

One poll, taken five months before Obama was inaugurated, did come up with 95 percent satisfaction. But alone among these eight polls, that survey asked participants about the "quality of health care I receive through my (health insurance) plan." While we decided that the wording was close enough to merit inclusion on our list, the modest difference in satisfaction levels may stem from the way the question was phrased. Many people feel more warmly toward their doctors than they do toward their insurers.

So, while one poll with unique wording pegged satisfaction at 95 percent, the average of all relevant polls over a two-year period was eight points lower than what Will cited. However, Will is correct that the levels of satisfaction with one's own health insurance are consistently high. Indeed, they're extraordinarily high, when one considers how rarely surveys find such high levels of agreement among Americans. Since Will portrayed the larger point accurately, even while modestly overstating the number, we rate his comment Mostly True.

Will says that 95 percent of people with health insurance are satisfied with it

Your cut and paste shows that you really do not have a clue

.

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. If insight and experience had ever been used, ObamaCare would have been tossed aside from the start.
There are so many things wrong with the entire concept that those opposed hardly imagined that it would even gain a foothold on the public's imagination.



2. First.....ObamaCare is not healthcare....it's healthcare insurance. President Reagan saw to it that every human being, legal or otherwise, in our country had healthcare in 1986.
"The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA)[1] is an act of the United States Chttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Medical_Treatment_and_Active_Labor_Actongress, passed in 1986..."



3. The Left, American's Bolsheviks, inflated the numbers in need of insurance. Rather than disrupting the entire industry identify the 8-10 million who need and are unable to get healthcare, including those with pre-existing conditions,and provide debit cards as is done for food stamps:

"Food debit cards help 27 million people buy food, similar to the number who need help buying health coverage. In all fifty states, debit card technology has transformed the federal food stamp program, which used to be notorious for fraud and abuse. (Only 2 percent of card users are found to be ineligible, according to the General Accounting Office.) Cards are loaded with a specific dollar amount monthly, depending on family size and income, and allow cardholders to shop anywhere. The same strategy could be adapted to provide purchasing power to families who need help buying high-deductible health coverage. It's what all Americans used to buy (see chart 5), and it's all that's needed for families with moderate incomes, who can afford a routine doctor visit. "
Downgrading Health Care
Downgrading Medical Care



4. Polls of the vast majority with healthcare insurance, 90-95%, were more than satisfied with their insurance.

"So, while one poll with unique wording pegged satisfaction at 95 percent, the average of all relevant polls over a two-year period was eight points lower than what Will cited. However, Will is correct that the levels of satisfaction with one's own health insurance are consistently high. Indeed, they're extraordinarily high, when one considers how rarely surveys find such high levels of agreement among Americans. Since Will portrayed the larger point accurately, even while modestly overstating the number, we rate his comment Mostly True."
Will says that 95 percent of people with health insurance are satisfied with it



5. Based on the amount lost on ObamaCare exchanges..
"The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo"
The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo -- The Motley Fool...
...the government could simply have given a debit card loaded with $15,000 to every one of the 10 million who couldn't afford insurance.



Soooo....who are the history-challenged dopes who bought the scam?

Reliable Democrat Voters

Raise your paws.

First and only since your first paragraph is wrong did not bother to read the rest of the bs post.

ACA, aka obamacare is not health insurance it's a law.

"did not bother to read the rest of the bs post."

And so we learn early on why you are debbieDuncedowner.



Didn't you figure out why that strategy didn't work so well in school?

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. If insight and experience had ever been used, ObamaCare would have been tossed aside from the start.
There are so many things wrong with the entire concept that those opposed hardly imagined that it would even gain a foothold on the public's imagination.

No she doesn't and all I saw was dates before obamacare.



2. First.....ObamaCare is not healthcare....it's healthcare insurance. President Reagan saw to it that every human being, legal or otherwise, in our country had healthcare in 1986.
"The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA)[1] is an act of the United States Chttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Medical_Treatment_and_Active_Labor_Actongress, passed in 1986..."



3. The Left, American's Bolsheviks, inflated the numbers in need of insurance. Rather than disrupting the entire industry identify the 8-10 million who need and are unable to get healthcare, including those with pre-existing conditions,and provide debit cards as is done for food stamps:

"Food debit cards help 27 million people buy food, similar to the number who need help buying health coverage. In all fifty states, debit card technology has transformed the federal food stamp program, which used to be notorious for fraud and abuse. (Only 2 percent of card users are found to be ineligible, according to the General Accounting Office.) Cards are loaded with a specific dollar amount monthly, depending on family size and income, and allow cardholders to shop anywhere. The same strategy could be adapted to provide purchasing power to families who need help buying high-deductible health coverage. It's what all Americans used to buy (see chart 5), and it's all that's needed for families with moderate incomes, who can afford a routine doctor visit. "
Downgrading Health Care
Downgrading Medical Care



4. Polls of the vast majority with healthcare insurance, 90-95%, were more than satisfied with their insurance.

"So, while one poll with unique wording pegged satisfaction at 95 percent, the average of all relevant polls over a two-year period was eight points lower than what Will cited. However, Will is correct that the levels of satisfaction with one's own health insurance are consistently high. Indeed, they're extraordinarily high, when one considers how rarely surveys find such high levels of agreement among Americans. Since Will portrayed the larger point accurately, even while modestly overstating the number, we rate his comment Mostly True."
Will says that 95 percent of people with health insurance are satisfied with it



5. Based on the amount lost on ObamaCare exchanges..
"The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo"
The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo -- The Motley Fool...
...the government could simply have given a debit card loaded with $15,000 to every one of the 10 million who couldn't afford insurance.



Soooo....who are the history-challenged dopes who bought the scam?

Reliable Democrat Voters

Raise your paws.



out of pocket expenses more
bolsheviks
most were happy with coverage

1.The GOP has found out that it can not be replaced overnight without costing them their job and future elections..So they are hating it , instead of fixing the problems.

2.Too many people want and need Obamacare insurance so the 90-95% is wrong

3.Not one of those GOP mention how they are paid off by Big Pharma, and Medical hacks, so of coarse they are slamming Obamacare.

4.Obamacare needs work, the mandate is gone so what the heck are the ones hating it still complaining for?

5. Like Harley said they don't want to, nor do they mention how much it is costing us for the uninsured to use the ER and then skip the high bill

6. I feel that Obamacare was created for the very ill, before Obamacare people were losing their life savings, and homes and once the funds were gone they stopped treatment and the people died. This is why the premiums are high

7.I pay over $3,000 a month for my insurance which is much better than paying over $700.000 + X 2 after getting sick with cancer.

8.Plus they cannot find a little tiny reason to kick me off anymore , like they did millions of people

9. My son's are both in college ( one is a Type 1 diabetic ) so I am glad that they can stay on my health insurance until they get a good job.

.

"2.Too many people want and need Obamacare insurance so the 90-95% is wrong."

Really?

