Can you cite scripture where jebus makes such a clarification about charity?
I DARE you.
Again, you already did. I am amazed how you can't see this.
Now this is a willful misinterpretation of the meaning of what is written for political points. Let's look at the verse in context of the entire chapter, mmkay? You've committed the same sin you just complained about.
The given verse is bolded. But look at some other verses used to give context to the whole statement. The kickers are in red.
Gal 6:1 Brothers, if someone is caught in a sin, you who are spiritual should restore him gently. But watch yourself, or you also may be tempted.
Gal 6:2 Carry each other's burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ.
Gal 6:3 If anyone thinks he is something when he is nothing, he deceives himself.
Gal 6:4 Each one should test his own actions. Then he can take pride in himself, without comparing himself to somebody else,
Gal 6:5 for each one should carry his own load.
Gal 6:6 Anyone who receives instruction in the word must share all good things with his instructor.
Gal 6:7 Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows.
Gal 6:8 The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature [fn] will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.
Gal 6:9 Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up.
Gal 6:10 Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers.
Gal 6:11 See what large letters I use as I write to you with my own hand!
Gal 6:12 Those who want to make a good impression outwardly are trying to compel you to be circumcised. The only reason they do this is to avoid being persecuted for the cross of Christ.
Gal 6:13 Not even those who are circumcised obey the law, yet they want you to be circumcised that they may boast about your flesh.
Gal 6:14 May I never boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which [fn] the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.
Gal 6:15 Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything; what counts is a new creation.
Gal 6:16 Peace and mercy to all who follow this rule, even to the Israel of God.
Gal 6:17 Finally, let no one cause me trouble, for I bear on my body the marks of Jesus.
Gal 6:18 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit, brothers. Amen.
Taken from Blue Letter Bible - Home Page
Well what do you know about that? Three admonishments that we bear the responsibility for our own acts. We are ENCOURAGED to help each other carry our burden, but are RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR OWN BURDENS! Also, you can plainly see that there is no hint given that this is a collective encouragement, but an individual encouragement. To each person, not group, not government.
We are not responsible for the lives of anyone other than ourselves. Christ commands us to follow Him and not worry about how He will deal with the lives of others.
Have you ever considered that God is a practitioner of tough love, and when you enable someone to escape the tough love they have gotten themselves in, you further exacerbate the problem God is trying to save them from? The Bible is full of examples on how He used tough love on His Chosen People.
If you give a five spot to an alcoholic on the street for food, how are you helping them when you know damn well they'll be buying a drink with it? Are you better off just assuming your taxes are going to alcoholism treatment agencies and that man can get help there and end your guilt from seeing a trainwreck of a human being? If the conviction is put on your heart to help someone, God put it there for YOU as an individual to help them as you best can. Not for you to call your state representative to increase funding for drug abuse treatment facilities. One life, one conviction, your choice, their choice.
Don't abdicate your responsibility if your heart is convicted.
So there we have it. The issue is settled.
Jesus is TOTALLY AGAINST any kind of government assistance for the poor and needy. He hates them as much as the GOP. He would be in favor of cutting off SS, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, subsidized housing, Head Start, Aid To Families with Dependant Children, etc. Oh...never mind the fact that we can't back any of that up in His living Word. That's just a mere inconvenience. We just happen to "know it".
Now....if we can get all of these loving, hard nosed Christians to step up to the plate and start REALLY contributing to charities. You know, the ones who could not possibly carry the load and was the driving force for the need and creation of welfare? Of course, we really should cut them and their children off and toss them into the street and simply trust in God that they will be ok.
Now that's what REAL Christians would do!!
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Now this is a willful misinterpretation of the meaning of what is written for political points. Let's look at the verse in context of the entire chapter, mmkay? You've committed the same sin you just complained about.
The given verse is bolded. But look at some other verses used to give context to the whole statement. The kickers are in red.
Gal 6:1 Brothers, if someone is caught in a sin, you who are spiritual should restore him gently. But watch yourself, or you also may be tempted.
Gal 6:2 Carry each other's burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ.
Gal 6:3 If anyone thinks he is something when he is nothing, he deceives himself.
Gal 6:4 Each one should test his own actions. Then he can take pride in himself, without comparing himself to somebody else,
Gal 6:5 for each one should carry his own load.
Gal 6:6 Anyone who receives instruction in the word must share all good things with his instructor.
Gal 6:7 Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows.
Gal 6:8 The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature [fn] will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.
Gal 6:9 Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up.
Gal 6:10 Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers.
Gal 6:11 See what large letters I use as I write to you with my own hand!
Gal 6:12 Those who want to make a good impression outwardly are trying to compel you to be circumcised. The only reason they do this is to avoid being persecuted for the cross of Christ.
