Oddball
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Yeah...And they can't even keep a lid on those costs.I thought the military was part of the government, so therefore, healthcare for the military is ALREADY under a government system.
Time to pony up more, pal.
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Yeah...And they can't even keep a lid on those costs.I thought the military was part of the government, so therefore, healthcare for the military is ALREADY under a government system.
No.Harbison also says Obama has suggested that since the military is volunteer, they should pay for their own health care.http://www.lcsun-news.com/las_cruces-opinion/ci_20954561/your-view-letters-editor-june-28
I'm sure it comforts your little mind to feel that way, but no. If you think you have a point, you'll have to find where I said I want teachers and other government workers to have to pay more into their healthcare plans.Oh, but the military works for him personally. They should be honored that he thought about them.
I am so glad I no longer wear the uniform under his command.
That's because you're a partisan loser.
It takes a special kind of hypocrite to be all about having teachers and other gov't workers having to pay more into their healthcare plans and then turn and say something like "I am so glad I no longer wear the uniform under his command" in response to a thread like this.
To the extent they talk shit and can't back it up?What? you didn't think the left wouldn't be emboldened by this victory?
What? you didn't think the left wouldn't be emboldened by this victory?
The program is aimed at military retirees, in order to wean them off of TRICARE and get them to participate in other programs (also in the bill) so there are more resources for active duty.
I'm sure it comforts your little mind to feel that way, but no. If you think you have a point, you'll have to find where I said I want teachers and other government workers to have to pay more into their healthcare plans.Oh, but the military works for him personally. They should be honored that he thought about them.
I am so glad I no longer wear the uniform under his command.
That's because you're a partisan loser.
It takes a special kind of hypocrite to be all about having teachers and other gov't workers having to pay more into their healthcare plans and then turn and say something like "I am so glad I no longer wear the uniform under his command" in response to a thread like this.
Please note I am responsible ONLY for the things I say; not for anyone else's words.
What? you didn't think the left wouldn't be emboldened by this victory?
Citizens United: The leveling of the playing field with Unions and other leftwing citadels of political cash? This is equivalent???What? you didn't think the left wouldn't be emboldened by this victory?
you mean like the right was after citizens united; and after bush v gore; and after ledbetter, and after heller?
just wondering.
I don't necessarily have an issue with this just yet. One, i don't know what they're already paying so my opinion could change based on that, but I don't automatically have a problem with raising their premiums. Military spending is out of control. It is by far and large our biggest expenditure so the costs need to be reined in. All the rest of us are paying more for our healthcare plans. I don't see why military families should automatically be exempt.
Here's a real link, not some talking points from a right wing site..............
President Obama proposed new TRICARE co-pays and fees, as well as a review of military retirement benefits, in his fiscal 2013 budget unveiled Monday.
The administration provided new details on Defense Department personnel cuts first proposed in January.
The budget includes new TRICARE co-pays, additional increases to TRICARE Prime enrollment fees, initiation of standard and extra annual enrollment fees, and adjustments to deductibles and catastrophic coverage caps.
The budget proposal also modifies pharmacy co-pays to encourage the use of less expensive mail-order and military treatment facility pharmacies, and includes modest annual fees for Medicare-covered beneficiaries older than 65 (TRICARE for Life).
The administration said these changes would save Defense an estimated $12.9 billion in discretionary funding and $4.7 billion in mandatory savings on Medicare-eligible retiree health care over the next five years. It is projected to save the department $12.1 billion over the next 10 years.
Defense implemented TRICARE Prime fee increases for new retiree enrollees beginning in fiscal 2012; under the 2013 proposal, the fees would be phased in based on annual retirement pay.
The TRICARE fee increases mean that military retirees in upper-income tiers would see their health care contributions nearly quadruple over the next five years, Defense Comptroller Robert Hale told reporters Monday. Its quite generous compensation compared to private sector plans, Hale said, adding the department could revisit the personnel figures -- which make up $135.1 billion of the fiscal 2013 base budget -- if the economy were to improve.
