Obama inflames race relations again, invokes slavery

[Bfgrn]

What is the point of having another speech about Selma? Can't we just let the nation heal?

That's not the goal.

.

As usual, you claim to know what other people's motivations are. The only motivations you can speak to are your own. As smugly as you think you know what motivates others...you don't.

 

[Mac1958]

What is the point of having another speech about Selma? Can't we just let the nation heal?

That's not the goal.

.

As usual, you claim to know what other people's motivations are. The only motivations you can speak to are your own. As smugly as you think you know what motivates others...you don't.

Tissue?

.

 

[Bfgrn]

I think there should be a poll. I would guess 90% of respondents would say race relations were better Jan. 19, 2009 than they are today.

and I would rightfully and correctly identify those responsible for any deterioration as white supremacist ignoramuses.....

LOL, Obama had nothing to do with it? "Gates" outlandish behavior , then calling his friend, Obama. Obama inserting himself in something that he had no business in; Trayvon Martin...same thing... he could be my son !; "African American Education Dept." Let's help educate the black kids damn the whites and Latinos; Michael Brown... a Ferguson matter.. brings in DOJ to help the Brown family get justice..what about the Wilson family? Sigh. This president and his buddy Holder have done their best to stir rage and hatred without reason.

Without reason?

The Justice Department found that the Ferguson Police Department (FPD) engaged in a pattern or practice of conduct that violates the First, Fourth, and 14th Amendments of the Constitution.

Go into detail please.

Is this the first you heard about it?

Justice Department Finds a Pattern of Civil Rights Violations by the Ferguson Police Department

In the course of its pattern or practice investigation, the Civil Rights Division reviewed more than 35,000 pages of police records; interviewed and met with city, police and court officials, including the FPD’s chief and numerous other officers; conducted hundreds of in-person and telephone interviews, as well as participated in meetings with community members and groups; observed Ferguson Municipal Court sessions, and; analyzed FPD’s data on stops, searches and arrests. It found that the combination of Ferguson’s focus on generating revenue over public safety, along with racial bias, has a profound effect on the FPD’s police and court practices, resulting in conduct that routinely violates the Constitution and federal law. The department also found that these patterns created a lack of trust between the FPD and significant portions of Ferguson’s residents, especially African Americans.

The department found that the FPD has a pattern or practice of:

• Conducting stops without reasonable suspicion and arrests without probable cause in violation of the Fourth Amendment;
  
  
• Interfering with the right to free expression in violation of the First Amendment; and
  
  
• Using unreasonable force in violation of the Fourth Amendment.
  

The department found that Ferguson Municipal Court has a pattern or practice of:

• Focusing on revenue over public safety, leading to court practices that violate the 14th Amendment’s due process and equal protection requirements.
  
  
• Court practices exacerbating the harm of Ferguson’s unconstitutional police practices and imposing particular hardship upon Ferguson’s most vulnerable residents, especially upon those living in or near poverty.Minor offenses can generate crippling debts, result in jail time because of an inability to pay and result in the loss of a driver’s license, employment, or housing.
  

The department found a pattern or practice of racial bias in both the FPD and municipal court:

• The harms of Ferguson’s police and court practices are borne disproportionately by African Americans and that this disproportionate impact is avoidable.
  
  
• Ferguson’s harmful court and police practices are due, at least in part, to intentional discrimination, as demonstrated by direct evidence of racial bias and stereotyping about African Americans by certain Ferguson police and municipal court officials.
  

The findings are laid out in a 100-page report that discusses the evidence and what remedies should be implemented to end the pattern or practice. The findings include two sets of recommendations, 26 in total, that the Justice Department believes are necessary to correct the unconstitutional FPD and Ferguson Municipal Court practices. The recommendations include: changing policing and court practices so that they are based on public safety instead of revenue; improving training and oversight; changing practices to reduce bias, and; ending an overreliance on arrest warrants as a means of collecting fines.

The Justice Department will require that the recommendations and other measures be part of a court-enforceable remedial process that includes involvement from community stakeholders as well as independent oversight. The Justice Department has provided its investigative report to the FPD and in the coming weeks, the Civil Rights Division will seek to work with the City of Ferguson and the Ferguson community to develop and reach an agreement for reform, using the recommendations in the report as the starting point.

 

[Bfgrn]

What is the point of having another speech about Selma? Can't we just let the nation heal?

That's not the goal.

.

As usual, you claim to know what other people's motivations are. The only motivations you can speak to are your own. As smugly as you think you know what motivates others...you don't.

