Obama' Iraq Plan is Failing

[Geaux4it]

Obama tucked and ran. So this is what we get

-Geaux
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President Obama’s plan for fighting the Islamic State is predicated on having a credible and effective Iraqi ally on the ground in Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi.

And in recent days, the administration had been optimistic, despite the growing political unrest in Baghdad, about that critical partnership.

But that optimism — along with the administration’s strategy for battling the Islamic State in Iraq — was thrown into severe doubt after protesters stormed Iraq’s parliament on Saturday and a state of emergency was declared in Baghdad. The big question for White House officials is what happens if Abadi — a critical linchpin in the fight against the Islamic State — does not survive the turmoil that has swept over the Iraqi capital.

The chaos in Baghdad comes just after a visit by Vice President Biden that was intended to help calm the political unrest and keep the battle against the Islamic State on track.

As Biden’s plane was approaching Baghdad on Thursday, a senior administration official described the vice president’s visit — which was shrouded in secrecy prior to his arrival — as a “symbol of how much faith we have in Prime Minister Abadi.”

Protests in Baghdad throw administration’s Iraq plan into doubt

 

[JakeStarkey]

Iraq must be its own effective ally. Obama is wrong to follow any Bush policy.

If the Iraqis will not win their own independence and autonomy from terrorists, we can't do it for them.

If the Sunnis and Shi'ites are going to war with each other, let them kill each other will giving some minimal help to the side that is weakest.

 

[Geaux4it]

Iraq must be its own effective ally. Obama is wrong to follow any Bush policy.

If the Iraqis will not win their own independence and autonomy from terrorists, we can't do it for them.

If the Sunnis and Shi'ites are going to war with each other, let them kill each other will giving some minimal help to the side that is weakest.

We will go back now and clean up Obama's gross mishandling of Iraq

-Geaux

 

[tyroneweaver]

We could have stayed.
The Dems use the SOFA to say we couldn't. But here we are going back in, so I guess SOFA wasn't that binding.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The Iraqis gave us the SOFA that Obama wanted to get us back in Iraq.

We need to get out, period.

The American electorate will vote out any president and Congress that send another Army to the ME.

 

[JoeB131]

We will go back now and clean up Obama's gross mishandling of Iraq

Awesome Idea. I think we should take every Neo-Con, Right winger and send THEM over to do it instead of some poor kid who we promised a College scholarship to.

 

[JoeB131]

We could have stayed.
The Dems use the SOFA to say we couldn't. But here we are going back in, so I guess SOFA wasn't that binding.

We could have stayed? Probably not. The one thing all the different groups in Iraq agreed upon is how much they hated us after 20 years of inflicting misery on them.

But even assuming we did, what compelling reason would we have for doing so?

 

[tyroneweaver]

We could have stayed.
The Dems use the SOFA to say we couldn't. But here we are going back in, so I guess SOFA wasn't that binding.

We could have stayed? Probably not. The one thing all the different groups in Iraq agreed upon is how much they hated us after 20 years of inflicting misery on them.

But even assuming we did, what compelling reason would we have for doing so?

It;s always a good idea to use Roundup before the weeds go to seed.

 

[JoeB131]

It;s always a good idea to use Roundup before the weeds go to seed.

Actually, what would be a better idea is not sticking our dicks into a Hornet's nest and then whine about getting stung later.

What would be even better than that is not trying to find a guy who will do our bidding, and then complain later when he turns on us. Saddam, Bin Laden, the Sunni Militias that are now making up ISIS, these are all guys someone at the CIA (Complete Idiocy Agency) said we could work with.

 

[JoeB131]

what would be even better than that.. stop letting the Jews and the Oil Companies dictate what our priorities are.

 

[Bleipriester]

Before you get out, clean up your mess, please.

 

[JoeB131]

Before you get out, clean up your mess, please.

Hey, Abdul, your part of a world has been a mess since Mohammed road out of the desert with his crazy new religion.

 

[Bleipriester]

Before you get out, clean up your mess, please.

Hey, Abdul, your part of a world has been a mess since Mohammed road out of the desert with his crazy new religion.

Didn´t know Mohammed was a German. Thanks for the update

 

[my2¢]

Before sending American troops on nation building missions I say make our president and congress prove they have a clue what they're doing by practicing on Detroit. Then if they nail that, Mexico. Baby steps.

 

[JoeB131]

Didn´t know Mohammed was a German. Thanks for the update

Um, no, Abdul, you see, here's the difference.

After WWII, the Germans, realizing they had truly fucked up, stood up and made their country better. They didn't break down into factionalism between Catholics and Lutherans and have a civil war that lasted ten years. The Japanese did not break down between Shintos and Buddhists.

The Iraqis, on the other hand, immediately fell into fighting between Sunnis, Shi'ites and Kurds, fighting over shit that happened a thousand years ago about how many Imams could dance on the head of a pin. We dumped a shitload more money trying to rebuild Iraq than we ever had to dump into Germany, but to no avail.

Bush fucked up by going into Iraq to start with, to be sure. But the Iraqis themselves squandered the opportunity provided by the deposing of Saddam.

But they aren't half as fucking stupid as the Syrians, who couldn't even get rid of their under-achieving dictator and broke their country up into five factions.

Enjoy being an Iranian Colony, loser!

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Obama' Iraq Plan is Failing"

Wrong.

The Bush Iraq ‘plan’ failed; the president is doing his best to mitigate the damage Bush is solely responsible for.

 

[JakeStarkey]

If ISIS is defeated, we will witness the Mother of All Civil Wars as shi'ites fight shi'ites and sunnis fight sunnis and all fight each other as they try to take over Iraq.

 

[Bleipriester]

After WWII, the Germans, realizing they had truly fucked up, stood up and made their country better. They didn't break down into factionalism between Catholics and Lutherans and have a civil war that lasted ten years. The Japanese did not break down between Shintos and Buddhists.

No and it would be terrible (about 50 - 50) but they completely ran out of back bone and it is still missing.

But they aren't half as fucking stupid as the Syrians, who couldn't even get rid of their under-achieving dictator and broke their country up into five factions.

Look at Iraq. They are storming the parliament. In Syria, they have a working government and don´t want to get rid of Assad. The US wanted that and failed, Achmed.

 

[JoeB131]

Look at Iraq. They are storming the parliament. In Syria, they have a working government and don´t want to get rid of Assad. The US wanted that and failed, Achmed.

I think that taking a side in syria's civil war was stupid. But Assad is an asshole and the world will be a better place when that punk is taking a dirt nap.

We need to go back to the policy of assassinating leaders who piss us off.

 

[numan]

We need to go back to the policy of assassinating leaders who piss us off.

When did American tyrants ever stop that policy?

Ever since WWII, the US government has consistently wrecked any country and any people whose government did not knuckle down to US dictates.
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