Obama endorses Harris - weirdly in the middle of the night.

[sealybobo]

Okay. All economies have bubbles. The task for politicians is to recognize them and use them to strengthen the economy. They have not been doing that for a long time. When the economy goes up, for example, they should cut spending and reduce the debt. When it goes down, they should spend more to prop it up because they've created room to take on debt. That is and has not been happening.

As I recall, those tax breaks were for all taxpayers, and there's only so much of a break you can give someone who's paying a very small amount to start with. When a tax break literally does not impact anyone else, you can call it a tax cut for the rich.

Then they are people looking for second and third jobs, because the UE rate would be a lot higher if they were people out of work.

The fundamentals of our economy have been weakening as long as our politicians have been willing to continue piling up debt, and we saw the reactions from the usual suspects when DOGE even mentioned reducing spending or streamlining agencies to gain efficiency. There were only a handful of DOGE recommendations Congress went along with implementing because they wanted to keep the gravy train running. Spending cuts are not in the vocabulary of Congress.

And democrats only care about minorities, the elderly and the homeless before an election. What else is new?

You have conveniently forgotten the concept of reciprocity. You've been complaining for a long time that American workers are getting a raw deal but now that the president is taking steps to give them a better one, you're still complaining.

Many have attributed much of the rise in income inequality to the Bush administration's tax policy. In February 2007, President Bush addressed the rise of inequality for the first time, saying "The reason is clear: We have an economy that increasingly rewards education and skills because of that education."

Trump is a bullshit artist. He says these steps are to bring good paying jobs back home. You believe that? Is it working?

A part of me believes all of this might actually benefit blue collar workers some. For example he raided a Hyundai plant in George. That was a good move. I wonder how many illegals work for non union plants in Red states.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/08/trump-warns-foreign-companies-hyundai-immigration-raid-south-korea-00550030

 

[hadit]

Many have attributed much of the rise in income inequality to the Bush administration's tax policy. In February 2007, President Bush addressed the rise of inequality for the first time, saying "The reason is clear: We have an economy that increasingly rewards education and skills because of that education."

That doesn't address that his tax cuts were for all taxpayers.

Trump is a bullshit artist. He says these steps are to bring good paying jobs back home. You believe that? Is it working?

We'll have more good paying jobs, but hundreds of thousands of drones working an assembly line won't be part of them.

A part of me believes all of this might actually benefit blue collar workers some. For example he raided a Hyundai plant in George. Tht was a good move. I wonder how many illegals work for non union plants in Red states.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/08/trump-warns-foreign-companies-hyundai-immigration-raid-south-korea-00550030

It's irrelevant where they work, those jobs need to be for Americans first.

 

[sealybobo]

That doesn't address that his tax cuts were for all taxpayers.

We'll have more good paying jobs, but hundreds of thousands of drones working an assembly line won't be part of them.

It's irrelevant where they work, those jobs need to be for Americans first.

Experts say Bush's tax breaks, like Reagan's and Trump's, overwhelmingly benefited the rich.

If you got a little tax break and those tax breaks widened the gap between the rich and poor PLUS caused inflation, did you really get a tax break? The rich guy did but did you?

 

[hadit]

Experts say Bush's tax breaks, like Reagan's and Trump's, overwhelmingly benefited the rich.

If you got a little tax break and those tax breaks widened the gap between the rich and poor PLUS caused inflation, did you really get a tax break? The rich guy did but did you?

I was happy for the break I got and didn't envy somebody else who was paying more that got a break too.

 

[sealybobo]

I was happy for the break I got and didn't envy somebody else who was paying more that got a break too.

Well then you are stupid. Remember that crash in 2008? It had to happen. The House Of ******* Cards collapsed. Those tax breaks to everyone caused inflation. The value of the dollar was SHIT. So they purposely did the Wall Street Great Recession, half of you dumb sons of bitches lost your homes, and then after that the rich went in and bought your god damn homes. Now you ******* pay rent. And you cry you don't have money to buy a home. You are pathetic. In the end, they made out great with Bushanomics and will do great under Trump too.

I know you know what I'm talking about. The dollar isn't backed by gold. Fiat currency. On some level you know the system is rigged. But you can't get yourself to blame the real perpetrators. The American corporations and CEO's. The Mitt Romney Bain Capitals of the country. They fucked you. Not blacks, illegals, China. AMERICAN business men fucked you ya schmuck. Deep state globalists.

 

[hadit]

Well then you are stupid. Remember that crash in 2008? It had to happen. The House Of ******* Cards collapsed. Those tax breaks to everyone caused inflation. The value of the dollar was SHIT. So they purposely did the Wall Street Great Recession, half of you dumb sons of bitches lost your homes, and then after that the rich went in and bought your god damn homes. Now you ******* pay rent. And you cry you don't have money to buy a home. You are pathetic. In the end, they made out great with Bushanomics and will do great under Trump too.

Okay, first of all, I didn't lose anything. I kept working and kept getting raises. That didn't stop, and I haven't paid rent in decades.

I know you know what I'm talking about. The dollar isn't backed by gold. Fiat currency. On some level you know the system is rigged. But you can't get yourself to blame the real perpetrators. The American corporations and CEO's. The Mitt Romney Bain Capitals of the country. They fucked you. Not blacks, illegals, China. AMERICAN business men fucked you ya schmuck. Deep state globalists.

Yeah, and you want to blame Republicans for that, pretending that democrats didn't have their grubby little mitts elbow deep in the whole thing. You ARE pathetic. They're screwing you over and you think they care about you. Here's a hint, they don't.

 

[sealybobo]

Okay, first of all, I didn't lose anything. I kept working and kept getting raises. That didn't stop, and I haven't paid rent in decades.