Tissue?

.

Hey Mac, why is it that we never hear anyone from the right outraged by police brutality? Or even willing to ADMIT it exists? What are those people's 'motivations'?

 

[Mac1958]

What is the point of having another speech about Selma? Can't we just let the nation heal?

That's not the goal.

.

As usual, you claim to know what other people's motivations are. The only motivations you can speak to are your own. As smugly as you think you know what motivates others...you don't.

Tissue?

.

Hey Mac, why is it that we never hear anyone from the right outraged by police brutality? Or even willing to ADMIT it exists? What are those people's 'motivations'?

Why don't you ask 'em about those lies?

.

 

[FJO]

Is this something you would see today? Cops going after a black with a dog?

yes of course and with tear gas with tasers and Mace ...hell yeah...with tanks and with snipers at the ready...have you forgotten Ferguson already..

Most police departments have tear gas, tasers, mace and canine units.
They are used as necessary, regardless of skin color.
You are the only person who forgot about Ferguson, but that is all right, there was nothing to remember there that should not be rememberedéforgotten in hundreds of other communities.
You also forgot about the DOJ decision.

 

[chesswarsnow]

Sorry bout that,


1. The lowering of the dignity of The White House hurts all Americans.
2. Everyone suffers when that office of leadership is a * igger* whore.
3. Obama is fundamentally destroying America, while the negroe applauds him as if he is some great gift come down from heaven sent by God.
4. All the while they don't even see the shame and misery that covers them.


Regards,
SirJamesofTexas

 

[Roadrunner]

I think there should be a poll. I would guess 90% of respondents would say race relations were better Jan. 19, 2009 than they are today.

and I would rightfully and correctly identify those responsible for any deterioration as white supremacist ignoramuses.....

LOL, Obama had nothing to do with it? "Gates" outlandish behavior , then calling his friend, Obama. Obama inserting himself in something that he had no business in; Trayvon Martin...same thing... he could be my son !; "African American Education Dept." Let's help educate the black kids damn the whites and Latinos; Michael Brown... a Ferguson matter.. brings in DOJ to help the Brown family get justice..what about the Wilson family? Sigh. This president and his buddy Holder have done their best to stir rage and hatred without reason.

Without reason?

The Justice Department found that the Ferguson Police Department (FPD) engaged in a pattern or practice of conduct that violates the First, Fourth, and 14th Amendments of the Constitution.

Go into detail please.

Is this the first you heard about it?

Justice Department Finds a Pattern of Civil Rights Violations by the Ferguson Police Department

In the course of its pattern or practice investigation, the Civil Rights Division reviewed more than 35,000 pages of police records; interviewed and met with city, police and court officials, including the FPD’s chief and numerous other officers; conducted hundreds of in-person and telephone interviews, as well as participated in meetings with community members and groups; observed Ferguson Municipal Court sessions, and; analyzed FPD’s data on stops, searches and arrests. It found that the combination of Ferguson’s focus on generating revenue over public safety, along with racial bias, has a profound effect on the FPD’s police and court practices, resulting in conduct that routinely violates the Constitution and federal law. The department also found that these patterns created a lack of trust between the FPD and significant portions of Ferguson’s residents, especially African Americans.

The department found that the FPD has a pattern or practice of:

• Conducting stops without reasonable suspicion and arrests without probable cause in violation of the Fourth Amendment;
  
  
• Interfering with the right to free expression in violation of the First Amendment; and
  
  
• Using unreasonable force in violation of the Fourth Amendment.

The department found that Ferguson Municipal Court has a pattern or practice of:

• Focusing on revenue over public safety, leading to court practices that violate the 14th Amendment’s due process and equal protection requirements.
  
  
• Court practices exacerbating the harm of Ferguson’s unconstitutional police practices and imposing particular hardship upon Ferguson’s most vulnerable residents, especially upon those living in or near poverty.Minor offenses can generate crippling debts, result in jail time because of an inability to pay and result in the loss of a driver’s license, employment, or housing.

The department found a pattern or practice of racial bias in both the FPD and municipal court:

• The harms of Ferguson’s police and court practices are borne disproportionately by African Americans and that this disproportionate impact is avoidable.
  
  
• Ferguson’s harmful court and police practices are due, at least in part, to intentional discrimination, as demonstrated by direct evidence of racial bias and stereotyping about African Americans by certain Ferguson police and municipal court officials.