"When we started this health care debate a year ago, 85 percent of the American people had health insurance, and 95 percent of the 85 percent were happy with it."
— George Will on Sunday, February 21st, 2010 in a roundtable segment on ABC's This Week"
Will says that 95 percent of people with health insurance are satisfied with it PolitiFact



Here's what we found, poll by poll, in reverse chronological order:

• Quinnipiac University, Sept. 2009. "How satisfied are you with your health insurance plan?" 54 percent very satisfied, 34 percent somewhat.Total: 88 percent satisfaction.

• Quinnipiac University, June 2009. "How satisfied are you with your health insurance plan?" 49 percent very satisfied, 36 somewhat satisfied.Total: 85 percent satisfaction.

• ABC News/Washington Post, June 2009. "For each specific item I name, please tell me whether you are very satisfied with it, somewhat satisfied, somewhat dissatisfied or very dissatisfied. ... Your health insurance coverage." 42 percent very satisfied, 39 percent somewhat satisfied. Total: 81 percent satisfaction.

• Mathew Greenwald & Associates for the Employee Benefit Research Institute, May 2009. "Overall, how satisfied are you with your current health insurance plan?" 21 percent extremely satisfied, 37 percent very satisfied, 30 percent somewhat satisfied. Total: 88 percent satisfaction.

• ABC News/Washington Post, June 2009. "For each specific item I name, please tell me whether you are very satisfied with it, somewhat satisfied, somewhat dissatisfied or very dissatisfied. ... Your health insurance coverage." 42 percent very satisfied, 39 percent somewhat satisfied. Total: 81 percent satisfaction.

• Mathew Greenwald & Associates for the Employee Benefit Research Institute, Aug. 2008. "Please rate your satisfaction with each of the following aspects of your health care. ... Quality of health care I receive through my (health insurance) plan." 31 percent extremely satisfied, 41 percent very satisfied, 23 somewhat satisfied. Total: 95 percent satisfaction.

• Mathew Greenwald & Associates for the Employee Benefit Research Institute, Aug. 2008. "Please rate your satisfaction with each of the following aspects of your health care. ... Overall satisfaction with my health (insurance) care plan." 23 percent extremely satisfied, 38 percent very satisfied, 30 percent somewhat satisfied. Total: 91 percent satisfaction.

• Mathew Greenwald & Associates for the Employee Benefit Research Institute, May 2008. "Overall, how satisfied are you with your current health insurance plan?" 17 percent extremely satisfied, 36 percent very satisfied, 33 percent somewhat satisfied. Total: 86 percent satisfaction.

If you average these eight scores, the total rate of satisfaction is 87 percent. In all but one poll, the satisfaction level was below Will's stated level of 95 percent.

One poll, taken five months before Obama was inaugurated, did come up with 95 percent satisfaction. But alone among these eight polls, that survey asked participants about the "quality of health care I receive through my (health insurance) plan." While we decided that the wording was close enough to merit inclusion on our list, the modest difference in satisfaction levels may stem from the way the question was phrased. Many people feel more warmly toward their doctors than they do toward their insurers.

So, while one poll with unique wording pegged satisfaction at 95 percent, the average of all relevant polls over a two-year period was eight points lower than what Will cited. However, Will is correct that the levels of satisfaction with one's own health insurance are consistently high. Indeed, they're extraordinarily high, when one considers how rarely surveys find such high levels of agreement among Americans. Since Will portrayed the larger point accurately, even while modestly overstating the number, we rate his comment Mostly True.

Will says that 95 percent of people with health insurance are satisfied with it

Your cut and paste shows that you really do not have a clue

.

You wrote nothing in this post, which makes it, far and away, your most insightful.

 

[debbiedowner]

1. If insight and experience had ever been used, ObamaCare would have been tossed aside from the start.
There are so many things wrong with the entire concept that those opposed hardly imagined that it would even gain a foothold on the public's imagination.



2. First.....ObamaCare is not healthcare....it's healthcare insurance. President Reagan saw to it that every human being, legal or otherwise, in our country had healthcare in 1986.
"The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA)[1] is an act of the United States Chttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Medical_Treatment_and_Active_Labor_Actongress, passed in 1986..."



3. The Left, American's Bolsheviks, inflated the numbers in need of insurance. Rather than disrupting the entire industry identify the 8-10 million who need and are unable to get healthcare, including those with pre-existing conditions,and provide debit cards as is done for food stamps:

"Food debit cards help 27 million people buy food, similar to the number who need help buying health coverage. In all fifty states, debit card technology has transformed the federal food stamp program, which used to be notorious for fraud and abuse. (Only 2 percent of card users are found to be ineligible, according to the General Accounting Office.) Cards are loaded with a specific dollar amount monthly, depending on family size and income, and allow cardholders to shop anywhere. The same strategy could be adapted to provide purchasing power to families who need help buying high-deductible health coverage. It's what all Americans used to buy (see chart 5), and it's all that's needed for families with moderate incomes, who can afford a routine doctor visit. "
Downgrading Health Care
Downgrading Medical Care



4. Polls of the vast majority with healthcare insurance, 90-95%, were more than satisfied with their insurance.

"So, while one poll with unique wording pegged satisfaction at 95 percent, the average of all relevant polls over a two-year period was eight points lower than what Will cited. However, Will is correct that the levels of satisfaction with one's own health insurance are consistently high. Indeed, they're extraordinarily high, when one considers how rarely surveys find such high levels of agreement among Americans. Since Will portrayed the larger point accurately, even while modestly overstating the number, we rate his comment Mostly True."
Will says that 95 percent of people with health insurance are satisfied with it



5. Based on the amount lost on ObamaCare exchanges..
"The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo"
The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo -- The Motley Fool...
...the government could simply have given a debit card loaded with $15,000 to every one of the 10 million who couldn't afford insurance.



Soooo....who are the history-challenged dopes who bought the scam?

Reliable Democrat Voters

Raise your paws.



out of pocket expenses more
bolsheviks
most were happy with coverage

1.The GOP has found out that it can not be replaced overnight without costing them their job and future elections..So they are hating it , instead of fixing the problems.

2.Too many people want and need Obamacare insurance so the 90-95% is wrong

3.Not one of those GOP mention how they are paid off by Big Pharma, and Medical hacks, so of coarse they are slamming Obamacare.

4.Obamacare needs work, the mandate is gone so what the heck are the ones hating it still complaining for?

5. Like Harley said they don't want to, nor do they mention how much it is costing us for the uninsured to use the ER and then skip the high bill

6. I feel that Obamacare was created for the very ill, before Obamacare people were losing their life savings, and homes and once the funds were gone they stopped treatment and the people died. This is why the premiums are high

7.I pay over $3,000 a month for my insurance which is much better than paying over $700.000 + X 2 after getting sick with cancer.

8.Plus they cannot find a little tiny reason to kick me off anymore , like they did millions of people

9. My son's are both in college ( one is a Type 1 diabetic ) so I am glad that they can stay on my health insurance until they get a good job.

.

How about you simply go door to door and ask your neighbors how they feel about supporting you and your family?

