Obama says the military are fighting on his behalf

[Sallow]

In analysis of Obama's true agenda, it is wise to remember what he said...be it a year ago, four years ago or back when he wrote his "memoirs".

Obama is definitely and egomaniac. I think maybe he uses a uses a lot of angel dust.

LOL...no it wasn't. It was HateBear googling "troops" and "Obama" looking for ANYTHING she can negative about the President. Way to provide troll cover though.

Nonsense. Being "old news" does not rebut the claim. That's almost as poor an excuse for dismissing a claim as it is when you deny the truth based upon the source.

The point...that Obama is an egomaniac...is demonstrated in the linked article. The fact that it happened a year ago is irrelevant.

And what claim is that?

 

[Sallow]

That's the problem. O-boom-a thinks the Military is his political tool. Troops are bogged down in God-forsaken Afghanistan and they can't even call in an artillery strike for fear of being brought up on charges of murder if a civilian is killed but he orders drones to kill Americans without due process.

 

[Sallow]

If the army were there to uphold the constitution, it would have refused to go into Iraq.

that isn't true. We already were in Iraq prior to 2003. In fact, we have been in Iraq since 1991.

Well no.

It is true.

The Constitution is pretty specific about war.

Congress and the President have found a way around that for quite some time.

 

[there4eyeM]

If the army were there to uphold the constitution, it would have refused to go into Iraq.

that isn't true. We already were in Iraq prior to 2003. In fact, we have been in Iraq since 1991.

While that does not refute what was stated, let's put it another way:

If the army were there to uphold the constitution, it would refuse to carry out constitutionally illegal orders.

 

[Sallow]

President Obama: Troops 'fighting on my behalf' - Spokane Conservative | Examiner.com

I thought they are there to uphold the constitution.. He is just an EGO maniac. UGH

What? Troops can't multitask?

Yeah..they are fighting on his behalf, your behalf and to defend the US constitution.

Here's the other thing.

They are fighting on behalf of every other American in this country.

Go troops!

the oath of office is to support & defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign & domestic. We obey the lawful orders of the President of the United States as Commander-in-Chief, but we fight on behalf of the American People & the Constitution.

And what?

The President isn't part of the "American People" club?

Since when?

 

[Katzndogz]

Don't you all understand what Fight for your King means?

 

[rdean]

President Obama: Troops 'fighting on my behalf' - Spokane Conservative | Examiner.com

I thought they are there to uphold the constitution.. He is just an EGO maniac. UGH

On the behalf of all Americans. You guys just won't admit Obama is an American.

 

[rdean]

What? Troops can't multitask?

Yeah..they are fighting on his behalf, your behalf and to defend the US constitution.

Here's the other thing.

They are fighting on behalf of every other American in this country.

Go troops!

the oath of office is to support & defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign & domestic. We obey the lawful orders of the President of the United States as Commander-in-Chief, but we fight on behalf of the American People & the Constitution.

And what?

The President isn't part of the "American People" club?

Since when?

Since he was born in Kenya to "blaaaahhhhh people".

 

[cutter]

Is it really this slow of a news day that we have to discuss something the President said A YEAR AGO?

Move on, nothing to see here.

 

[bitterlyclingin]

Comrade Obama is, and has been, afflicted with a severe case of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. The last two world leaders who suffered from the same affliction were Joseph Stalin and Adolph Hitler. Between them, they created a lot of dead people. Just something to think about.
Germany was the most culturally advanced, most sophisticated, and best educated nation on the continent of Europe on January 29, 1933. The inflection point, the point of no return in Germany for the Holocaust and WWII was when Hitler forced the German Army to swear its allegiance to him, personally, instead of to the German State, as before.
Comrade Obama has done, and continues to do, a lot of firing and relieving from commands with his Military Generals since coming into office, an activity Hitler engaged in with a vengeance as well, and who can forget Uncle Joe Stalins murdering almost his entire military officer corps just before Hitler launched "Operation Barbarossa" June 20, 1941, a maneuver which subsequently allowed the German Army to penetrate an unprecedented 600 miles deep into Soviet territory along a two thousand mile wide front in three months.
As a result of Obama's maneuvering he may be very close to correct in his summary. There's that still nebulous, unverified story of Africom Commander General Ham being relieved of his command and placed under arrest at gunpoint by an Obammunist subordinate when General Ham chose to mount a rescue mission for the Americans in peril under fire in Benghazi in spite of orders to stand down.

We should be afraid, very afraid. For those of us on the Right, we should correctly assume we're all potential drone strike targets, although bullets are far cheaper than HellFire missiles, and DHS has a lot of bullets, we're told.

 

[Sallow]

Comrade Obama is, and has been, afflicted with a severe case of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. The last two world leaders who suffered from the same affliction were Joseph Stalin and Adolph Hitler. Between them, they created a lot of dead people. Just something to think about.
Germany was the most culturally advanced, most sophisticated, and best educated nation on the continent of Europe on January 29, 1933. The inflection point, the point of no return in Germany for the Holocaust and WWII was when Hitler forced the German Army to swear its allegiance to him, personally, instead of to the German State, as before.
Comrade Obama has done, and continues to do, a lot of firing and relieving from commands with his Military Generals since coming into office, an activity Hitler engaged in with a vengeance as well, and who can forget Uncle Joe Stalins murdering almost his entire military officer corps just before Hitler launched "Operation Barbarossa" June 20, 1941, a maneuver which subsequently allowed the German Army to penetrate an unprecedented 600 miles deep into Soviet territory along a two thousand mile wide front in three months.
As a result of Obama's maneuvering he may be very close to correct in his summary. There's that still nebulous, unverified story of Africom Commander General Ham being relieved of his command and placed under arrest at gunpoint by an Obammunist subordinate when General Ham chose to mount a rescue mission for the Americans in peril under fire in Benghazi in spite of orders to stand down.