The findings are laid out in a 100-page report that discusses the evidence and what remedies should be implemented to end the pattern or practice. The findings include two sets of recommendations, 26 in total, that the Justice Department believes are necessary to correct the unconstitutional FPD and Ferguson Municipal Court practices. The recommendations include: changing policing and court practices so that they are based on public safety instead of revenue; improving training and oversight; changing practices to reduce bias, and; ending an overreliance on arrest warrants as a means of collecting fines.

The Justice Department will require that the recommendations and other measures be part of a court-enforceable remedial process that includes involvement from community stakeholders as well as independent oversight. The Justice Department has provided its investigative report to the FPD and in the coming weeks, the Civil Rights Division will seek to work with the City of Ferguson and the Ferguson community to develop and reach an agreement for reform, using the recommendations in the report as the starting point.

What kind of police department does a community deserve when only 11% of that community voted in the last local election?

 

[Bfgrn]

What is the point of having another speech about Selma? Can't we just let the nation heal?

That's not the goal.

.

As usual, you claim to know what other people's motivations are. The only motivations you can speak to are your own. As smugly as you think you know what motivates others...you don't.

Tissue?

.

Hey Mac, why is it that we never hear anyone from the right outraged by police brutality? Or even willing to ADMIT it exists? What are those people's 'motivations'?

Why don't you ask 'em about those lies?

.

You have no problem telling us what motivates liberals and Democrats. Suddenly you don't know?

 

[Mac1958]

That's not the goal.

.

As usual, you claim to know what other people's motivations are. The only motivations you can speak to are your own. As smugly as you think you know what motivates others...you don't.

Tissue?

.

Hey Mac, why is it that we never hear anyone from the right outraged by police brutality? Or even willing to ADMIT it exists? What are those people's 'motivations'?

Why don't you ask 'em about those lies?

.

You have no problem telling us what motivates liberals and Democrats. Suddenly you don't know?

Okay, I certainly don't want to disappoint you. Your ongoing rapt attention to my posts is flattering, so I'll be happy to help.

Three factors at play here: The largest factor is the adherence to a partisan ideology that somehow paralyzes partisan ideologues from admitting the obvious. So, rather than just admit that something bad (in this case, traditional white-on-black racism and police brutality) exists, they'll have some ideological motivation to deny, deflect, distort. Ultimately that behavior is counter-productive to their arguments, but somehow partisan ideologues never seem to recognize that.

A smaller factor would be the traditional white-on-black racism that still infects our society.

A third factor would be some combination therein.

There. Again, my appreciation for your curiosity about my opinion, I have definitely learned how valuable that is here.

.

 

[Bfgrn]

I think there should be a poll. I would guess 90% of respondents would say race relations were better Jan. 19, 2009 than they are today.

and I would rightfully and correctly identify those responsible for any deterioration as white supremacist ignoramuses.....

LOL, Obama had nothing to do with it? "Gates" outlandish behavior , then calling his friend, Obama. Obama inserting himself in something that he had no business in; Trayvon Martin...same thing... he could be my son !; "African American Education Dept." Let's help educate the black kids damn the whites and Latinos; Michael Brown... a Ferguson matter.. brings in DOJ to help the Brown family get justice..what about the Wilson family? Sigh. This president and his buddy Holder have done their best to stir rage and hatred without reason.

Without reason?

The Justice Department found that the Ferguson Police Department (FPD) engaged in a pattern or practice of conduct that violates the First, Fourth, and 14th Amendments of the Constitution.

Could it be that the police asked the blacks if they had warrants? (When 70% of those blacks pulled over did have warrants and 70% of the whites did not?)

Justice Department Announces Findings of Two Civil Rights Investigations in Ferguson Missouri OPA Department of Justice

Pattern and Practice Typography

 

[Jackson]

I think there should be a poll. I would guess 90% of respondents would say race relations were better Jan. 19, 2009 than they are today.

and I would rightfully and correctly identify those responsible for any deterioration as white supremacist ignoramuses.....

LOL, Obama had nothing to do with it? "Gates" outlandish behavior , then calling his friend, Obama. Obama inserting himself in something that he had no business in; Trayvon Martin...same thing... he could be my son !; "African American Education Dept." Let's help educate the black kids damn the whites and Latinos; Michael Brown... a Ferguson matter.. brings in DOJ to help the Brown family get justice..what about the Wilson family? Sigh. This president and his buddy Holder have done their best to stir rage and hatred without reason.

Without reason?

The Justice Department found that the Ferguson Police Department (FPD) engaged in a pattern or practice of conduct that violates the First, Fourth, and 14th Amendments of the Constitution.