At least send them a thank you card.


I have 3 or 4 more posts for this thread.
Hopefully you'll consider them.

You are not mandated to buy Obamacare anymore, so what is your problem with it?

You don't seem to have a problem with forking out millions to fill the pockets of congress, big pharma, and other corruption.

"You don't seem to have a problem with forking out millions to fill the pockets of congress, big pharma, and other corruption."

Where do you find any of that in my posts?
Any links, or quotes you can provide?

See....simply hot air on your part.



Now....since you bring up "forking out millions to fill the pockets of congress, big pharma, and other corruption."

Let's take a look at that:

"Also, it’s worth noting that while these figures sound like a lot of money — and few would dispute the fact that health insurance company CEOs make healthy salaries — these numbers represent a very small fraction of total health care spending in the U.S.

In 2007, national health care expenditures totaled $2.2 trillion. Health insurance profits of nearly $13 billion make up 0.6 percent of that.
CEO compensation is a mere 0.005 percent of total spending."
FactCheck.org: Pushing for a Public Plan


Maybe you should stop believing the Left, and actually educate yourself.
Could be a plan?

Your figures do not pertain to today so go find something updated not from 12 years ago.

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. If insight and experience had ever been used, ObamaCare would have been tossed aside from the start.
There are so many things wrong with the entire concept that those opposed hardly imagined that it would even gain a foothold on the public's imagination.



2. First.....ObamaCare is not healthcare....it's healthcare insurance. President Reagan saw to it that every human being, legal or otherwise, in our country had healthcare in 1986.
"The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA)[1] is an act of the United States Chttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Medical_Treatment_and_Active_Labor_Actongress, passed in 1986..."



3. The Left, American's Bolsheviks, inflated the numbers in need of insurance. Rather than disrupting the entire industry identify the 8-10 million who need and are unable to get healthcare, including those with pre-existing conditions,and provide debit cards as is done for food stamps:

"Food debit cards help 27 million people buy food, similar to the number who need help buying health coverage. In all fifty states, debit card technology has transformed the federal food stamp program, which used to be notorious for fraud and abuse. (Only 2 percent of card users are found to be ineligible, according to the General Accounting Office.) Cards are loaded with a specific dollar amount monthly, depending on family size and income, and allow cardholders to shop anywhere. The same strategy could be adapted to provide purchasing power to families who need help buying high-deductible health coverage. It's what all Americans used to buy (see chart 5), and it's all that's needed for families with moderate incomes, who can afford a routine doctor visit. "
Downgrading Health Care
Downgrading Medical Care



4. Polls of the vast majority with healthcare insurance, 90-95%, were more than satisfied with their insurance.

"So, while one poll with unique wording pegged satisfaction at 95 percent, the average of all relevant polls over a two-year period was eight points lower than what Will cited. However, Will is correct that the levels of satisfaction with one's own health insurance are consistently high. Indeed, they're extraordinarily high, when one considers how rarely surveys find such high levels of agreement among Americans. Since Will portrayed the larger point accurately, even while modestly overstating the number, we rate his comment Mostly True."
Will says that 95 percent of people with health insurance are satisfied with it



5. Based on the amount lost on ObamaCare exchanges..
"The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo"
The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo -- The Motley Fool...
...the government could simply have given a debit card loaded with $15,000 to every one of the 10 million who couldn't afford insurance.



Soooo....who are the history-challenged dopes who bought the scam?

Reliable Democrat Voters

Raise your paws.



out of pocket expenses more
bolsheviks
most were happy with coverage

1.The GOP has found out that it can not be replaced overnight without costing them their job and future elections..So they are hating it , instead of fixing the problems.

2.Too many people want and need Obamacare insurance so the 90-95% is wrong

3.Not one of those GOP mention how they are paid off by Big Pharma, and Medical hacks, so of coarse they are slamming Obamacare.

4.Obamacare needs work, the mandate is gone so what the heck are the ones hating it still complaining for?

5. Like Harley said they don't want to, nor do they mention how much it is costing us for the uninsured to use the ER and then skip the high bill

6. I feel that Obamacare was created for the very ill, before Obamacare people were losing their life savings, and homes and once the funds were gone they stopped treatment and the people died. This is why the premiums are high

7.I pay over $3,000 a month for my insurance which is much better than paying over $700.000 + X 2 after getting sick with cancer.

8.Plus they cannot find a little tiny reason to kick me off anymore , like they did millions of people

9. My son's are both in college ( one is a Type 1 diabetic ) so I am glad that they can stay on my health insurance until they get a good job.

.

How about you simply go door to door and ask your neighbors how they feel about supporting you and your family?

At least send them a thank you card.


I have 3 or 4 more posts for this thread.
Hopefully you'll consider them.

You are not mandated to buy Obamacare anymore, so what is your problem with it?

You don't seem to have a problem with forking out millions to fill the pockets of congress, big pharma, and other corruption.

"You don't seem to have a problem with forking out millions to fill the pockets of congress, big pharma, and other corruption."

Where do you find any of that in my posts?
Any links, or quotes you can provide?

See....simply hot air on your part.



Now....since you bring up "forking out millions to fill the pockets of congress, big pharma, and other corruption."

Let's take a look at that:

"Also, it’s worth noting that while these figures sound like a lot of money — and few would dispute the fact that health insurance company CEOs make healthy salaries — these numbers represent a very small fraction of total health care spending in the U.S.

In 2007, national health care expenditures totaled $2.2 trillion. Health insurance profits of nearly $13 billion make up 0.6 percent of that.
CEO compensation is a mere 0.005 percent of total spending."
FactCheck.org: Pushing for a Public Plan


Maybe you should stop believing the Left, and actually educate yourself.
Could be a plan?

Your figures do not pertain to today so go find something updated not from 12 years ago.

Perhaps you should have read all of the posts.....then you might not have appeared such a dunce.

 

[debbiedowner]

1. If insight and experience had ever been used, ObamaCare would have been tossed aside from the start.
There are so many things wrong with the entire concept that those opposed hardly imagined that it would even gain a foothold on the public's imagination.



2. First.....ObamaCare is not healthcare....it's healthcare insurance. President Reagan saw to it that every human being, legal or otherwise, in our country had healthcare in 1986.
"The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA)[1] is an act of the United States Chttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Medical_Treatment_and_Active_Labor_Actongress, passed in 1986..."



