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That is evidence the name Palestine was used before Christ and up until until Rome renamed it, "Syria-Palaestina" after Christ.Sure it was ... it was known as Palaistinê some 2500 years ago...Peoples reactions don't change reality. You could get a violent reaction from a racist if you called them that to their face.Again, I dare you to tell anyone from the above groups this canard about "every Israeli is a Palestinian".
If you read more carefully you'll find I did no such thing.Palestinian, Arab, and Semite are not synonyms, and it is incorrect and borderline illiterate of you to use them as if they are.
True enough. Names change. You could find maps where Virginia was in a British Colony, a Confederation, a Confederacy, and a Union.And still, the timeline remains the same. Whatever people do or don't call that region now, they didn't call it "Palestine" during Jesus' time, and they certainly didn't call everyone in it "Palestinian". For that matter, those terms as you try to use them aren't universally accepted NOW.
Rather my point. George Washington was a Virginian, and it would be quite incorrect to say that he was a Confederate, because Virginia was not part of the Confederacy during his lifetime; the Confederacy itself did not exist during his lifetime.
Likewise, the name "Palestine" applied to that region was not a thing during Jesus' lifetime; in this day and age, "Palestinian" is very specifically NOT meant to include Jews.
Palestine
The whole of the region was referred to as `Canaan’ in Mesopotamian texts and trade records found at Ebla and Mari as early as the 18th century BCE while the term `Palestine’ does not appear in any written records until the 5th century BCE in the Histories of Herodotus. After Herodotus, the term `Palestine’ came to be used for the entire region which was formerly known as Canaan.
That's where the name, 'Syria-Palaestina,' came from when the Romans renamed the region after Christ.
And that region included Nazareth, where Jesus was from, as were many Jews. I'm not saying that means Jesus was Palestinian ... no one will ever know. I'm just saying it's not out of the realm of possibilities.
Palestine | History, People, & Religion
The word Palestine derives from Philistia, the name given by Greek writers to the land of the Philistines, who in the 12th century BCE occupied a small pocket of land on the southern coast, between modern Tel Aviv–Yafo and Gaza. The name was revived by the Romans in the 2nd century CEin “Syria Palaestina,” designating the southern portion of the province of Syria, and made its way thence into Arabic, where it has been used to describe the region at least since the early Islamic era. After Roman times the name had no official status until after World War I and the end of rule by the Ottoman Empire, when it was adopted for one of the regions mandated to Great Britain; in addition to an area roughly comprising present-day Israel and the West Bank, the mandate included the territory east of the Jordan River now constituting the Hashimite Kingdom of Jordan, which Britain placed under an administration separate from that of Palestine immediately after receiving the mandate for the territory.
So yeah, your source is correct when it says, "After Herodotus, the term 'Palestine' came to be used for the entire region", insofar as "several centuries later" qualifies as "after". Not exactly precise, and definitely not the refutation you hoped it was when you cherry-picked it.
LOLOLThere’s no Roman record of the region being called Palestine, Dufus.Sure it was ... it was known as Palaistinê some 2500 years ago...Peoples reactions don't change reality. You could get a violent reaction from a racist if you called them that to their face.Again, I dare you to tell anyone from the above groups this canard about "every Israeli is a Palestinian".
If you read more carefully you'll find I did no such thing.Palestinian, Arab, and Semite are not synonyms, and it is incorrect and borderline illiterate of you to use them as if they are.
True enough. Names change. You could find maps where Virginia was in a British Colony, a Confederation, a Confederacy, and a Union.And still, the timeline remains the same. Whatever people do or don't call that region now, they didn't call it "Palestine" during Jesus' time, and they certainly didn't call everyone in it "Palestinian". For that matter, those terms as you try to use them aren't universally accepted NOW.
Rather my point. George Washington was a Virginian, and it would be quite incorrect to say that he was a Confederate, because Virginia was not part of the Confederacy during his lifetime; the Confederacy itself did not exist during his lifetime.
Likewise, the name "Palestine" applied to that region was not a thing during Jesus' lifetime; in this day and age, "Palestinian" is very specifically NOT meant to include Jews.
Palestine
The whole of the region was referred to as `Canaan’ in Mesopotamian texts and trade records found at Ebla and Mari as early as the 18th century BCE while the term `Palestine’ does not appear in any written records until the 5th century BCE in the Histories of Herodotus. After Herodotus, the term `Palestine’ came to be used for the entire region which was formerly known as Canaan.
That's where the name, 'Syria-Palaestina,' came from when the Romans renamed the region after Christ.
And that region included Nazareth, where Jesus was from, as were many Jews. I'm not saying that means Jesus was Palestinian ... no one will ever know. I'm just saying it's not out of the realm of possibilities.
Lots of blonde haired blue eyed denizens of Judea are there?Born in Bethlehem raised in Nazareth and both those towns are not in Europe but in...
Palestine!
Actually, Jesus was born in Judea. It was a Roman province. Look it up.
Who said he was Muslim??Lots of blonde haired blue eyed denizens of Judea are there?Born in Bethlehem raised in Nazareth and both those towns are not in Europe but in...
Palestine!
Actually, Jesus was born in Judea. It was a Roman province. Look it up.
Another news flash. Jesus was a Jew. Muslims did not exist for another six and a half centuries. I know, I know....strange but true.