Go into detail please.

Is this the first you heard about it?

Justice Department Finds a Pattern of Civil Rights Violations by the Ferguson Police Department

In the course of its pattern or practice investigation, the Civil Rights Division reviewed more than 35,000 pages of police records; interviewed and met with city, police and court officials, including the FPD’s chief and numerous other officers; conducted hundreds of in-person and telephone interviews, as well as participated in meetings with community members and groups; observed Ferguson Municipal Court sessions, and; analyzed FPD’s data on stops, searches and arrests. It found that the combination of Ferguson’s focus on generating revenue over public safety, along with racial bias, has a profound effect on the FPD’s police and court practices, resulting in conduct that routinely violates the Constitution and federal law. The department also found that these patterns created a lack of trust between the FPD and significant portions of Ferguson’s residents, especially African Americans.

The department found that the FPD has a pattern or practice of:

• Conducting stops without reasonable suspicion and arrests without probable cause in violation of the Fourth Amendment;
  
  
• Interfering with the right to free expression in violation of the First Amendment; and
  
  
• Using unreasonable force in violation of the Fourth Amendment.

The department found that Ferguson Municipal Court has a pattern or practice of:

• Focusing on revenue over public safety, leading to court practices that violate the 14th Amendment’s due process and equal protection requirements.
  
  
• Court practices exacerbating the harm of Ferguson’s unconstitutional police practices and imposing particular hardship upon Ferguson’s most vulnerable residents, especially upon those living in or near poverty.Minor offenses can generate crippling debts, result in jail time because of an inability to pay and result in the loss of a driver’s license, employment, or housing.

The department found a pattern or practice of racial bias in both the FPD and municipal court:

• The harms of Ferguson’s police and court practices are borne disproportionately by African Americans and that this disproportionate impact is avoidable.
  
  
• Ferguson’s harmful court and police practices are due, at least in part, to intentional discrimination, as demonstrated by direct evidence of racial bias and stereotyping about African Americans by certain Ferguson police and municipal court officials.

The findings are laid out in a 100-page report that discusses the evidence and what remedies should be implemented to end the pattern or practice. The findings include two sets of recommendations, 26 in total, that the Justice Department believes are necessary to correct the unconstitutional FPD and Ferguson Municipal Court practices. The recommendations include: changing policing and court practices so that they are based on public safety instead of revenue; improving training and oversight; changing practices to reduce bias, and; ending an overreliance on arrest warrants as a means of collecting fines.

The Justice Department will require that the recommendations and other measures be part of a court-enforceable remedial process that includes involvement from community stakeholders as well as independent oversight. The Justice Department has provided its investigative report to the FPD and in the coming weeks, the Civil Rights Division will seek to work with the City of Ferguson and the Ferguson community to develop and reach an agreement for reform, using the recommendations in the report as the starting point.

Sorry, but I can see a racist DOJ in this. I am not going to say there aren't some bad cops, but making sweeping changes (and I would like to see the details) such as relying on arrest warrants. What are they supposed to do? If they have an arrest warrant, say, What the hell, and rip it up because your black, "Have a great day?"

I also see in there a probable speed trap in a black neighborhood. Get them for that...but while you're at it get the ones in the general populations , too. They are all for revenue!

I just wish all could be fair. If there are arrest warrant, serve them. If there are stops for going 5 miles or the speed limit, get that cop for no doing his job! For God,s sake just be fair!

 

[Bfgrn]

As usual, you claim to know what other people's motivations are. The only motivations you can speak to are your own. As smugly as you think you know what motivates others...you don't.

Tissue?

.

Hey Mac, why is it that we never hear anyone from the right outraged by police brutality? Or even willing to ADMIT it exists? What are those people's 'motivations'?

Why don't you ask 'em about those lies?

.

You have no problem telling us what motivates liberals and Democrats. Suddenly you don't know?

Okay, I certainly don't want to disappoint you. Your ongoing rapt attention to my posts is flattering, so I'll be happy to help.

Three factors at play here: The largest factor is the adherence to a partisan ideology that somehow paralyzes partisan ideologues from admitting the obvious. So, rather than just admit that something bad (in this case, traditional white-on-black racism and police brutality) exists, they'll have some ideological motivation to deny, deflect, distort. Ultimately that behavior is counter-productive to their arguments, but somehow partisan ideologues never seem to recognize that.

A smaller factor would be the traditional white-on-black racism that still infects our society.

A third factor would be some combination therein.