3. The Left, American's Bolsheviks, inflated the numbers in need of insurance. Rather than disrupting the entire industry identify the 8-10 million who need and are unable to get healthcare, including those with pre-existing conditions,and provide debit cards as is done for food stamps:

"Food debit cards help 27 million people buy food, similar to the number who need help buying health coverage. In all fifty states, debit card technology has transformed the federal food stamp program, which used to be notorious for fraud and abuse. (Only 2 percent of card users are found to be ineligible, according to the General Accounting Office.) Cards are loaded with a specific dollar amount monthly, depending on family size and income, and allow cardholders to shop anywhere. The same strategy could be adapted to provide purchasing power to families who need help buying high-deductible health coverage. It's what all Americans used to buy (see chart 5), and it's all that's needed for families with moderate incomes, who can afford a routine doctor visit. "
Downgrading Health Care
Downgrading Medical Care



4. Polls of the vast majority with healthcare insurance, 90-95%, were more than satisfied with their insurance.

"So, while one poll with unique wording pegged satisfaction at 95 percent, the average of all relevant polls over a two-year period was eight points lower than what Will cited. However, Will is correct that the levels of satisfaction with one's own health insurance are consistently high. Indeed, they're extraordinarily high, when one considers how rarely surveys find such high levels of agreement among Americans. Since Will portrayed the larger point accurately, even while modestly overstating the number, we rate his comment Mostly True."
Will says that 95 percent of people with health insurance are satisfied with it



5. Based on the amount lost on ObamaCare exchanges..
"The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo"
The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo -- The Motley Fool...
...the government could simply have given a debit card loaded with $15,000 to every one of the 10 million who couldn't afford insurance.



Soooo....who are the history-challenged dopes who bought the scam?

Reliable Democrat Voters

Raise your paws.

First and only since your first paragraph is wrong did not bother to read the rest of the bs post.

ACA, aka obamacare is not health insurance it's a law.

"did not bother to read the rest of the bs post."

And so we learn early on why you are debbieDuncedowner.



Didn't you figure out why that strategy didn't work so well in school?

I suggest before you spout your sloppy trap you get up to speed on the LAW. I am.

 

[debbiedowner]

1.The GOP has found out that it can not be replaced overnight without costing them their job and future elections..So they are hating it , instead of fixing the problems.

2.Too many people want and need Obamacare insurance so the 90-95% is wrong

3.Not one of those GOP mention how they are paid off by Big Pharma, and Medical hacks, so of coarse they are slamming Obamacare.

4.Obamacare needs work, the mandate is gone so what the heck are the ones hating it still complaining for?

5. Like Harley said they don't want to, nor do they mention how much it is costing us for the uninsured to use the ER and then skip the high bill

6. I feel that Obamacare was created for the very ill, before Obamacare people were losing their life savings, and homes and once the funds were gone they stopped treatment and the people died. This is why the premiums are high

7.I pay over $3,000 a month for my insurance which is much better than paying over $700.000 + X 2 after getting sick with cancer.

8.Plus they cannot find a little tiny reason to kick me off anymore , like they did millions of people

9. My son's are both in college ( one is a Type 1 diabetic ) so I am glad that they can stay on my health insurance until they get a good job.

.

How about you simply go door to door and ask your neighbors how they feel about supporting you and your family?

At least send them a thank you card.


I have 3 or 4 more posts for this thread.
Hopefully you'll consider them.

You are not mandated to buy Obamacare anymore, so what is your problem with it?

You don't seem to have a problem with forking out millions to fill the pockets of congress, big pharma, and other corruption.

"You don't seem to have a problem with forking out millions to fill the pockets of congress, big pharma, and other corruption."

Where do you find any of that in my posts?
Any links, or quotes you can provide?

See....simply hot air on your part.



Now....since you bring up "forking out millions to fill the pockets of congress, big pharma, and other corruption."

Let's take a look at that:

"Also, it’s worth noting that while these figures sound like a lot of money — and few would dispute the fact that health insurance company CEOs make healthy salaries — these numbers represent a very small fraction of total health care spending in the U.S.

In 2007, national health care expenditures totaled $2.2 trillion. Health insurance profits of nearly $13 billion make up 0.6 percent of that.
CEO compensation is a mere 0.005 percent of total spending."
FactCheck.org: Pushing for a Public Plan


Maybe you should stop believing the Left, and actually educate yourself.
Could be a plan?

Your figures do not pertain to today so go find something updated not from 12 years ago.

Perhaps you should have read all of the posts.....then you might not have appeared such a dunce.

RW's are pretty good and calling other's names before they even gather facts and learn the law.

 

[debbiedowner]

1.The GOP has found out that it can not be replaced overnight without costing them their job and future elections..So they are hating it , instead of fixing the problems.

2.Too many people want and need Obamacare insurance so the 90-95% is wrong

3.Not one of those GOP mention how they are paid off by Big Pharma, and Medical hacks, so of coarse they are slamming Obamacare.

4.Obamacare needs work, the mandate is gone so what the heck are the ones hating it still complaining for?

5. Like Harley said they don't want to, nor do they mention how much it is costing us for the uninsured to use the ER and then skip the high bill

6. I feel that Obamacare was created for the very ill, before Obamacare people were losing their life savings, and homes and once the funds were gone they stopped treatment and the people died. This is why the premiums are high

7.I pay over $3,000 a month for my insurance which is much better than paying over $700.000 + X 2 after getting sick with cancer.

8.Plus they cannot find a little tiny reason to kick me off anymore , like they did millions of people

9. My son's are both in college ( one is a Type 1 diabetic ) so I am glad that they can stay on my health insurance until they get a good job.

.

How about you simply go door to door and ask your neighbors how they feel about supporting you and your family?

At least send them a thank you card.


I have 3 or 4 more posts for this thread.
Hopefully you'll consider them.

You are not mandated to buy Obamacare anymore, so what is your problem with it?

You don't seem to have a problem with forking out millions to fill the pockets of congress, big pharma, and other corruption.

"You don't seem to have a problem with forking out millions to fill the pockets of congress, big pharma, and other corruption."

Where do you find any of that in my posts?
Any links, or quotes you can provide?

See....simply hot air on your part.



Now....since you bring up "forking out millions to fill the pockets of congress, big pharma, and other corruption."

Let's take a look at that:

"Also, it’s worth noting that while these figures sound like a lot of money — and few would dispute the fact that health insurance company CEOs make healthy salaries — these numbers represent a very small fraction of total health care spending in the U.S.

In 2007, national health care expenditures totaled $2.2 trillion. Health insurance profits of nearly $13 billion make up 0.6 percent of that.
CEO compensation is a mere 0.005 percent of total spending."
FactCheck.org: Pushing for a Public Plan


Maybe you should stop believing the Left, and actually educate yourself.
Could be a plan?

Your figures do not pertain to today so go find something updated not from 12 years ago.

Perhaps you should have read all of the posts.....then you might not have appeared such a dunce.

I read all the posts except op, I stopped reading the rest of your post when I realized I was dealing with a mentally ill person that could not tell the difference of a law and that of health insurance.

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. If insight and experience had ever been used, ObamaCare would have been tossed aside from the start.
There are so many things wrong with the entire concept that those opposed hardly imagined that it would even gain a foothold on the public's imagination.



2. First.....ObamaCare is not healthcare....it's healthcare insurance. President Reagan saw to it that every human being, legal or otherwise, in our country had healthcare in 1986.
"The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA)[1] is an act of the United States Chttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Medical_Treatment_and_Active_Labor_Actongress, passed in 1986..."