One person's "feelz" are relevant to that person, however, if those "feelz" are widespread they are relevant to everyone.You're making the typical leftist mistake of thinking that a person's feelz are, or should be, relevant and important to anyone other than that person.
BS. 50,000 idiots feel like a child rapist should be president. I don't. It's not relevant to everyone.One person's "feelz" are relevant to that person, however, if those "feelz" are widespread they are relevant to everyone.You're making the typical leftist mistake of thinking that a person's feelz are, or should be, relevant and important to anyone other than that person.
I guess you're much more liberal than I am, I would be very concerned if 50,000 idiots feel like a child rapist should be president.BS. 50,000 idiots feel like a child rapist should be president. I don't. It's not relevant to everyone.One person's "feelz" are relevant to that person, however, if those "feelz" are widespread they are relevant to everyone.You're making the typical leftist mistake of thinking that a person's feelz are, or should be, relevant and important to anyone other than that person.
Hilarious picture. Michelle Bachmann is such a kook even Trumpsters couldn’t vote for her.View attachment 257594Hé speaks with an english accentAnd the paintings, and the statues, and the stained glass windows and.....Jesus was a blue eyed blonde AryanBe serious for a minute, if you can.History lesson for NYT editors: Palestinians are Arabs. Arabs didn’t conquer the area until 700 years after Jesus was crucified. Jesus is an ancestor of David, a Jew. Jesus was not an Arab.
They think if they attack Christianity enough they’ll destroy the faith.
NY Times Article: Jesus Was Likely A 'Palestinian,' Not White
Given the time and area of his birth (if he was actually real) it's highly I'll likely he was white, and if he was it would have been odd enough that it would be noted in every account of him.
He was a brown middle eastern Jew.
It is in all the movies
You didn't understand what I said. Just because a lot of people feel one way, does not mean it's relevant to everyone.I guess you're much more liberal than I am, I would be very concerned if 50,000 idiots feel like a child rapist should be president.BS. 50,000 idiots feel like a child rapist should be president. I don't. It's not relevant to everyone.One person's "feelz" are relevant to that person, however, if those "feelz" are widespread they are relevant to everyone.You're making the typical leftist mistake of thinking that a person's feelz are, or should be, relevant and important to anyone other than that person.
No, it is you who don't understand what you said.You didn't understand what I said. Just because a lot of people feel one way, does not mean it's relevant to everyone.
One person's "feelz" are relevant to that person, however, if those "feelz" are widespread they are relevant to everyone.You're making the typical leftist mistake of thinking that a person's feelz are, or should be, relevant and important to anyone other than that person.
BS. 50,000 idiots feel like a child rapist should be president. I don't. It's not relevant to everyone.One person's "feelz" are relevant to that person, however, if those "feelz" are widespread they are relevant to everyone.You're making the typical leftist mistake of thinking that a person's feelz are, or should be, relevant and important to anyone other than that person.
Maybe if you stuck to English you'd be clearer.Feelz aren't particularly relevant to much at all, but the actual meaning of what I said just flew completely over your head.One person's "feelz" are relevant to that person, however, if those "feelz" are widespread they are relevant to everyone.
Your feelz may be all important to YOU, but they don't mean a damned thing to anyone else.
Maybe if you stuck to English you'd be clearer.Feelz aren't particularly relevant to much at all, but the actual meaning of what I said just flew completely over your head.One person's "feelz" are relevant to that person, however, if those "feelz" are widespread they are relevant to everyone.
Your feelz may be all important to YOU, but they don't mean a damned thing to anyone else.
If a large number Muslim people believe (feelz?) the West is making war on Islam and they are duty bound to attack it, that should be relevant to just about everyone.
They are duty bound to defend themselves. Of course defense can and should take many forms. Some may be only short-term or counter-productive, some not.If a large number of non muslims believe that Islam is making war on the rest of the world are they not duty bound to defend themselves and make war against it?
What should they do?
Then why did Jesus speak in Aramaic(semitic language) and not Hebrew?History lesson for NYT editors: Palestinians are Arabs. Arabs didn’t conquer the area until 700 years after Jesus was crucified. Jesus is an ancestor of David, a Jew. Jesus was not an Arab.
They think if they attack Christianity enough they’ll destroy the faith.
NY Times Article: Jesus Was Likely A 'Palestinian,' Not White
What makes you think He didn't speak Hebrew?
Ok, sure.They are duty bound to defend themselves. Of course defense can and should take many forms. Some may be only short-term or counter-productive, some not.If a large number of non muslims believe that Islam is making war on the rest of the world are they not duty bound to defend themselves and make war against it?
What should they do?
Some losers yes, some losers no. The leaders, I have no sympathy for. The poor Palestinians who have been used as pawns by every side, those people I do have sympathy for.Ok, sure.
But lets talk hypothetically.
If several nations more numerous and powerful than Israel no so covertly conspired together to destroy it but instead they got their assess handed to them should someone feel sorry for the losers?
I've always considered Arabs to be children of Ishmael. Palestinians are natives of the land of Canaan and are therefore Canaanite. The patriarchal linage of the Jews is given many times in scripture. Noah -> Shem -> Abraham -> Isaac -> Jacob. The matriarchal linage of the Jews is a bit more obscure, but it is given in Ezekiel 16. Noah -> Ham -> Canaan -> Amorite and Hittite.
