saveliberty
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Wrong, just like most liberals.States and local governments can set vaccine mandates...and it has been affirmed by the Supreme Court.
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Wrong, just like most liberals.States and local governments can set vaccine mandates...and it has been affirmed by the Supreme Court.
When a state government pushes its political agenda on business owners, like Deblasio is trying to do, businesses will fight back in court and win or take their business to a better state. Many businesses have the means to relocate but a major hassle to avoid. Some will just pay the fine while many others will say- I’ll see you in court. These will be the legal cases to bolster private ownership rights and stomp on these authoritarian actions of uninformed governmental officials.This is another case of the government asking private entities to do that which is illegal for the government to do directly. If a business decides that they won't obey deblasio, there is nothing that can be done. Plenty of businesses won't comply. None of it will last past the next election when democrats get buried.
Are you willing to extend that to others who practice unsafe things and increase costs to our health care system? Drug use comes to mind, as does promiscuity. How many frat boys are you willing to charge extra to get their STD's cleared up? How many businessmen on the road drinking to ease their loneliness? How many high school athletes who get hurt playing sports? How many overweight, sedentary people? Or is it just this one thing you want to charge people extra for, because reasons and Orange Man Bad?Fine. COVID vaccine deniers can pay a fine to help offset the increased cost to our Heath system.
Yes. Decriminalize all drugs, legally sell some and use the taxes to pay for rehab and care. Sure I'm all in. Drinkers and smokers already pay a "sin" tax and the money for that can go to healthcare.Are you willing to extend that to others who practice unsafe things and increase costs to our health care system? Drug use comes to mind, as does promiscuity. How many frat boys are you willing to charge extra to get their STD's cleared up? How many businessmen on the road drinking to ease their loneliness? How many high school athletes who get hurt playing sports? How many overweight, sedentary people? Or is it just this one thing you want to charge people extra for, because reasons and Orange Man Bad?
And right there you lost the argument by assuming I haven't gotten vaccinated against COVID.Yes. Decriminalize all drugs, legally sell some and use the taxes to pay for rehab and care. Sure I'm all in. Drinkers and smokers already pay a "sin" tax and the money for that can go to healthcare.
Better yet, have universal healthcare paid for by a sales tax and then everyone pays and everyone benefits. Just get the damn shot. You're fucking it up for the rest of us.
What was the argument? I already won if you're vaccinated...And right there you lost the argument by assuming I haven't gotten vaccinated against COVID.
The argument was finding out where you would draw the line when making the practitioners of unsafe activities pay more to offset the costs they place on the healthcare system and you lose automatically when you make assumptions about me and attempt to insult me using them. It is to chuckle politely. Under your utopian socialist healthcare system, are you going to charge frat boys more to treat their STD's? What about girls coming in for their third abortion in the last 5 years? How much are you going to charge them?What was the argument? I already won if you're vaccinated...
De Blasio knows that the government can't mandate vaccines, as it is a fundamental right to be able to make your own medical decisions. It's as American as apple pie.
So, the dirty Dem instead digs deep and uses a coercive tactic to get private businesses to threaten employees with termination if they have personal reasons for which they wish not to be vaccinated.
'Private enterprise rights are different than for a public entity,' de Blasio said on Friday.
He's a tyrant.
As of March, over 2 million New Yorkers already had COVID (2nd link). There is no reason for them to be vaccinated, as they have better immunity than any of the vaccines can provide (3rd & 4th links).
The party of Science strikes again.
NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio asks ALL private employers to impose vaccine mandates 'immediately' and 'do the maximum you feel you can do'
- Bill de Blasio on Friday told WNYC radio he felt private employers should enforce proof of vaccination among their staff
- The mayor of New York City said 'I urge every employer to go to any form of mandate that you're comfortable with.'
- He praised San Francisco for forcing city workers to be vaccinated, saying that was setting the tone for the future
- On Wednesday he announced mandatory COVID-19 testing for employees of the city's public hospital and health clinic systems beginning in August, or face weekly testing
- Staff will have to get one of the vaccines or face weekly COVID tests after a third of all workers refused to get a shot
- The order will cover Health and Hospitals employees in addition to those who work at the Department of Health and Mental Hygiene's public clinics
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NYC mayor asks ALL private employers for vaccine mandate 'immediately'
The mayor of New York City on Friday said that private employers should enforce COVID vaccination, saying: 'Private enterprise rights are different than for a public entity.'www.dailymail.co.uk
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Over 2 Million New Yorkers Had COVID-19 in March, Antibody Study Suggests
Researchers collected blood samples from over 15,000 people for their study.www.newsweek.com
"Not one of the 1359 previously infected subjects who remained unvaccinated had a SARS-CoV-2 infection over the duration of the study."