3. The Left, American's Bolsheviks, inflated the numbers in need of insurance. Rather than disrupting the entire industry identify the 8-10 million who need and are unable to get healthcare, including those with pre-existing conditions,and provide debit cards as is done for food stamps:

"Food debit cards help 27 million people buy food, similar to the number who need help buying health coverage. In all fifty states, debit card technology has transformed the federal food stamp program, which used to be notorious for fraud and abuse. (Only 2 percent of card users are found to be ineligible, according to the General Accounting Office.) Cards are loaded with a specific dollar amount monthly, depending on family size and income, and allow cardholders to shop anywhere. The same strategy could be adapted to provide purchasing power to families who need help buying high-deductible health coverage. It's what all Americans used to buy (see chart 5), and it's all that's needed for families with moderate incomes, who can afford a routine doctor visit. "
Downgrading Health Care
Downgrading Medical Care



4. Polls of the vast majority with healthcare insurance, 90-95%, were more than satisfied with their insurance.

"So, while one poll with unique wording pegged satisfaction at 95 percent, the average of all relevant polls over a two-year period was eight points lower than what Will cited. However, Will is correct that the levels of satisfaction with one's own health insurance are consistently high. Indeed, they're extraordinarily high, when one considers how rarely surveys find such high levels of agreement among Americans. Since Will portrayed the larger point accurately, even while modestly overstating the number, we rate his comment Mostly True."
Will says that 95 percent of people with health insurance are satisfied with it



5. Based on the amount lost on ObamaCare exchanges..
"The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo"
The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo -- The Motley Fool...
...the government could simply have given a debit card loaded with $15,000 to every one of the 10 million who couldn't afford insurance.



Soooo....who are the history-challenged dopes who bought the scam?

Reliable Democrat Voters

Raise your paws.

First and only since your first paragraph is wrong did not bother to read the rest of the bs post.

ACA, aka obamacare is not health insurance it's a law.

"did not bother to read the rest of the bs post."

And so we learn early on why you are debbieDuncedowner.



Didn't you figure out why that strategy didn't work so well in school?

I suggest before you spout your sloppy trap you get up to speed on the LAW. I am.

An organization of stock market analysts offered the following.....

....and, coincidentally, it applies to you as well:

"It's Time to Call This Obamacare Experiment an Utter Failure
Although this program was designed to facilitate competition among insurers, it's cost taxpayers more than $1.7 billion and left more than 800,000 people searching for a new health plan."
It's Time to Call This Obamacare Experiment an Utter Failure -- The Motley Fool

 

[PoliticalChic]

How about you simply go door to door and ask your neighbors how they feel about supporting you and your family?

At least send them a thank you card.


I have 3 or 4 more posts for this thread.
Hopefully you'll consider them.

You are not mandated to buy Obamacare anymore, so what is your problem with it?

You don't seem to have a problem with forking out millions to fill the pockets of congress, big pharma, and other corruption.

"You don't seem to have a problem with forking out millions to fill the pockets of congress, big pharma, and other corruption."

Where do you find any of that in my posts?
Any links, or quotes you can provide?

See....simply hot air on your part.



Now....since you bring up "forking out millions to fill the pockets of congress, big pharma, and other corruption."

Let's take a look at that:

"Also, it’s worth noting that while these figures sound like a lot of money — and few would dispute the fact that health insurance company CEOs make healthy salaries — these numbers represent a very small fraction of total health care spending in the U.S.

In 2007, national health care expenditures totaled $2.2 trillion. Health insurance profits of nearly $13 billion make up 0.6 percent of that.
CEO compensation is a mere 0.005 percent of total spending."
FactCheck.org: Pushing for a Public Plan


Maybe you should stop believing the Left, and actually educate yourself.
Could be a plan?

Your figures do not pertain to today so go find something updated not from 12 years ago.

Perhaps you should have read all of the posts.....then you might not have appeared such a dunce.

I read all the posts except op, I stopped reading the rest of your post when I realized I was dealing with a mentally ill person that could not tell the difference of a law and that of health insurance.

I understand.....you bow before the law.

Soooo....you agreed with the Dred Scott decision, too?

 

[debbiedowner]

1. If insight and experience had ever been used, ObamaCare would have been tossed aside from the start.
There are so many things wrong with the entire concept that those opposed hardly imagined that it would even gain a foothold on the public's imagination.



2. First.....ObamaCare is not healthcare....it's healthcare insurance. President Reagan saw to it that every human being, legal or otherwise, in our country had healthcare in 1986.
"The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA)[1] is an act of the United States Chttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Medical_Treatment_and_Active_Labor_Actongress, passed in 1986..."



3. The Left, American's Bolsheviks, inflated the numbers in need of insurance. Rather than disrupting the entire industry identify the 8-10 million who need and are unable to get healthcare, including those with pre-existing conditions,and provide debit cards as is done for food stamps:

"Food debit cards help 27 million people buy food, similar to the number who need help buying health coverage. In all fifty states, debit card technology has transformed the federal food stamp program, which used to be notorious for fraud and abuse. (Only 2 percent of card users are found to be ineligible, according to the General Accounting Office.) Cards are loaded with a specific dollar amount monthly, depending on family size and income, and allow cardholders to shop anywhere. The same strategy could be adapted to provide purchasing power to families who need help buying high-deductible health coverage. It's what all Americans used to buy (see chart 5), and it's all that's needed for families with moderate incomes, who can afford a routine doctor visit. "
Downgrading Health Care
Downgrading Medical Care



4. Polls of the vast majority with healthcare insurance, 90-95%, were more than satisfied with their insurance.

"So, while one poll with unique wording pegged satisfaction at 95 percent, the average of all relevant polls over a two-year period was eight points lower than what Will cited. However, Will is correct that the levels of satisfaction with one's own health insurance are consistently high. Indeed, they're extraordinarily high, when one considers how rarely surveys find such high levels of agreement among Americans. Since Will portrayed the larger point accurately, even while modestly overstating the number, we rate his comment Mostly True."
Will says that 95 percent of people with health insurance are satisfied with it



5. Based on the amount lost on ObamaCare exchanges..
"The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo"
The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo -- The Motley Fool...
...the government could simply have given a debit card loaded with $15,000 to every one of the 10 million who couldn't afford insurance.



Soooo....who are the history-challenged dopes who bought the scam?

Reliable Democrat Voters

Raise your paws.

First and only since your first paragraph is wrong did not bother to read the rest of the bs post.

ACA, aka obamacare is not health insurance it's a law.

"did not bother to read the rest of the bs post."

And so we learn early on why you are debbieDuncedowner.



Didn't you figure out why that strategy didn't work so well in school?

I suggest before you spout your sloppy trap you get up to speed on the LAW. I am.

An organization of stock market analysts offered the following.....

....and, coincidentally, it applies to you as well:

"It's Time to Call This Obamacare Experiment an Utter Failure
Although this program was designed to facilitate competition among insurers, it's cost taxpayers more than $1.7 billion and left more than 800,000 people searching for a new health plan."
It's Time to Call This Obamacare Experiment an Utter Failure -- The Motley Fool

Yep the motley fool tells it all. FOOL

 

[debbiedowner]

You are not mandated to buy Obamacare anymore, so what is your problem with it?

