NY Wants to Jail Nursing Home Nuns for Not Embracing Gender Delusion, and That’s Not the Worst Part

[jknowgood]

I could not disagree with you any more than I do. Religion is the most anti-common sense ideology on the planet. Reason, Common Sense and Logic do not need Religion to back them up. They existed before Religion and will hopefully exist long after we’ve elimonated Religion from decent society.

The 10 commandments are a good structure for society, you disagree?

 

[Anathema]

The 10 commandments are a good structure for society, you disagree?

I have no use for One through Four and Ten, but the other five have a high degree of quality to them… but I don’t believe you need Religion to make the case for those ideas.

 

[jacksonlamb]

If you’re choosing a candidate to vote for based on Religoon rather than reason, logic, common sense, their biography and ideology I’d suggest you shouldn’t be allowed to vote at all.

I am choosing for empathy, a feeling for which you have no sense or understanding.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Because the Democrat party took God out of it's party and now we have men in girls restrooms. Also liberals are defending illegal pedophiles and fighting to keep them from getting deported. Yes, without God. There is no common sense.

You similar to anathema lack any concept of empathy.

Go away.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Empathy rebukes the "most anti-common sense ideology on the planet."

 

[Anathema]

I am choosing for empathy, a feeling for which you have no sense or understanding.

I know what it is; I just decline to participate in that tomfoolery.

 

[jacksonlamb]

I know what it is; I just decline to participate in that tomfoolery.

You prove my point.

 

[Robert W]

They are dedicates, and have been taking care of the dying for some 125 years.

Their founder was the daughter of Nathaniel Hawthorne.

New York State has decided that the women who have spent 125 years washing, feeding, and sitting with the dying poor need to be taught a lesson in gender ideology — or face jail time. That is not a rhetorical flourish. It is the actual situation facing the Dominican Sisters of Hawthorne, an order of Catholic nuns who run Rosary Hill Home in Hawthorne, New York, a 42-bed facility where terminal cancer patients who cannot afford care go to spend their last days in dignity, free of charge.​

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The state of New York would now like to require these sisters to assign patient rooms by gender identity rather than biological sex, grant access to opposite-sex bathrooms, use preferred pronouns, undergo state-mandated training in gender ideology, and post notices of compliance with the progressive vision of human nature — or risk fines, loss of their license, and up to one year in prison.​

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The order was founded in 1900 by Mother Mary Alphonsa Lathrop — the daughter of Nathaniel Hawthorne — who resolved to give her life to what she called the “cancerous poor.” She wrote that she had set her “whole being to endeavor to bring consolation to the cancerous poor,” and the congregation she built has honored that charge for more than a century, asking nothing from those they serve. No insurance. No government reimbursement. No payment of any kind from patients or families. Just consecrated women caring for the dying as if, in the words of their mission, they were caring for Christ himself.​

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The sisters’ attorney, L. Martin Nussbaum, put it plainly: “This law imposed on the Dominican Hawthorne Sisters is a form of gender ideology virtue signaling, to require these sisters to be trained in an ideology entirely contrary to Catholic belief. Why are we doing this? We don’t even have such patients. It’s the state requiring these holy nuns to bend the knee to an ideology contrary to their faith.”​

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That framing deserves to be taken seriously. The state is not responding to a documented harm. It is not protecting patients who have been mistreated at Rosary Hill. It is compelling ideological conformity from a religious institution that has, by every measurable standard, served the public with extraordinary care and compassion. When government power is used not to correct a wrong but to enforce a worldview, the word for that is coercion.​

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NY Wants to Jail Nursing Home Nuns for Not Embracing Gender Delusion, and That’s Not the Worst Part

New York State has decided that the women who have spent 125 years washing, feeding, and sitting with the dying

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That is a clear (verified) example of Democrats ruling citizens using their rules. The sisters have long and for free helped the dying in their final days. But Democrats created a law ruling charity groups. A damned shame that the Supreme Court can easily overturn.

Nuns who care for dying poor face jail time under NY law

For 125 years, the Hawthorne Dominicans have cared for the dying poor for free. Now they face jail time for following their faith. For 125 years, the Hawthorne Dominicans have cared for the dying poor for free. Now they face jail time for following their faith.

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[BackAgain]

Catholics shouldn't vote Democrat.

Nobody should.

 

[BackAgain]

Many of them will do the right thing voting Dem this fall.

That’s ^ what’s known as a self contradictory claim.

 

[jacksonlamb]

That’s ^ what’s known as a self contradictory claim.

^ You might be a squirrel with an acorn speciality, but you here are sweating like mee maw at bingo night.

 

[Anathema]

You prove my point.

I don’t deny that I have no empathy. It’s a weakness. A dangerous flaw that could be exploited by others to my detriment. So I choose not to engage in that silliness.

 

[jacksonlamb]

That’s ^ what’s known as a self contradictory claim.

^ Blather

 

[jacksonlamb]

I don’t deny that I have no empathy. It’s a weakness. A dangerous flaw that could be exploited by others to my detriment. So I choose not to engage in that silliness.

^So sad.

 

[toobfreak]

The state of New York would now like to require these sisters to assign patient rooms by gender identity rather than biological sex, grant access to opposite-sex bathrooms, use preferred pronouns, undergo state-mandated training in gender ideology, and post notices of compliance with the progressive vision of human nature — or risk fines, loss of their license, and up to one year in prison.

Isn't that an example of the government violating one's right to practice their religion in direct violation of the Bill of Rights? In effect, they are criminalizing being a Catholic. Where is the GOP in this?

Is the state not at all cognizant of the fact that this could cause a loss of service to these dying people?

But there is an upside: if this all goes through, at least now the nuns will know which are the trans-gender patients to put a pillow over the face of when no one is looking.

 

[jacksonlamb]

I don't think practice is protected, but religious belief is. I do think trans can't claim a class protection here that violates the nuns' religious beliefs.

Isn't that an example of the government violating one's right to practice their religion in direct violation of the Bill of Rights? In effect, they are criminalizing being a Catholic. Where is the GOP in this?

Is the state not at all cognizant of the fact that this could cause a loss of service to these dying people?

But there is an upside: if this all goes through, at least now the nuns will know which are the trans-gender patients to put a pillow over the face of when no one is looking.

 

[Anathema]

^So sad.

What’s so sad about putting my own best interests ahead of the interests of others? There’s nobody out there putting my best interests ahead of theirs.

 

[jacksonlamb]

What’s so sad about putting my own best interests ahead of the interests of others? There’s nobody out there putting my best interests ahead of theirs.

Thank you for responding. I mean that sincerely.