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Necessity of COVID-19 vaccination in previously infected individuals
Background The purpose of this study was to evaluate the necessity of COVID-19 vaccination in persons previously infected with SARS-CoV-2. Methods Employees of the Cleveland Clinic Health System working in Ohio on Dec 16, 2020, the day COVID-19 vaccination was started, were included. Any...www.medrxiv.org
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Good news: Mild COVID-19 induces lasting antibody protection | WashU Medicine
People who have had mild illness develop antibody-producing cells that can last lifetimemedicine.wustl.edu
The implications of your post are enormous. No offense intended at you specifically, but what you have implied is the following...I agree with the mandates especially in healthcare settings. The mandates work to my advantage. It eliminates competition and makes finding a job so much easier. I wish more states would do the same. I am employed in healthcare now because that is where they are crying for workers and I am fully vaccinated and I go into COVID rooms on a daily basis.
With so many people competing for jobs the mandates make it easier for those who have a rough time getting hired for jobs easier if they choose to be vaccinated. I for one have been fired 7 different times in my lifetime (learning disabled and labeled slow as a kid) and have a very hard time landing even minimum wage jobs due to bad references and work history, so being fully vaccinated now makes finding those jobs so much easier for me. Being fully vaccinated and doing a job that requires me to be in COVID rooms daily in healthcare pretty much eliminates a lot of the competition for me which for me is a good thing since I would have a hard time getting employed anywhere else.
What was the argument? I already won if you're vaccinated...
Only because it had no animal reservoir... The court will not make this demand again.Supreme Court precedent says different. They ruled that the smallpox vaccine could be mandated.
Or what?De Blasio knows that the government can't mandate vaccines, as it is a fundamental right to be able to make your own medical decisions. It's as American as apple pie.
So, the dirty Dem instead digs deep and uses a coercive tactic to get private businesses to threaten employees with termination if they have personal reasons for which they wish not to be vaccinated.
'Private enterprise rights are different than for a public entity,' de Blasio said on Friday.
He's a tyrant.
As of March, over 2 million New Yorkers already had COVID (2nd link). There is no reason for them to be vaccinated, as they have better immunity than any of the vaccines can provide (3rd & 4th links).
The party of Science strikes again.
NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio asks ALL private employers to impose vaccine mandates 'immediately' and 'do the maximum you feel you can do'
- Bill de Blasio on Friday told WNYC radio he felt private employers should enforce proof of vaccination among their staff
- The mayor of New York City said 'I urge every employer to go to any form of mandate that you're comfortable with.'
- He praised San Francisco for forcing city workers to be vaccinated, saying that was setting the tone for the future
- On Wednesday he announced mandatory COVID-19 testing for employees of the city's public hospital and health clinic systems beginning in August, or face weekly testing
- Staff will have to get one of the vaccines or face weekly COVID tests after a third of all workers refused to get a shot
- The order will cover Health and Hospitals employees in addition to those who work at the Department of Health and Mental Hygiene's public clinics
![]()
NYC mayor asks ALL private employers for vaccine mandate 'immediately'
The mayor of New York City on Friday said that private employers should enforce COVID vaccination, saying: 'Private enterprise rights are different than for a public entity.'www.dailymail.co.uk
![]()
Over 2 Million New Yorkers Had COVID-19 in March, Antibody Study Suggests
Researchers collected blood samples from over 15,000 people for their study.www.newsweek.com
"Not one of the 1359 previously infected subjects who remained unvaccinated had a SARS-CoV-2 infection over the duration of the study."
![]()
Necessity of COVID-19 vaccination in previously infected individuals
Background The purpose of this study was to evaluate the necessity of COVID-19 vaccination in persons previously infected with SARS-CoV-2. Methods Employees of the Cleveland Clinic Health System working in Ohio on Dec 16, 2020, the day COVID-19 vaccination was started, were included. Any...www.medrxiv.org
![]()
Good news: Mild COVID-19 induces lasting antibody protection | WashU Medicine
People who have had mild illness develop antibody-producing cells that can last lifetimemedicine.wustl.edu