Obama issues another executive order bypassing Congress

[g5000]

Obama to sign executive order capping student loan payments

The action is aimed at people who took out loans before October 2007 or stopped borrowing in October 2011. The majority of students with loans already have the option to limit payments to 10 percent of their income because of student loan legislation Obama signed in 2010 and regulations the administration adopted in 2012.

So Congress already approved legislation giving Obama this authority. I would strongly suggest reading that legislation before hauling out the tired old "bypassing Congress" meme once again.

If the dunces ever took the time to actually read some Executive Orders, they would find that a great many of them are directions by a President to the Executive branch to carry out the laws passed by Congress.

Congress will pass a law, and that law will contain instructions for the Executive to write the regulations which flesh out the law.


So how about proving Obama is "bypassing Congress" before making fools of yourselves?

"Ah, **** that! I heard one of my favorite piss pourers say it, and I drank it. My masters said it, I believe it, that settles it."

uh....that was already pointed out in the op.....

And yet you said he is "bypassing Congress". I bet the workings of all this didn't even sink into your head until I pointed it out.

Hack.

why didn't Congress make this change if it makes things so much "simpler".....?

I was right. You don't understand how our system works at all. It isn't Congress's job to make that change. It is the Executive's.

 

[jillian]

Is this a dictatorship or what.....?

In a bid to give one of the Democrat's vital constituencies a lhand, President Obama will issue an executive order today that will cap student loan repayments at 10% of a borrower's monthly income.
....

The economic reasoning behind the maneuver is questionable, however, Delisle said. The president is making the case that “we need to help [student loan debtors] with debt so they can go into even more debt,” such as taking out a mortgage to buy a home. But student loans already helped these borrowers consume beyond their means, he said.
....

With no discernible economic benefit, there's only one reason to make another end run around Congress to get this done; politics. Young people are a vital cog in the Democratic party coalition so making them happy - and willing to vote in November - trumps common sense and rational public policy.

The student loan debt crisis is so bad that some Democrats are talking about a bailout; debt forgiveness along with payments to lenders. I know it's gauche to point out, but back in the 1980's when expanding federal student loan programs was being discussed, many predicted the scenario that is playing out today. It's small comfort that so many were right, but it also should be a lesson in out of control federal spending

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reagan signed 381 executive orders. that's what presidents do, whining pigeon.

List of United States federal executive orders - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[jillian]

And all you libs are missing the point of the thread -

Instead of going through Congress to enact or amend a law, King Barry ignores the process and does it himself. This only shows his disdain for the constitution.

this congress made it clear that it has no intention of governing.

and presidents sign executive orders. probably something the right needs to get over.

List of United States federal executive orders - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Votto]

Is this a dictatorship or what.....?

In a bid to give one of the Democrat's vital constituencies a lhand, President Obama will issue an executive order today that will cap student loan repayments at 10% of a borrower's monthly income.
....

The economic reasoning behind the maneuver is questionable, however, Delisle said. The president is making the case that “we need to help [student loan debtors] with debt so they can go into even more debt,” such as taking out a mortgage to buy a home. But student loans already helped these borrowers consume beyond their means, he said.
....

With no discernible economic benefit, there's only one reason to make another end run around Congress to get this done; politics. Young people are a vital cog in the Democratic party coalition so making them happy - and willing to vote in November - trumps common sense and rational public policy.

The student loan debt crisis is so bad that some Democrats are talking about a bailout; debt forgiveness along with payments to lenders. I know it's gauche to point out, but back in the 1980's when expanding federal student loan programs was being discussed, many predicted the scenario that is playing out today. It's small comfort that so many were right, but it also should be a lesson in out of control federal spending

Blog: Obama issues another executive order bypassing Congress

It all makes sense really.

The government and higher education have a symbiotic relationship.

Universities indoctrinate their students to be statists and, in return, the statists continue to allow tuition rates to skyrocket unabated as their reward. The government makes it work by lowering interest rates on the students massive loans. However, now the taxpayer will be picking up part of the expense. Of course, the federal government cares nothing about massive debt, so it's no skin off their backs.

 

[Mustang]

And all you libs are missing the point of the thread -

Instead of going through Congress to enact or amend a law, King Barry ignores the process and does it himself. This only shows his disdain for the constitution.

Once a federal agency is in place, it doesn't necessarily take an act of Congress to make operational changes if an increase in funding isn't required. If that was the case, nothing would ever get done because Congress would simply be completely overwhelmed with endless requests for changes which are little more than administrative operational changes.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Obama to sign executive order capping student loan payments



So Congress already approved legislation giving Obama this authority. I would strongly suggest reading that legislation before hauling out the tired old "bypassing Congress" meme once again.