You don't seem to have a problem with forking out millions to fill the pockets of congress, big pharma, and other corruption.

"You don't seem to have a problem with forking out millions to fill the pockets of congress, big pharma, and other corruption."

Where do you find any of that in my posts?
Any links, or quotes you can provide?

See....simply hot air on your part.



Now....since you bring up "forking out millions to fill the pockets of congress, big pharma, and other corruption."

Let's take a look at that:

"Also, it’s worth noting that while these figures sound like a lot of money — and few would dispute the fact that health insurance company CEOs make healthy salaries — these numbers represent a very small fraction of total health care spending in the U.S.

In 2007, national health care expenditures totaled $2.2 trillion. Health insurance profits of nearly $13 billion make up 0.6 percent of that.
CEO compensation is a mere 0.005 percent of total spending."
FactCheck.org: Pushing for a Public Plan


Maybe you should stop believing the Left, and actually educate yourself.
Could be a plan?

Your figures do not pertain to today so go find something updated not from 12 years ago.

Perhaps you should have read all of the posts.....then you might not have appeared such a dunce.

I read all the posts except op, I stopped reading the rest of your post when I realized I was dealing with a mentally ill person that could not tell the difference of a law and that of health insurance.

I understand.....you bow before the law.

Soooo....you agreed with the Dred Scott decision, too?

You do live the past, don't you?

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. If insight and experience had ever been used, ObamaCare would have been tossed aside from the start.
There are so many things wrong with the entire concept that those opposed hardly imagined that it would even gain a foothold on the public's imagination.



2. First.....ObamaCare is not healthcare....it's healthcare insurance. President Reagan saw to it that every human being, legal or otherwise, in our country had healthcare in 1986.
"The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA)[1] is an act of the United States Chttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Medical_Treatment_and_Active_Labor_Actongress, passed in 1986..."



3. The Left, American's Bolsheviks, inflated the numbers in need of insurance. Rather than disrupting the entire industry identify the 8-10 million who need and are unable to get healthcare, including those with pre-existing conditions,and provide debit cards as is done for food stamps:

"Food debit cards help 27 million people buy food, similar to the number who need help buying health coverage. In all fifty states, debit card technology has transformed the federal food stamp program, which used to be notorious for fraud and abuse. (Only 2 percent of card users are found to be ineligible, according to the General Accounting Office.) Cards are loaded with a specific dollar amount monthly, depending on family size and income, and allow cardholders to shop anywhere. The same strategy could be adapted to provide purchasing power to families who need help buying high-deductible health coverage. It's what all Americans used to buy (see chart 5), and it's all that's needed for families with moderate incomes, who can afford a routine doctor visit. "
Downgrading Health Care
Downgrading Medical Care



4. Polls of the vast majority with healthcare insurance, 90-95%, were more than satisfied with their insurance.

"So, while one poll with unique wording pegged satisfaction at 95 percent, the average of all relevant polls over a two-year period was eight points lower than what Will cited. However, Will is correct that the levels of satisfaction with one's own health insurance are consistently high. Indeed, they're extraordinarily high, when one considers how rarely surveys find such high levels of agreement among Americans. Since Will portrayed the larger point accurately, even while modestly overstating the number, we rate his comment Mostly True."
Will says that 95 percent of people with health insurance are satisfied with it



5. Based on the amount lost on ObamaCare exchanges..
"The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo"
The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo -- The Motley Fool...
...the government could simply have given a debit card loaded with $15,000 to every one of the 10 million who couldn't afford insurance.



Soooo....who are the history-challenged dopes who bought the scam?

Reliable Democrat Voters

Raise your paws.

First and only since your first paragraph is wrong did not bother to read the rest of the bs post.

ACA, aka obamacare is not health insurance it's a law.

"did not bother to read the rest of the bs post."

And so we learn early on why you are debbieDuncedowner.



Didn't you figure out why that strategy didn't work so well in school?

I suggest before you spout your sloppy trap you get up to speed on the LAW. I am.

An organization of stock market analysts offered the following.....

....and, coincidentally, it applies to you as well:

"It's Time to Call This Obamacare Experiment an Utter Failure
Although this program was designed to facilitate competition among insurers, it's cost taxpayers more than $1.7 billion and left more than 800,000 people searching for a new health plan."
It's Time to Call This Obamacare Experiment an Utter Failure -- The Motley Fool

Yep the motley fool tells it all. FOOL

So you are a supporter of the Bolshevik policy called ObamaCare?

Excellent.


You never learned to question, to look at the underpinnings of your less-than-intuitive understanding of eschatological world views, or the political basis for many legal decisions.

Which makes my identification of you as a dunce,spot on.


Please, buy a ticket on the clue train…

 

[PoliticalChic]

"You don't seem to have a problem with forking out millions to fill the pockets of congress, big pharma, and other corruption."

Where do you find any of that in my posts?
Any links, or quotes you can provide?

See....simply hot air on your part.



Now....since you bring up "forking out millions to fill the pockets of congress, big pharma, and other corruption."

Let's take a look at that:

"Also, it’s worth noting that while these figures sound like a lot of money — and few would dispute the fact that health insurance company CEOs make healthy salaries — these numbers represent a very small fraction of total health care spending in the U.S.

In 2007, national health care expenditures totaled $2.2 trillion. Health insurance profits of nearly $13 billion make up 0.6 percent of that.
CEO compensation is a mere 0.005 percent of total spending."
FactCheck.org: Pushing for a Public Plan


Maybe you should stop believing the Left, and actually educate yourself.
Could be a plan?

Your figures do not pertain to today so go find something updated not from 12 years ago.

Perhaps you should have read all of the posts.....then you might not have appeared such a dunce.

I read all the posts except op, I stopped reading the rest of your post when I realized I was dealing with a mentally ill person that could not tell the difference of a law and that of health insurance.

I understand.....you bow before the law.

Soooo....you agreed with the Dred Scott decision, too?

You do live the past, don't you?

Time to demand a substantive post from you....both to see if that's possible, and to enjoy the comedy gold:
So far, all you've said is that this farrago is the law.


Now....what do you see as it's good points?


Waiting.

 

[Camp]

1. If insight and experience had ever been used, ObamaCare would have been tossed aside from the start.
There are so many things wrong with the entire concept that those opposed hardly imagined that it would even gain a foothold on the public's imagination.



2. First.....ObamaCare is not healthcare....it's healthcare insurance. President Reagan saw to it that every human being, legal or otherwise, in our country had healthcare in 1986.
"The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA)[1] is an act of the United States Chttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Medical_Treatment_and_Active_Labor_Actongress, passed in 1986..."