We should be afraid, very afraid. For those of us on the Right, we should correctly assume we're all potential drone strike targets, although bullets are far cheaper than HellFire missiles, and DHS has a lot of bullets, we're told.

You folks have been calling Democrats commies since FDR.

At this point..when it comes from you folks..it's lost it's meaning.

 

[there4eyeM]

The level of debate in the US on this subject makes it difficult to discuss it at all. Names that have meaning for some have others for others.

'Liberal' means the opposite thing in Europe as it does here. If one expects the listener to have the same meaning, one could be mistaken.

'Socialist', of course, has become an epithet, condemning the following conversation to didactic, ideological dogma. Socialism can mean that a small country, that does not have the diversity and riches of America, can still have organized, affordable national services, goods and defense.

'Capitalism' is not a religion, or even an ideology. It is merely a system, one system, that can work. It goes unmentioned in the Ten Commandments.

Let's look at what's not working and try something else. Past is past. We aren't where we were and we never will be.

 

[Katzndogz]

obama isn't a communist. He's not even a socialist. Both communism and socialism allows for some individual autonomy. The peasants aren't permitted much, but they can decide how they want their government provided potatoes prepared for dinner.

obama is worse than the most oppressive of communist leaders. He is far more controlling than any socialist. obama is a utopian which is worse than both. There is no end to pursuit of utopian ideal. The control is absolute and governs everything. There is no end to the punishment of the people because the punishment will make them a better people according to the utopian ideal.

 

[Sallow]

obama isn't a communist. He's not even a socialist. Both communism and socialism allows for some individual autonomy. The peasants aren't permitted much, but they can decide how they want their government provided potatoes prepared for dinner.

obama is worse than the most oppressive of communist leaders. He is far more controlling than any socialist. obama is a utopian which is worse than both. There is no end to pursuit of utopian ideal. The control is absolute and governs everything. There is no end to the punishment of the people because the punishment will make them a better people according to the utopian ideal.

And your evidence of this is what, exactly?

 

[aaronleland]

obama isn't a communist. He's not even a socialist. Both communism and socialism allows for some individual autonomy. The peasants aren't permitted much, but they can decide how they want their government provided potatoes prepared for dinner.

obama is worse than the most oppressive of communist leaders. He is far more controlling than any socialist. obama is a utopian which is worse than both. There is no end to pursuit of utopian ideal. The control is absolute and governs everything. There is no end to the punishment of the people because the punishment will make them a better people according to the utopian ideal.

And your evidence of this is what, exactly?

Rush Limbaugh told me so.

 

[Katzndogz]

Look at his policies, his positions. They are all about exerting increasing pressure on individuals to force them into his ideal utopian mold.

Nothing proves how correct I am like obama himself. But then if you read any utopian philosophies you would already know that.

 

[asaratis]

LOL...no it wasn't. It was HateBear googling "troops" and "Obama" looking for ANYTHING she can negative about the President. Way to provide troll cover though.

Nonsense. Being "old news" does not rebut the claim. That's almost as poor an excuse for dismissing a claim as it is when you deny the truth based upon the source.

The point...that Obama is an egomaniac...is demonstrated in the linked article. The fact that it happened a year ago is irrelevant.

And what claim is that?

Whatever claim is being made. It's generic. The practiced tactic of the liberal mind is to deny something (claimed) by virtue of the fact that it is old news. Another stupid tactic is to reject something based only on its source. Liberals use a lot (shitload) of each!

 

[Oldguy]

Troops fight on behalf of the American people. This may come as a shocker to the Birther crowd, but Obama is an American citizen. Nothing he said was untrue.

And, he's the Commander in Chief, civilian head of all our military forces who do his bidding because he has the Constitutional authority to direct them. When bids them "Go here and do this," they go here and do this. When he bids them, "Go there and do that," they go there and do that. It's his authority to do that and their responsibility to do his bidding.

 

[hortysir]

President Obama: Troops 'fighting on my behalf' - Spokane Conservative | Examiner.com

I thought they are there to uphold the constitution.. He is just an EGO maniac. UGH

What? Troops can't multitask?

Yeah..they are fighting on his behalf, your behalf and to defend the US constitution.

Here's the other thing.

They are fighting on behalf of every other American in this country.

Go troops!

QFT

 

[KGB]

If the army were there to uphold the constitution, it would have refused to go into Iraq.

that isn't true. We already were in Iraq prior to 2003. In fact, we have been in Iraq since 1991.

Well no.

It is true.

The Constitution is pretty specific about war.

Congress and the President have found a way around that for quite some time.

the Constitution is actually quite vague about the subject. It states that Congress can declare war, but it also lists the POTUS as Commander-in-Chief. It doesn't specifically call out what those authorities are. There have been numerous legislative pieces since then such as the War Powers Resolution & Authorization for Use of Military Force against Terrorists (AUMF) which have greatly expanded Presidential authority. The Supreme Court ruled in Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer, Presidential Commander-in Chief powers increase when Congressional intent supports the actions taken by the Commander-in-Chief. The AUMF served as that expression of Congressional intent.

Commander in Chief Powers | LII / Legal Information Institute

So in fact, these were legal authorities exercised by the POTUS.