Gal 6:13 Not even those who are circumcised obey the law, yet they want you to be circumcised that they may boast about your flesh.
Gal 6:14 May I never boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which [fn] the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.
Gal 6:15 Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything; what counts is a new creation.
Gal 6:16 Peace and mercy to all who follow this rule, even to the Israel of God.
Gal 6:17 Finally, let no one cause me trouble, for I bear on my body the marks of Jesus.
Gal 6:18 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit, brothers. Amen.
Taken from Blue Letter Bible - Home Page
Well what do you know about that? Three admonishments that we bear the responsibility for our own acts. We are ENCOURAGED to help each other carry our burden, but are RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR OWN BURDENS! Also, you can plainly see that there is no hint given that this is a collective encouragement, but an individual encouragement. To each person, not group, not government.
We are not responsible for the lives of anyone other than ourselves. Christ commands us to follow Him and not worry about how He will deal with the lives of others.
Have you ever considered that God is a practitioner of tough love, and when you enable someone to escape the tough love they have gotten themselves in, you further exacerbate the problem God is trying to save them from? The Bible is full of examples on how He used tough love on His Chosen People.
If you give a five spot to an alcoholic on the street for food, how are you helping them when you know damn well they'll be buying a drink with it? Are you better off just assuming your taxes are going to alcoholism treatment agencies and that man can get help there and end your guilt from seeing a trainwreck of a human being? If the conviction is put on your heart to help someone, God put it there for YOU as an individual to help them as you best can. Not for you to call your state representative to increase funding for drug abuse treatment facilities. One life, one conviction, your choice, their choice.
Don't abdicate your responsibility if your heart is convicted.
neither carrying one's own load nor reaping what one sows OR carrying his own load diminishes each single statement that he was making about a myriad of characteristics that his flock should represent. This passage isn't mutually exclusive.
Being personally responsible isn't an excuse to sidestep charity. and, it's especially not an excuse to believe that your bank account and TAX RATE is more important to jebus than your ability to be lovingly charitable as he specifically stated.
ps, if you are ******* retarded enough to believe that some "tough love jesus" wants you to ignore the plight of your fellow humanity then, please, let me know what denomination you subscribe to so that I can avoid that cult altogether.
Luke 16:19-31 (New International Version, ©2011)
The Rich Man and Lazarus
19 “There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20 At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores 21 and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.
22 “The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24 So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’
25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’
27 “He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, 28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’
29 “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’
30 “‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’
31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’”
Now this is a willful misinterpretation of the meaning of what is written for political points. Let's look at the verse in context of the entire chapter, mmkay? You've committed the same sin you just complained about.
The given verse is bolded. But look at some other verses used to give context to the whole statement. The kickers are in red.
Gal 6:1 Brothers, if someone is caught in a sin, you who are spiritual should restore him gently. But watch yourself, or you also may be tempted.
Gal 6:2 Carry each other's burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ.
Gal 6:3 If anyone thinks he is something when he is nothing, he deceives himself.
Gal 6:4 Each one should test his own actions. Then he can take pride in himself, without comparing himself to somebody else,
Gal 6:5 for each one should carry his own load.
Gal 6:6 Anyone who receives instruction in the word must share all good things with his instructor.
Gal 6:7 Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows.
Gal 6:8 The one who sows to please his sinful nature, from that nature [fn] will reap destruction; the one who sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life.
Gal 6:9 Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up.
Gal 6:10 Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers.
Gal 6:11 See what large letters I use as I write to you with my own hand!
Gal 6:12 Those who want to make a good impression outwardly are trying to compel you to be circumcised. The only reason they do this is to avoid being persecuted for the cross of Christ.
Gal 6:13 Not even those who are circumcised obey the law, yet they want you to be circumcised that they may boast about your flesh.
Gal 6:14 May I never boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, through which [fn] the world has been crucified to me, and I to the world.
Gal 6:15 Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything; what counts is a new creation.
Gal 6:16 Peace and mercy to all who follow this rule, even to the Israel of God.
Gal 6:17 Finally, let no one cause me trouble, for I bear on my body the marks of Jesus.
Gal 6:18 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit, brothers. Amen.
Taken from Blue Letter Bible - Home Page
Well what do you know about that? Three admonishments that we bear the responsibility for our own acts. We are ENCOURAGED to help each other carry our burden, but are RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR OWN BURDENS! Also, you can plainly see that there is no hint given that this is a collective encouragement, but an individual encouragement. To each person, not group, not government.
We are not responsible for the lives of anyone other than ourselves. Christ commands us to follow Him and not worry about how He will deal with the lives of others.