If the dunces ever took the time to actually read some Executive Orders, they would find that a great many of them are directions by a President to the Executive branch to carry out the laws passed by Congress.

Congress will pass a law, and that law will contain instructions for the Executive to write the regulations which flesh out the law.


So how about proving Obama is "bypassing Congress" before making fools of yourselves?

"Ah, **** that! I heard one of my favorite piss pourers say it, and I drank it. My masters said it, I believe it, that settles it."

uh....that was already pointed out in the op.....

And yet you said he is "bypassing Congress". I bet the workings of all this didn't even sink into your head until I pointed it out.

Hack.

why didn't Congress make this change if it makes things so much "simpler".....?

I was right. You don't understand how our system works at all. It isn't Congress's job to make that change. It is the Executive's.

oh really....

there are like 5 million outstanding current student loans on the books that will now not be paying in as much because Obama single-handedly decided to cut their ALREADY AGREED UPON debt payments to 10% of their income...

how much money is that.....? that's a huge chunk of change i would imagine...where is the money going to come from to 'pay' for that.....?

since when does the Exec branch get to make such financial decisions...? aren't all spending/financial matters are supposed to originate in the House...?

 

[LilOlLady]

Is this a dictatorship or what.....?

In a bid to give one of the Democrat's vital constituencies a lhand, President Obama will issue an executive order today that will cap student loan repayments at 10% of a borrower's monthly income.
....

The economic reasoning behind the maneuver is questionable, however, Delisle said. The president is making the case that “we need to help [student loan debtors] with debt so they can go into even more debt,” such as taking out a mortgage to buy a home. But student loans already helped these borrowers consume beyond their means, he said.
....

With no discernible economic benefit, there's only one reason to make another end run around Congress to get this done; politics. Young people are a vital cog in the Democratic party coalition so making them happy - and willing to vote in November - trumps common sense and rational public policy.

The student loan debt crisis is so bad that some Democrats are talking about a bailout; debt forgiveness along with payments to lenders. I know it's gauche to point out, but back in the 1980's when expanding federal student loan programs was being discussed, many predicted the scenario that is playing out today. It's small comfort that so many were right, but it also should be a lesson in out of control federal spending

Blog: Obama issues another executive order bypassing Congress

Congress is not doing their job so Obama is doing it for them.

 

[LilOlLady]

Obama to sign executive order capping student loan payments



So Congress already approved legislation giving Obama this authority. I would strongly suggest reading that legislation before hauling out the tired old "bypassing Congress" meme once again.

If the dunces ever took the time to actually read some Executive Orders, they would find that a great many of them are directions by a President to the Executive branch to carry out the laws passed by Congress.

Congress will pass a law, and that law will contain instructions for the Executive to write the regulations which flesh out the law.


So how about proving Obama is "bypassing Congress" before making fools of yourselves?

"Ah, **** that! I heard one of my favorite piss pourers say it, and I drank it. My masters said it, I believe it, that settles it."

uh....that was already pointed out in the op.....

And yet you said he is "bypassing Congress". I bet the workings of all this didn't even sink into your head until I pointed it out.

Hack.

why didn't Congress make this change if it makes things so much "simpler".....?

I was right. You don't understand how our system works at all. It isn't Congress's job to make that change. It is the Executive's.

Make up your minds. It is either Congress or the President. Just make it happen.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Is this a dictatorship or what.....?

In a bid to give one of the Democrat's vital constituencies a lhand, President Obama will issue an executive order today that will cap student loan repayments at 10% of a borrower's monthly income.
....

The economic reasoning behind the maneuver is questionable, however, Delisle said. The president is making the case that “we need to help [student loan debtors] with debt so they can go into even more debt,” such as taking out a mortgage to buy a home. But student loans already helped these borrowers consume beyond their means, he said.
....

With no discernible economic benefit, there's only one reason to make another end run around Congress to get this done; politics. Young people are a vital cog in the Democratic party coalition so making them happy - and willing to vote in November - trumps common sense and rational public policy.

The student loan debt crisis is so bad that some Democrats are talking about a bailout; debt forgiveness along with payments to lenders. I know it's gauche to point out, but back in the 1980's when expanding federal student loan programs was being discussed, many predicted the scenario that is playing out today. It's small comfort that so many were right, but it also should be a lesson in out of control federal spending

Blog: Obama issues another executive order bypassing Congress

Congress is not doing their job so Obama is doing it for them.

bull****.....tell Harry Reid to get his ass off everything the House sends over...

 

[IlarMeilyr]

Obama to sign executive order capping student loan payments

The action is aimed at people who took out loans before October 2007 or stopped borrowing in October 2011. The majority of students with loans already have the option to limit payments to 10 percent of their income because of student loan legislation Obama signed in 2010 and regulations the administration adopted in 2012.