3. The Left, American's Bolsheviks, inflated the numbers in need of insurance. Rather than disrupting the entire industry identify the 8-10 million who need and are unable to get healthcare, including those with pre-existing conditions,and provide debit cards as is done for food stamps:

"Food debit cards help 27 million people buy food, similar to the number who need help buying health coverage. In all fifty states, debit card technology has transformed the federal food stamp program, which used to be notorious for fraud and abuse. (Only 2 percent of card users are found to be ineligible, according to the General Accounting Office.) Cards are loaded with a specific dollar amount monthly, depending on family size and income, and allow cardholders to shop anywhere. The same strategy could be adapted to provide purchasing power to families who need help buying high-deductible health coverage. It's what all Americans used to buy (see chart 5), and it's all that's needed for families with moderate incomes, who can afford a routine doctor visit. "
Downgrading Health Care
Downgrading Medical Care



4. Polls of the vast majority with healthcare insurance, 90-95%, were more than satisfied with their insurance.

"So, while one poll with unique wording pegged satisfaction at 95 percent, the average of all relevant polls over a two-year period was eight points lower than what Will cited. However, Will is correct that the levels of satisfaction with one's own health insurance are consistently high. Indeed, they're extraordinarily high, when one considers how rarely surveys find such high levels of agreement among Americans. Since Will portrayed the larger point accurately, even while modestly overstating the number, we rate his comment Mostly True."
Will says that 95 percent of people with health insurance are satisfied with it



5. Based on the amount lost on ObamaCare exchanges..
"The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo"
The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo -- The Motley Fool...
...the government could simply have given a debit card loaded with $15,000 to every one of the 10 million who couldn't afford insurance.



Soooo....who are the history-challenged dopes who bought the scam?

Reliable Democrat Voters

Raise your paws.

First and only since your first paragraph is wrong did not bother to read the rest of the bs post.

ACA, aka obamacare is not health insurance it's a law.

PoliticalChic threads start out with distortions and opinions presented as facts. If you challenge her on the obvious misrepresentations the way you have done, she will deflect and evade the challenge all day long and even for day after day to avoid answering that challenge. That is because her thesis is based on and presented in the original post. The hack will simply name call and hurl insults.

 

[debbiedowner]

First and only since your first paragraph is wrong did not bother to read the rest of the bs post.

ACA, aka obamacare is not health insurance it's a law.

"did not bother to read the rest of the bs post."

And so we learn early on why you are debbieDuncedowner.



Didn't you figure out why that strategy didn't work so well in school?

I suggest before you spout your sloppy trap you get up to speed on the LAW. I am.

An organization of stock market analysts offered the following.....

....and, coincidentally, it applies to you as well:

"It's Time to Call This Obamacare Experiment an Utter Failure
Although this program was designed to facilitate competition among insurers, it's cost taxpayers more than $1.7 billion and left more than 800,000 people searching for a new health plan."
It's Time to Call This Obamacare Experiment an Utter Failure -- The Motley Fool

Yep the motley fool tells it all. FOOL

So you are a supporter of the Bolshevik policy called ObamaCare?

Excellent.


You never learned to question, to look at the underpinnings of your less-than-intuitive understanding of eschatological world views, or the political basis for many legal decisions.

Which makes my identification of you as a dunce,spot on.


Please, buy a ticket on the clue train…

Please buy a ticket out of this country dumbshit.

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. If insight and experience had ever been used, ObamaCare would have been tossed aside from the start.
There are so many things wrong with the entire concept that those opposed hardly imagined that it would even gain a foothold on the public's imagination.



2. First.....ObamaCare is not healthcare....it's healthcare insurance. President Reagan saw to it that every human being, legal or otherwise, in our country had healthcare in 1986.
"The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA)[1] is an act of the United States Chttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Medical_Treatment_and_Active_Labor_Actongress, passed in 1986..."



3. The Left, American's Bolsheviks, inflated the numbers in need of insurance. Rather than disrupting the entire industry identify the 8-10 million who need and are unable to get healthcare, including those with pre-existing conditions,and provide debit cards as is done for food stamps:

"Food debit cards help 27 million people buy food, similar to the number who need help buying health coverage. In all fifty states, debit card technology has transformed the federal food stamp program, which used to be notorious for fraud and abuse. (Only 2 percent of card users are found to be ineligible, according to the General Accounting Office.) Cards are loaded with a specific dollar amount monthly, depending on family size and income, and allow cardholders to shop anywhere. The same strategy could be adapted to provide purchasing power to families who need help buying high-deductible health coverage. It's what all Americans used to buy (see chart 5), and it's all that's needed for families with moderate incomes, who can afford a routine doctor visit. "
Downgrading Health Care
Downgrading Medical Care



4. Polls of the vast majority with healthcare insurance, 90-95%, were more than satisfied with their insurance.

"So, while one poll with unique wording pegged satisfaction at 95 percent, the average of all relevant polls over a two-year period was eight points lower than what Will cited. However, Will is correct that the levels of satisfaction with one's own health insurance are consistently high. Indeed, they're extraordinarily high, when one considers how rarely surveys find such high levels of agreement among Americans. Since Will portrayed the larger point accurately, even while modestly overstating the number, we rate his comment Mostly True."
Will says that 95 percent of people with health insurance are satisfied with it



5. Based on the amount lost on ObamaCare exchanges..
"The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo"
The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo -- The Motley Fool...
...the government could simply have given a debit card loaded with $15,000 to every one of the 10 million who couldn't afford insurance.



Soooo....who are the history-challenged dopes who bought the scam?

Reliable Democrat Voters

Raise your paws.

First and only since your first paragraph is wrong did not bother to read the rest of the bs post.

ACA, aka obamacare is not health insurance it's a law.

"did not bother to read the rest of the bs post."

And so we learn early on why you are debbieDuncedowner.



Didn't you figure out why that strategy didn't work so well in school?

I suggest before you spout your sloppy trap you get up to speed on the LAW. I am.

An organization of stock market analysts offered the following.....

....and, coincidentally, it applies to you as well:

"It's Time to Call This Obamacare Experiment an Utter Failure
Although this program was designed to facilitate competition among insurers, it's cost taxpayers more than $1.7 billion and left more than 800,000 people searching for a new health plan."
It's Time to Call This Obamacare Experiment an Utter Failure -- The Motley Fool

Yep the motley fool tells it all. FOOL

"The result was the closure of more than half of Obamacare's healthcare co-ops heading into 2016. These 23 co-ops were to be run for the people, by the people, and they were designed to be a low-cost alternative to national health-benefit providers. Unfortunately, low premiums were also their demise, and the lack of risk-corridor funding pushed many to shutter their doors. Just this past week, three more healthcare co-ops -- Healthy CT in Connecticut, Land of Lincoln Health in Illinois, and Oregon Health Co-Op -- announced that they were shuttering their doors as well after extensive and unsustainable losses. Healthy CT will allow its roughly 40,000 members to maintain their plan through the remainder of the year, while Oregon's Co-Op will close at the end of this month."
From the Motley Fool Stock Analysts.

Can you deny any of this?

Or....are you really the fool?

Speak up.