Yeah, and you want to blame Republicans for that, pretending that democrats didn't have their grubby little mitts elbow deep in the whole thing. You ARE pathetic. They're screwing you over and you think they care about you. Here's a hint, they don't.

Nixon got us off the gold standard didn't he?

Just like NAFTA, you don't want to give Republicans blame for things they are responsible for.

When I say you I mean the American people. When I say CEO pay went up 1322% since 1978 and YOUR PAY only went up 18%, I don't mean you personally.

I expect Republicans here to be successful people. Why else would you be a greedy conservative? You got yours right? That's more evidence the GOP is the party of the rich. Look at you. During one of worst economies you kept not only working but getting raises. You're an elitist.

How come they didn't screw you over rich boy? So many Americans lost their jobs and homes. But not you. You're a rich boy huh?

 

[hadit]

Nixon got us off the gold standard didn't he?

Just like NAFTA, you don't want to give Republicans blame for things they are responsible for.

I don't see democrats doing anything to change the trajectory of our economy for the better. I see them and their trained seals (yes, that's you) honking and clapping their flippers claiming they want to do this or that, but they only make it worse, and you think they're doing you a favor.

When I say you I mean the American people. When I say CEO pay went up 1322% since 1978 and YOUR PAY only went up 18%, I don't mean you personally.

I expect Republicans here to be successful people. Why else would you be a greedy conservative?

Interesting, so you're admitting that democrats are unsuccessful and envious of those who are successful? Wow, you did not see that one when you stepped in it.

You got yours right? That's more evidence the GOP is the party of the rich. Look at you. During one of worst economies you kept not only working but getting raises. You're an elitist.

How come they didn't screw you over rich boy? So many Americans lost their jobs and homes. But not you. You're a rich boy huh?

Nope, I'm just good at what I do, and I chose a good career path. Yes, I know that makes me an elitist Republican because apparently democrats can't do that, but it's what I did.

 

[sealybobo]

I don't see democrats doing anything to change the trajectory of our economy for the better. I see them and their trained seals (yes, that's you) honking and clapping their flippers claiming they want to do this or that, but they only make it worse, and you think they're doing you a favor.

Interesting, so you're admitting that democrats are unsuccessful and envious of those who are successful? Wow, you did not see that one when you stepped in it.

Nope, I'm just good at what I do, and I chose a good career path. Yes, I know that makes me an elitist Republican because apparently democrats can't do that, but it's what I did.

That's because all you watch is right wing fake ******* news

Yes, unions achieved significant wins in 2023, marking a "Year of Labor" with major strikes and contract negotiations across industries like Hollywood, auto manufacturing, healthcare, and logistics. Key victories included historic wage increases, improved working conditions, and protections against new technologies from employers like the Big Three automakers (UAW), UPS (Teamsters), and the Hollywood studios (WGA and SAG-AFTRA). A record number of strikes and increased public support further contributed to the momentum for organized labor that year.

What did you want Democrats to do? Other than support union workers.

 

[hadit]

That's because all you watch is right wing fake ******* news

Yes, unions achieved significant wins in 2023, marking a "Year of Labor" with major strikes and contract negotiations across industries like Hollywood, auto manufacturing, healthcare, and logistics. Key victories included historic wage increases, improved working conditions, and protections against new technologies from employers like the Big Three automakers (UAW), UPS (Teamsters), and the Hollywood studios (WGA and SAG-AFTRA). A record number of strikes and increased public support further contributed to the momentum for organized labor that year.

What did you want Democrats to do? Other than support union workers.

If tax cuts are bad, they should have raised taxes across the board, make everyone pay a lot more. If relaxing regulations is bad, they should have packed on double, triple the number and raised the cost of doing business sky high. If raising the MW is good, they should have raised it at least to $50/hour and made everyone rich.

Why didn't they do any of these things when they had the power?

 

[sealybobo]

If tax cuts are bad, they should have raised taxes across the board, make everyone pay a lot more. If relaxing regulations is bad, they should have packed on double, triple the number and raised the cost of doing business sky high. If raising the MW is good, they should have raised it at least to $50/hour and made everyone rich.

Why didn't they do any of these things when they had the power?

Dumbest post you've ever written.

Who made the blanket statement that tax cuts are bad?

Raising taxes on EVERYONE might not work for poor people. Rich people would be just fine. And I wouldn't raise taxes on the middle class either. I would give THEM ONLY tax breaks. That would benefit everyone. Rich people who own business' would make out because we go out and spend that money.

Who said relaxing regulations is bad or good? What regulations? Doesn't that matter to you? No it does not because you've been brainwashed to believe regulations are bad and deregulations are good. You don't even need to know the details.

Everything you said is just ******* stupid. Stupid suppositions and questions. So don't expect me to be able to answer your stupid ******* questions.

Make everyone rich? Okay, ******* weirdo. Maybe you should stay out of the politics section. You're too stupid to be here.

 

[hadit]

Dumbest post you've ever written.

Who made the blanket statement that tax cuts are bad?

Raising taxes on EVERYONE might not work for poor people. Rich people would be just fine. And I wouldn't raise taxes on the middle class either. I would give THEM ONLY tax breaks. That would benefit everyone. Rich people who own business' would make out because we go out and spend that money.

Who said relaxing regulations is bad or good? What regulations? Doesn't that matter to you? No it does not because you've been brainwashed to believe regulations are bad and deregulations are good. You don't even need to know the details.

Everything you said is just ******* stupid. Stupid suppositions and questions. So don't expect me to be able to answer your stupid ******* questions.

Make everyone rich? Okay, ******* weirdo. Maybe you should stay out of the politics section. You're too stupid to be here.

I appear to have struck a nerve.