There. Again, my appreciation for your curiosity about my opinion, I have definitely learned how valuable that is here.

.

Don't flatter yourself. I consider you a bystander. Everything is "partisan" to you, except you own opinions.

 

[Mac1958]

Tissue?

.

Hey Mac, why is it that we never hear anyone from the right outraged by police brutality? Or even willing to ADMIT it exists? What are those people's 'motivations'?

Why don't you ask 'em about those lies?

.

You have no problem telling us what motivates liberals and Democrats. Suddenly you don't know?

Okay, I certainly don't want to disappoint you. Your ongoing rapt attention to my posts is flattering, so I'll be happy to help.

Three factors at play here: The largest factor is the adherence to a partisan ideology that somehow paralyzes partisan ideologues from admitting the obvious. So, rather than just admit that something bad (in this case, traditional white-on-black racism and police brutality) exists, they'll have some ideological motivation to deny, deflect, distort. Ultimately that behavior is counter-productive to their arguments, but somehow partisan ideologues never seem to recognize that.

A smaller factor would be the traditional white-on-black racism that still infects our society.

A third factor would be some combination therein.

There. Again, my appreciation for your curiosity about my opinion, I have definitely learned how valuable that is here.

.

Don't flatter yourself. I consider you a bystander. Everything is "partisan" to you, except you own opinions.

Gee, not even a "thank you"?

Just kidding, I wasn't expecting one.

.

 

[Jackson]

I think there should be a poll. I would guess 90% of respondents would say race relations were better Jan. 19, 2009 than they are today.

and I would rightfully and correctly identify those responsible for any deterioration as white supremacist ignoramuses.....

LOL, Obama had nothing to do with it? "Gates" outlandish behavior , then calling his friend, Obama. Obama inserting himself in something that he had no business in; Trayvon Martin...same thing... he could be my son !; "African American Education Dept." Let's help educate the black kids damn the whites and Latinos; Michael Brown... a Ferguson matter.. brings in DOJ to help the Brown family get justice..what about the Wilson family? Sigh. This president and his buddy Holder have done their best to stir rage and hatred without reason.

Without reason?

The Justice Department found that the Ferguson Police Department (FPD) engaged in a pattern or practice of conduct that violates the First, Fourth, and 14th Amendments of the Constitution.

Could it be that the police asked the blacks if they had warrants? (When 70% of those blacks pulled over did have warrants and 70% of the whites did not?)

Justice Department Announces Findings of Two Civil Rights Investigations in Ferguson Missouri OPA Department of Justice

Pattern and Practice Typography

Easy to make a sign, isn't it? If it's true, the blacks can comply and simply smile at the cop while they waste their time. No collar for them.

 

[BluesLegend]

I found it amusing that Obama accused Ferguson Democrats of being racially biased and blacks of being stupid. After all Democrats own that town and over 60% of its population is black so they could own every elected office if they chose to.

 

[Bfgrn]

and I would rightfully and correctly identify those responsible for any deterioration as white supremacist ignoramuses.....

LOL, Obama had nothing to do with it? "Gates" outlandish behavior , then calling his friend, Obama. Obama inserting himself in something that he had no business in; Trayvon Martin...same thing... he could be my son !; "African American Education Dept." Let's help educate the black kids damn the whites and Latinos; Michael Brown... a Ferguson matter.. brings in DOJ to help the Brown family get justice..what about the Wilson family? Sigh. This president and his buddy Holder have done their best to stir rage and hatred without reason.

Without reason?

The Justice Department found that the Ferguson Police Department (FPD) engaged in a pattern or practice of conduct that violates the First, Fourth, and 14th Amendments of the Constitution.

Go into detail please.

Is this the first you heard about it?

Justice Department Finds a Pattern of Civil Rights Violations by the Ferguson Police Department

In the course of its pattern or practice investigation, the Civil Rights Division reviewed more than 35,000 pages of police records; interviewed and met with city, police and court officials, including the FPD’s chief and numerous other officers; conducted hundreds of in-person and telephone interviews, as well as participated in meetings with community members and groups; observed Ferguson Municipal Court sessions, and; analyzed FPD’s data on stops, searches and arrests. It found that the combination of Ferguson’s focus on generating revenue over public safety, along with racial bias, has a profound effect on the FPD’s police and court practices, resulting in conduct that routinely violates the Constitution and federal law. The department also found that these patterns created a lack of trust between the FPD and significant portions of Ferguson’s residents, especially African Americans.