 

[debbiedowner]

1. If insight and experience had ever been used, ObamaCare would have been tossed aside from the start.
There are so many things wrong with the entire concept that those opposed hardly imagined that it would even gain a foothold on the public's imagination.



2. First.....ObamaCare is not healthcare....it's healthcare insurance. President Reagan saw to it that every human being, legal or otherwise, in our country had healthcare in 1986.
"The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA)[1] is an act of the United States Chttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Medical_Treatment_and_Active_Labor_Actongress, passed in 1986..."



3. The Left, American's Bolsheviks, inflated the numbers in need of insurance. Rather than disrupting the entire industry identify the 8-10 million who need and are unable to get healthcare, including those with pre-existing conditions,and provide debit cards as is done for food stamps:

"Food debit cards help 27 million people buy food, similar to the number who need help buying health coverage. In all fifty states, debit card technology has transformed the federal food stamp program, which used to be notorious for fraud and abuse. (Only 2 percent of card users are found to be ineligible, according to the General Accounting Office.) Cards are loaded with a specific dollar amount monthly, depending on family size and income, and allow cardholders to shop anywhere. The same strategy could be adapted to provide purchasing power to families who need help buying high-deductible health coverage. It's what all Americans used to buy (see chart 5), and it's all that's needed for families with moderate incomes, who can afford a routine doctor visit. "
Downgrading Health Care
Downgrading Medical Care



4. Polls of the vast majority with healthcare insurance, 90-95%, were more than satisfied with their insurance.

"So, while one poll with unique wording pegged satisfaction at 95 percent, the average of all relevant polls over a two-year period was eight points lower than what Will cited. However, Will is correct that the levels of satisfaction with one's own health insurance are consistently high. Indeed, they're extraordinarily high, when one considers how rarely surveys find such high levels of agreement among Americans. Since Will portrayed the larger point accurately, even while modestly overstating the number, we rate his comment Mostly True."
Will says that 95 percent of people with health insurance are satisfied with it



5. Based on the amount lost on ObamaCare exchanges..
"The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo"
The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo -- The Motley Fool...
...the government could simply have given a debit card loaded with $15,000 to every one of the 10 million who couldn't afford insurance.



Soooo....who are the history-challenged dopes who bought the scam?

Reliable Democrat Voters

Raise your paws.

First and only since your first paragraph is wrong did not bother to read the rest of the bs post.

ACA, aka obamacare is not health insurance it's a law.

PoliticalChic threads start out with distortions and opinions presented as facts. If you challenge her on the obvious misrepresentations the way you have done, she will deflect and evade the challenge all day long and even for day after day to avoid answering that challenge. That is because her thesis is based on and presented in the original post. The hack will simply name call and hurl insults.

Yep, it most posts by her on this site when you dispute her same old shit. I bet she has never gotten along with many during life. Very hateful person. But she calls me names I call her names. I don't turn the other cheek but I bet when she turns her cheeks ___________.

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. If insight and experience had ever been used, ObamaCare would have been tossed aside from the start.
There are so many things wrong with the entire concept that those opposed hardly imagined that it would even gain a foothold on the public's imagination.



2. First.....ObamaCare is not healthcare....it's healthcare insurance. President Reagan saw to it that every human being, legal or otherwise, in our country had healthcare in 1986.
"The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA)[1] is an act of the United States Chttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Medical_Treatment_and_Active_Labor_Actongress, passed in 1986..."



3. The Left, American's Bolsheviks, inflated the numbers in need of insurance. Rather than disrupting the entire industry identify the 8-10 million who need and are unable to get healthcare, including those with pre-existing conditions,and provide debit cards as is done for food stamps:

"Food debit cards help 27 million people buy food, similar to the number who need help buying health coverage. In all fifty states, debit card technology has transformed the federal food stamp program, which used to be notorious for fraud and abuse. (Only 2 percent of card users are found to be ineligible, according to the General Accounting Office.) Cards are loaded with a specific dollar amount monthly, depending on family size and income, and allow cardholders to shop anywhere. The same strategy could be adapted to provide purchasing power to families who need help buying high-deductible health coverage. It's what all Americans used to buy (see chart 5), and it's all that's needed for families with moderate incomes, who can afford a routine doctor visit. "
Downgrading Health Care
Downgrading Medical Care



4. Polls of the vast majority with healthcare insurance, 90-95%, were more than satisfied with their insurance.

"So, while one poll with unique wording pegged satisfaction at 95 percent, the average of all relevant polls over a two-year period was eight points lower than what Will cited. However, Will is correct that the levels of satisfaction with one's own health insurance are consistently high. Indeed, they're extraordinarily high, when one considers how rarely surveys find such high levels of agreement among Americans. Since Will portrayed the larger point accurately, even while modestly overstating the number, we rate his comment Mostly True."
Will says that 95 percent of people with health insurance are satisfied with it



5. Based on the amount lost on ObamaCare exchanges..
"The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo"
The Federal Government's $146 Billion Obamacare Boo-Boo -- The Motley Fool...
...the government could simply have given a debit card loaded with $15,000 to every one of the 10 million who couldn't afford insurance.



Soooo....who are the history-challenged dopes who bought the scam?

Reliable Democrat Voters

Raise your paws.

First and only since your first paragraph is wrong did not bother to read the rest of the bs post.

ACA, aka obamacare is not health insurance it's a law.

PoliticalChic threads start out with distortions and opinions presented as facts. If you challenge her on the obvious misrepresentations the way you have done, she will deflect and evade the challenge all day long and even for day after day to avoid answering that challenge. That is because her thesis is based on and presented in the original post. The hack will simply name call and hurl insults.

Time to skewer yet another dunce.


How about a substantive post from you....both to see if that's possible, and to enjoy the comedy gold:
Are you here to defend the Bolshevik plan, or because the beatings I've administered to you still sting?


Now....what do you see as it's good points in ObamaCare?

Let's have your considered view before I thrash you yet again.


Waiting.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"did not bother to read the rest of the bs post."

And so we learn early on why you are debbieDuncedowner.



Didn't you figure out why that strategy didn't work so well in school?

I suggest before you spout your sloppy trap you get up to speed on the LAW. I am.

An organization of stock market analysts offered the following.....

....and, coincidentally, it applies to you as well:

"It's Time to Call This Obamacare Experiment an Utter Failure
Although this program was designed to facilitate competition among insurers, it's cost taxpayers more than $1.7 billion and left more than 800,000 people searching for a new health plan."
It's Time to Call This Obamacare Experiment an Utter Failure -- The Motley Fool

Yep the motley fool tells it all. FOOL

So you are a supporter of the Bolshevik policy called ObamaCare?

Excellent.


You never learned to question, to look at the underpinnings of your less-than-intuitive understanding of eschatological world views, or the political basis for many legal decisions.

Which makes my identification of you as a dunce,spot on.


Please, buy a ticket on the clue train…

Please buy a ticket out of this country dumbshit.

The pattern continues: demand an intelligent post, and all the Liberals can do is default to vulgarity.

So....a verification of how I described you, debbieDuncedowner.

Don't ever change.