Have you ever considered that God is a practitioner of tough love, and when you enable someone to escape the tough love they have gotten themselves in, you further exacerbate the problem God is trying to save them from? The Bible is full of examples on how He used tough love on His Chosen People.
If you give a five spot to an alcoholic on the street for food, how are you helping them when you know damn well they'll be buying a drink with it? Are you better off just assuming your taxes are going to alcoholism treatment agencies and that man can get help there and end your guilt from seeing a trainwreck of a human being? If the conviction is put on your heart to help someone, God put it there for YOU as an individual to help them as you best can. Not for you to call your state representative to increase funding for drug abuse treatment facilities. One life, one conviction, your choice, their choice.
Don't abdicate your responsibility if your heart is convicted.
neither carrying one's own load nor reaping what one sows OR carrying his own load diminishes each single statement that he was making about a myriad of characteristics that his flock should represent. This passage isn't mutually exclusive.
Being personally responsible isn't an excuse to sidestep charity. and, it's especially not an excuse to believe that your bank account and TAX RATE is more important to jebus than your ability to be lovingly charitable as he specifically stated.
ps, if you are ******* retarded enough to believe that some "tough love jesus" wants you to ignore the plight of your fellow humanity then, please, let me know what denomination you subscribe to so that I can avoid that cult altogether.
Luke 16:19-31 (New International Version, ©2011)
The Rich Man and Lazarus
19 “There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20 At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores 21 and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.
22 “The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24 So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’
25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’
27 “He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, 28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’
29 “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’
30 “‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’
31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’”
Well, I make it a point to never listen to an atheist tell me what a Christian is. And no Goose... he doesn't.
neither carrying one's own load nor reaping what one sows OR carrying his own load diminishes each single statement that he was making about a myriad of characteristics that his flock should represent. This passage isn't mutually exclusive.
Being personally responsible isn't an excuse to sidestep charity. and, it's especially not an excuse to believe that your bank account and TAX RATE is more important to jebus than your ability to be lovingly charitable as he specifically stated.
ps, if you are ******* retarded enough to believe that some "tough love jesus" wants you to ignore the plight of your fellow humanity then, please, let me know what denomination you subscribe to so that I can avoid that cult altogether.
Luke 16:19-31 (New International Version, ©2011)
The Rich Man and Lazarus
19 “There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20 At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores 21 and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.
22 “The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24 So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’
25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’
27 “He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, 28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’
29 “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’
30 “‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’
31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’”
For an atheist you sure have an amazingly good understanding of what a true Christian is.
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Well, I make it a point to never listen to an atheist tell me what a Christian is.neither carrying one's own load nor reaping what one sows OR carrying his own load diminishes each single statement that he was making about a myriad of characteristics that his flock should represent. This passage isn't mutually exclusive.
Being personally responsible isn't an excuse to sidestep charity. and, it's especially not an excuse to believe that your bank account and TAX RATE is more important to jebus than your ability to be lovingly charitable as he specifically stated.
ps, if you are ******* retarded enough to believe that some "tough love jesus" wants you to ignore the plight of your fellow humanity then, please, let me know what denomination you subscribe to so that I can avoid that cult altogether.
Luke 16:19-31 (New International Version, ©2011)
The Rich Man and Lazarus
19 “There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20 At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores 21 and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.
22 “The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24 So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’
25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’
27 “He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, 28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’
29 “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’
30 “‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’
31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’”
For an atheist you sure have an amazingly good understanding of what a true Christian is.
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Well, I make it a point to never listen to an atheist tell me what a Christian is. And no Goose... he doesn't.neither carrying one's own load nor reaping what one sows OR carrying his own load diminishes each single statement that he was making about a myriad of characteristics that his flock should represent. This passage isn't mutually exclusive.
Being personally responsible isn't an excuse to sidestep charity. and, it's especially not an excuse to believe that your bank account and TAX RATE is more important to jebus than your ability to be lovingly charitable as he specifically stated.
ps, if you are ******* retarded enough to believe that some "tough love jesus" wants you to ignore the plight of your fellow humanity then, please, let me know what denomination you subscribe to so that I can avoid that cult altogether.
Luke 16:19-31 (New International Version, ©2011)
The Rich Man and Lazarus
19 “There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20 At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores 21 and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.
22 “The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24 So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’
25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’
27 “He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, 28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’
29 “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’
30 “‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’
31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’”
For an atheist you sure have an amazingly good understanding of what a true Christian is.
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Well, I make it a point to never listen to an atheist tell me what a Christian is.For an atheist you sure have an amazingly good understanding of what a true Christian is.
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Yep, like a Queer tryin' to describe marriage.
Ya' mean like liberal Perez Hilton who calls himself a "queer"?