So Congress already approved legislation giving Obama this authority. I would strongly suggest reading that legislation before hauling out the tired old "bypassing Congress" meme once again.

If the dunces ever took the time to actually read some Executive Orders, they would find that a great many of them are directions by a President to the Executive branch to carry out the laws passed by Congress.

Congress will pass a law, and that law will contain instructions for the Executive to write the regulations which flesh out the law.


So how about proving Obama is "bypassing Congress" before making fools of yourselves?

"Ah, **** that! I heard one of my favorite piss pourers say it, and I drank it. My masters said it, I believe it, that settles it."

I don't know if you adhered to your own advice. But if you can wade through the gibberish that we call "legislation," it LOOKS a little bit like what Congress passed came with deadlines.

And now, without Congressional action, the President's new Executive Order looks like (maybe?) it is EXTENDING those deadlines.

In short, if that is correct, then the President is not busy drafting regulations to put the law into effect. He is unilaterally extending the law.

To be candid about it, I did not sweat all the details. But I will be interested to see if what I just skimmed offers a correct read on what the President's alleged "Executive Order" purports to be doing.

 

[Avorysuds]

Build their debt with welfare only to make them pay it back with more welfare... America ended a while back, it's just in the stage of burning down.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Here's from an article in 2010 that answers some questions about the new law...note that the cap of 10% is only for new loans...old loans are at 15% cap...

that's the law....but i guess if you got a pen and a phone you can do whatever you like...especially if it means the government gets to pay for your little campaign trick...

How will the new student loan reform bill affect graduates attempting to pay back their loans?

It will make it easier for future graduates to pay back their student loans. Starting with federal student loans taken out in 2014, future graduates will be able to sign up for an "income-based repayment" plan that will cap their monthly payments at 10 percent of their income. Anyone paying back federal student loans now can sign up for the current IBR program that caps payments below 15 percent of a graduate's income.

Big Changes Coming to Student Loans - US News

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Obama issues another executive order bypassing Congress

Incorrect.

EOs in no way ‘bypass’ Congress, it’s ignorant partisan idiocy to argue otherwise.

EOs have been issued since the first president, they’re consistent with the powers afforded presidents per Article II, and EOs are legal and Constitutional until a Federal court rules otherwise.

Indeed, George W. Bush issued more EOs during his first term than President Obama, yet we never heard a peep from the partisan right about EOs while GWB was in office.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Is this a dictatorship or what.....?

In a bid to give one of the Democrat's vital constituencies a lhand, President Obama will issue an executive order today that will cap student loan repayments at 10% of a borrower's monthly income.
....

The economic reasoning behind the maneuver is questionable, however, Delisle said. The president is making the case that “we need to help [student loan debtors] with debt so they can go into even more debt,” such as taking out a mortgage to buy a home. But student loans already helped these borrowers consume beyond their means, he said.
....

With no discernible economic benefit, there's only one reason to make another end run around Congress to get this done; politics. Young people are a vital cog in the Democratic party coalition so making them happy - and willing to vote in November - trumps common sense and rational public policy.

The student loan debt crisis is so bad that some Democrats are talking about a bailout; debt forgiveness along with payments to lenders. I know it's gauche to point out, but back in the 1980's when expanding federal student loan programs was being discussed, many predicted the scenario that is playing out today. It's small comfort that so many were right, but it also should be a lesson in out of control federal spending

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Congress aint like it used to be,you know they disagreed but still agreed enough to get things that need to be done...done.....i cant blame the guy...must be frustrating to have the worst most divisive Congress in history to work with.....and just think....90% of these jerks will get re-elected and the next President will be in the same boat.....a REAL leader would know how to get these people working together.....but i dont see one on the horizon......

 

[IlarMeilyr]

Obama issues another executive order bypassing Congress

Incorrect.

EOs in no way ‘bypass’ Congress, it’s ignorant partisan idiocy to argue otherwise.

EOs have been issued since the first president, they’re consistent with the powers afforded presidents per Article II, and EOs are legal and Constitutional until a Federal court rules otherwise.

Indeed, George W. Bush issued more EOs during his first term than President Obama, yet we never heard a peep from the partisan right about EOs while GWB was in office.

Wrong. An EO can be perfectly legal Or
an EO can, in theory, be an unconstitutional action intended to bypass Congress.

Just because there are valid EO's doesn't mean that all EOs are valid, Adam_Clayton.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

This Board's host of laughable liberals are so busy reflexively defending Obumbler from any and all attacks against the President's undeniable ineptitude -- that if Obumbler signed an Executive Order declaring that he had suspended the Constitution, the Board's liberals would insist that the EO was not just lawful and valid, but brilliant!