The department found that the FPD has a pattern or practice of:

• Conducting stops without reasonable suspicion and arrests without probable cause in violation of the Fourth Amendment;
  
  
• Interfering with the right to free expression in violation of the First Amendment; and
  
  
• Using unreasonable force in violation of the Fourth Amendment.

The department found that Ferguson Municipal Court has a pattern or practice of:

• Focusing on revenue over public safety, leading to court practices that violate the 14th Amendment’s due process and equal protection requirements.
  
  
• Court practices exacerbating the harm of Ferguson’s unconstitutional police practices and imposing particular hardship upon Ferguson’s most vulnerable residents, especially upon those living in or near poverty.Minor offenses can generate crippling debts, result in jail time because of an inability to pay and result in the loss of a driver’s license, employment, or housing.

The department found a pattern or practice of racial bias in both the FPD and municipal court:

• The harms of Ferguson’s police and court practices are borne disproportionately by African Americans and that this disproportionate impact is avoidable.
  
  
• Ferguson’s harmful court and police practices are due, at least in part, to intentional discrimination, as demonstrated by direct evidence of racial bias and stereotyping about African Americans by certain Ferguson police and municipal court officials.

The findings are laid out in a 100-page report that discusses the evidence and what remedies should be implemented to end the pattern or practice. The findings include two sets of recommendations, 26 in total, that the Justice Department believes are necessary to correct the unconstitutional FPD and Ferguson Municipal Court practices. The recommendations include: changing policing and court practices so that they are based on public safety instead of revenue; improving training and oversight; changing practices to reduce bias, and; ending an overreliance on arrest warrants as a means of collecting fines.

The Justice Department will require that the recommendations and other measures be part of a court-enforceable remedial process that includes involvement from community stakeholders as well as independent oversight. The Justice Department has provided its investigative report to the FPD and in the coming weeks, the Civil Rights Division will seek to work with the City of Ferguson and the Ferguson community to develop and reach an agreement for reform, using the recommendations in the report as the starting point.

Sorry, but I can see a racist DOJ in this. I am not going to say there aren't some bad cops, but making sweeping changes (and I would like to see the details) such as relying on arrest warrants. What are they supposed to do? If they have an arrest warrant, say, What the hell, and rip it up because your black, "Have a great day?"

I also see in there a probable speed trap in a black neighborhood. Get them for that...but while you're at it get the ones in the general populations , too. They are all for revenue!

I just wish all could be fair. If there are arrest warrant, serve them. If there are stops for going 5 miles or the speed limit, get that cop for no doing his job! For God,s sake just be fair!

"The most sacred of the duties of a government [is] to do equal and impartial justice to all its citizens." --Thomas Jefferson: Note in Destutt de Tracy, "Political Economy," 1816. ME 14:465

Police Practices

This culture within FPD influences officer activities in all areas of policing, beyond just ticketing. Officers expect and demand compliance even when they lack legal authority. They are inclined to interpret the exercise of free-speech rights as unlawful disobedience, innocent movements as physical threats, indications of mental or physical illness as belligerence. Police supervisors and leadership do too little to ensure that officers act in accordance with law and policy, and rarely respond meaningfully to civilian complaints of officer misconduct. The result is a pattern of stops without reasonable suspicion and arrests without probable cause in violation of the Fourth Amendment; infringement on free expression, as well as retaliation for protected expression, in violation of the First Amendment; and excessive force in violation of the Fourth Amendment.

Even relatively routine misconduct by Ferguson police officers can have significant consequences for the people whose rights are violated. For example, in the summer of 2012, a 32-year-old African-American man sat in his car cooling off after playing basketball in a Ferguson public park. An officer pulled up behind the man’s car, blocking him in, and demanded the man’s Social Security number and identification. Without any cause, the officer accused the man of being a pedophile, referring to the presence of children in the park, and ordered the man out of his car for a pat-down, although the officer had no reason to believe the man was armed. The officer also asked to search the man’s car. The man objected, citing his constitutional rights. In response, the officer arrested the man, reportedly at gunpoint, charging him with eight violations of Ferguson’s municipal code. One charge, Making a False Declaration, was for initially providing the short form of his first name (e.g., “Mike” instead of “Michael”), and an address which, although legitimate, was different from the one on his driver’s license. Another charge was for not wearing a seat belt, even though he was seated in a parked car. The officer also charged the man both with having an expired operator’s license, and with having no operator’s license in his possession. The man told us that, because of these charges he lost his job as a contractor with the federal government that he had held for years.


Justice is itself the great standing policy of civil society; and any eminent departure from it, under any circumstances, lies under the suspicion of being no policy at all.
Edmund Burke

 

[Bfgrn]

and I would rightfully and correctly identify those responsible for any deterioration as white supremacist ignoramuses.....

LOL, Obama had nothing to do with it? "Gates" outlandish behavior , then calling his friend, Obama. Obama inserting himself in something that he had no business in; Trayvon Martin...same thing... he could be my son !; "African American Education Dept." Let's help educate the black kids damn the whites and Latinos; Michael Brown... a Ferguson matter.. brings in DOJ to help the Brown family get justice..what about the Wilson family? Sigh. This president and his buddy Holder have done their best to stir rage and hatred without reason.

Without reason?

The Justice Department found that the Ferguson Police Department (FPD) engaged in a pattern or practice of conduct that violates the First, Fourth, and 14th Amendments of the Constitution.

Could it be that the police asked the blacks if they had warrants? (When 70% of those blacks pulled over did have warrants and 70% of the whites did not?)

Justice Department Announces Findings of Two Civil Rights Investigations in Ferguson Missouri OPA Department of Justice

Pattern and Practice Typography

Easy to make a sign, isn't it? If it's true, the blacks can comply and simply smile at the cop while they waste their time. No collar for them.

How enlightening...when confronted with REAL examples of government invasion of civil rights, privacy and Constitutional rights, you right wingers:

A) Dismiss it
B) ALWAYS side with government.

 

[Jackson]

LOL, Obama had nothing to do with it? "Gates" outlandish behavior , then calling his friend, Obama. Obama inserting himself in something that he had no business in; Trayvon Martin...same thing... he could be my son !; "African American Education Dept." Let's help educate the black kids damn the whites and Latinos; Michael Brown... a Ferguson matter.. brings in DOJ to help the Brown family get justice..what about the Wilson family? Sigh. This president and his buddy Holder have done their best to stir rage and hatred without reason.

Without reason?

The Justice Department found that the Ferguson Police Department (FPD) engaged in a pattern or practice of conduct that violates the First, Fourth, and 14th Amendments of the Constitution.

Go into detail please.

Is this the first you heard about it?

Justice Department Finds a Pattern of Civil Rights Violations by the Ferguson Police Department

In the course of its pattern or practice investigation, the Civil Rights Division reviewed more than 35,000 pages of police records; interviewed and met with city, police and court officials, including the FPD’s chief and numerous other officers; conducted hundreds of in-person and telephone interviews, as well as participated in meetings with community members and groups; observed Ferguson Municipal Court sessions, and; analyzed FPD’s data on stops, searches and arrests. It found that the combination of Ferguson’s focus on generating revenue over public safety, along with racial bias, has a profound effect on the FPD’s police and court practices, resulting in conduct that routinely violates the Constitution and federal law. The department also found that these patterns created a lack of trust between the FPD and significant portions of Ferguson’s residents, especially African Americans.

The department found that the FPD has a pattern or practice of:

• Conducting stops without reasonable suspicion and arrests without probable cause in violation of the Fourth Amendment;
  
  
• Interfering with the right to free expression in violation of the First Amendment; and
  
  
• Using unreasonable force in violation of the Fourth Amendment.

The department found that Ferguson Municipal Court has a pattern or practice of:

• Focusing on revenue over public safety, leading to court practices that violate the 14th Amendment’s due process and equal protection requirements.
  
  
• Court practices exacerbating the harm of Ferguson’s unconstitutional police practices and imposing particular hardship upon Ferguson’s most vulnerable residents, especially upon those living in or near poverty.Minor offenses can generate crippling debts, result in jail time because of an inability to pay and result in the loss of a driver’s license, employment, or housing.

The department found a pattern or practice of racial bias in both the FPD and municipal court:

• The harms of Ferguson’s police and court practices are borne disproportionately by African Americans and that this disproportionate impact is avoidable.
  
  
• Ferguson’s harmful court and police practices are due, at least in part, to intentional discrimination, as demonstrated by direct evidence of racial bias and stereotyping about African Americans by certain Ferguson police and municipal court officials.

The findings are laid out in a 100-page report that discusses the evidence and what remedies should be implemented to end the pattern or practice. The findings include two sets of recommendations, 26 in total, that the Justice Department believes are necessary to correct the unconstitutional FPD and Ferguson Municipal Court practices. The recommendations include: changing policing and court practices so that they are based on public safety instead of revenue; improving training and oversight; changing practices to reduce bias, and; ending an overreliance on arrest warrants as a means of collecting fines.

The Justice Department will require that the recommendations and other measures be part of a court-enforceable remedial process that includes involvement from community stakeholders as well as independent oversight. The Justice Department has provided its investigative report to the FPD and in the coming weeks, the Civil Rights Division will seek to work with the City of Ferguson and the Ferguson community to develop and reach an agreement for reform, using the recommendations in the report as the starting point.

Sorry, but I can see a racist DOJ in this. I am not going to say there aren't some bad cops, but making sweeping changes (and I would like to see the details) such as relying on arrest warrants. What are they supposed to do? If they have an arrest warrant, say, What the hell, and rip it up because your black, "Have a great day?"

I also see in there a probable speed trap in a black neighborhood. Get them for that...but while you're at it get the ones in the general populations , too. They are all for revenue!

I just wish all could be fair. If there are arrest warrant, serve them. If there are stops for going 5 miles or the speed limit, get that cop for no doing his job! For God,s sake just be fair!

"The most sacred of the duties of a government [is] to do equal and impartial justice to all its citizens." --Thomas Jefferson: Note in Destutt de Tracy, "Political Economy," 1816. ME 14:465

Police Practices

This culture within FPD influences officer activities in all areas of policing, beyond just ticketing. Officers expect and demand compliance even when they lack legal authority. They are inclined to interpret the exercise of free-speech rights as unlawful disobedience, innocent movements as physical threats, indications of mental or physical illness as belligerence. Police supervisors and leadership do too little to ensure that officers act in accordance with law and policy, and rarely respond meaningfully to civilian complaints of officer misconduct. The result is a pattern of stops without reasonable suspicion and arrests without probable cause in violation of the Fourth Amendment; infringement on free expression, as well as retaliation for protected expression, in violation of the First Amendment; and excessive force in violation of the Fourth Amendment.

Even relatively routine misconduct by Ferguson police officers can have significant consequences for the people whose rights are violated. For example, in the summer of 2012, a 32-year-old African-American man sat in his car cooling off after playing basketball in a Ferguson public park. An officer pulled up behind the man’s car, blocking him in, and demanded the man’s Social Security number and identification. Without any cause, the officer accused the man of being a pedophile, referring to the presence of children in the park, and ordered the man out of his car for a pat-down, although the officer had no reason to believe the man was armed. The officer also asked to search the man’s car. The man objected, citing his constitutional rights. In response, the officer arrested the man, reportedly at gunpoint, charging him with eight violations of Ferguson’s municipal code. One charge, Making a False Declaration, was for initially providing the short form of his first name (e.g., “Mike” instead of “Michael”), and an address which, although legitimate, was different from the one on his driver’s license. Another charge was for not wearing a seat belt, even though he was seated in a parked car. The officer also charged the man both with having an expired operator’s license, and with having no operator’s license in his possession. The man told us that, because of these charges he lost his job as a contractor with the federal government that he had held for years.


Justice is itself the great standing policy of civil society; and any eminent departure from it, under any circumstances, lies under the suspicion of being no policy at all.
Edmund Burke

For that one example, I would have suspended the officer WITHOUT pay for 6 months. Let it get around the Dept and see how many you have to suspend before the change in attitude takes place.

 

[Jackson]

LOL, Obama had nothing to do with it? "Gates" outlandish behavior , then calling his friend, Obama. Obama inserting himself in something that he had no business in; Trayvon Martin...same thing... he could be my son !; "African American Education Dept." Let's help educate the black kids damn the whites and Latinos; Michael Brown... a Ferguson matter.. brings in DOJ to help the Brown family get justice..what about the Wilson family? Sigh. This president and his buddy Holder have done their best to stir rage and hatred without reason.

Without reason?

The Justice Department found that the Ferguson Police Department (FPD) engaged in a pattern or practice of conduct that violates the First, Fourth, and 14th Amendments of the Constitution.

Could it be that the police asked the blacks if they had warrants? (When 70% of those blacks pulled over did have warrants and 70% of the whites did not?)

Justice Department Announces Findings of Two Civil Rights Investigations in Ferguson Missouri OPA Department of Justice

Pattern and Practice Typography

Easy to make a sign, isn't it? If it's true, the blacks can comply and simply smile at the cop while they waste their time. No collar for them.

How enlightening...when confronted with REAL examples of government invasion of civil rights, privacy and Constitutional rights, you right wingers:

A) Dismiss it
B) ALWAYS side with government.

Note my post.