The proposal includes some good news for military families: It provides $48.7 billion for the Defense Unified Medical Budget to support the Military Health System and $8.5 billion to support the well-being and psychological health of the military family, ensuring excellence in military childrens education and their development, developing career and educational opportunities for military spouses, and increasing child care, budget documents said.
The presidents budget proposal provides a 1.7 percent increase to basic military pay in calendar 2013, the full increase authorized by current law
Budget request includes TRICARE cut, military retirement details - Defense - GovExec.com
It looks like this program is aimed mainly at getting retirees to use some other form of health insurance other than TRICARE.
Then you can't back up your claims.I'm sure it comforts your little mind to feel that way, but no. If you think you have a point, you'll have to find where I said I want teachers and other government workers to have to pay more into their healthcare plans.That's because you're a partisan loser.
It takes a special kind of hypocrite to be all about having teachers and other gov't workers having to pay more into their healthcare plans and then turn and say something like "I am so glad I no longer wear the uniform under his command" in response to a thread like this.
Please note I am responsible ONLY for the things I say; not for anyone else's words.
I'm don't dave enough to search...
Now he is attacking U.S. Soldiers wallets. I am against this measure. He is suppose to be helping the soldiers, not hindering them. The military is our first line of defense and I don't think that they should have any burdens put upon them by their Commander n Chief, especially their healthcare.
Obama to Soldiers: Pay Up
Threatens to veto bill unless it hikes health care fees for service members
Obama to Soldiers: Pay Up | Washington Free Beacon
: Washington Free Beacon Staff - June 29, 2012 10:22 am
The Obama administration on Friday threatened to veto a defense appropriations bill in part because it does not include higher health care fees for members of the military.
The Administration is disappointed that the Congress did not incorporate the requested TRICARE fee initiatives into either the appropriation or authorization legislation, the White House wrote in an official policy statement expressing opposition to the bill, which the House approved in May
As I said Bush III.
Remeber Bush trying to cut veterans HC benefits?
Then you can't back up your claims.I'm sure it comforts your little mind to feel that way, but no. If you think you have a point, you'll have to find where I said I want teachers and other government workers to have to pay more into their healthcare plans.
Please note I am responsible ONLY for the things I say; not for anyone else's words.
I'm don't dave enough to search...
Dismissed.
The White House is proposing a set of initiatives in its FY 2012 DoD budget to better balance health-care costs and revenue. One of the more controversial proposals is an increase of $2.50 per month for enrollment in TRICARE Prime (or $5.00 a month per retiree family). If enacted, this would be the first increase in enrollment fees since the benefit was introduced in 1995.
U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), the ranking Republican on the Senate Armed Services Personnel Subcommittee, suggested that the time has come for Congress to consider raising fees. “I understand what the administration is trying to do. We have to move this debate forward on sustainability,” he said at the hearing. “We haven’t had a premium increase since 1989. Some of the fees to be increased proposed by the administration, I think, [are] something we should all consider.”
You mean first line of offence.Now he is attacking U.S. Soldiers wallets. I am against this measure. He is suppose to be helping the soldiers, not hindering them. The military is our first line of defense and I don't think that they should have any burdens put upon them by their Commander n Chief, especially their healthcare.
Obama to Soldiers: Pay Up
Threatens to veto bill unless it hikes health care fees for service members
Obama to Soldiers: Pay Up | Washington Free Beacon
: Washington Free Beacon Staff - June 29, 2012 10:22 am
The Obama administration on Friday threatened to veto a defense appropriations bill in part because it does not include higher health care fees for members of the military.
The Administration is disappointed that the Congress did not incorporate the requested TRICARE fee initiatives into either the appropriation or authorization legislation, the White House wrote in an official policy statement expressing opposition to the bill, which the House approved in May
Oh, it files straight and true. You based your claim on something I never said, and now demand I validate your delusion.Then you can't back up your claims.I'm don't dave enough to search...
Dismissed.
Nice try but it ain't gonna fly: