Number of actual mass public shootings for 2022.....

[AZrailwhale]

And when the government of Indonesia decides to commit mass murder against innocent men, women and children? What will stop them?

Not even the government, as I understand it there is an active Islamic insurgency in some parts of Indonesia as well as a fairly large piracy problem. I doubt either of the numbers of casualties from those issues are part of the public figures since the government is downplaying them.

 

[2aguy]

You've been lied to -

The Facts
Here’s an important caveat to establish: There is no consistent definition of “mass shooting” or “mass public shooting” across countries, or even among researchers who track them within the United States.

The FBI does not officially define “mass shooting” and does not use the term in Uniform Crime Report records. In the 1980s, the FBI established a definition for “mass murder” as “four or more victims slain, in one event, in one location,” and the offender is not included in the victim count if the shooter committed suicide or was killed in a justifiable homicide, according to a Congressional Research Service report detailing the definitions.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/12/03/obamas-inconsistent-claim-on-the-frequency-of-mass-shootings-in-the-u-s-compared-to-other-countries/

You haven't a clue with your own definitions in the US. You're trying to claim again that the list of mass murders is the list for mass shootings.

If only you took the time to check my original link and checked the references that it used, then I wouldn't have had to copy and paste Reference 10, and you wouldn't have wasted everyone's time with your silly gun threads

Yeah.....you bought into the lies from the anti-gun fanatics, you doofus. When a mass public shooting is reported, everyone understands it to be a lone gunman, or two gunmen, entering a public space to murder random strangers......but anti-gun fanatics lie, and call gang shootings mass public shootings in order to make it seem like they happen all the time.....and they don't.

As Mother Jones shows....a left wing, anti-gun news source........ lone gunman attacks occurred 12 times.........

The anti-gun fanatics need to include every gang banger shooting because you can't stampede uninformed Americans into surrendering their Rights with 12 nuts over the course of a year.....so they lie, and idiots like you fall in line.....

 

[2aguy]

You've been lied to -

The Facts
Here’s an important caveat to establish: There is no consistent definition of “mass shooting” or “mass public shooting” across countries, or even among researchers who track them within the United States.

The FBI does not officially define “mass shooting” and does not use the term in Uniform Crime Report records. In the 1980s, the FBI established a definition for “mass murder” as “four or more victims slain, in one event, in one location,” and the offender is not included in the victim count if the shooter committed suicide or was killed in a justifiable homicide, according to a Congressional Research Service report detailing the definitions.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/12/03/obamas-inconsistent-claim-on-the-frequency-of-mass-shootings-in-the-u-s-compared-to-other-countries/

You haven't a clue with your own definitions in the US. You're trying to claim again that the list of mass murders is the list for mass shootings.

If only you took the time to check my original link and checked the references that it used, then I wouldn't have had to copy and paste Reference 10, and you wouldn't have wasted everyone's time with your silly gun threads

Yeah...the Washington Post is no longer a newspaper, it is a rag of the democrat party and it's policies.....

From Mother Jones, again....since you missed it...perhaps have a young child, one first learning to read, to read it to you, slowly, so you can possibly understand it....


And now....keeping in mind that the FBI is completely captured by the democrat party, as we have recently seen with the Twitter files, their use as goon squads for the democrat party, and their Gestapo tactics against the enemies of the democrat party....

Back when they were at least slightly a real law enforcement agency....

US mass shootings, 1982–2022: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Dating back to at least 2005, the FBI and leading criminologists essentially defined a mass shooting as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed. We adopted that baseline for fatalities when we gathered data in 2012 on three decades worth of cases.
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• Here is a description of the criteria we use:
  
  
  • The perpetrator took the lives of at least four people. A 2008 FBI report identifies an individual as a mass murderer—versus a spree killer or a serial killer—if he kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location. (*In 2013, the US government’s fatality baseline was revised down to three; our database reflects this change beginning from Jan. 2013, as detailed above.)
  • The killings were carried out by a lone shooter. (Except in the case of the Columbine massacre and the Westside Middle School killings, which involved two shooters.)
  • The shootings occurred in a public place. (Except in the case of a party on private property in Crandon, Wisconsin, and another in Seattle, where crowds of strangers had gathered, essentially constituting a public crowd.)
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  • Crimes primarily related to gang activity or armed robbery are not included, nor are mass killings that took place in private homes (often stemming from domestic violence).
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  • Perpetrators who died or were wounded during the attack are not included in the victim tallies.
  • We included a handful of cases also known as “spree killings“—cases in which the killings occurred in more than one location, but still over a short period of time, that otherwise fit the above criteria.
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Our research focused on indiscriminate rampages in public places resulting in four or more victims killed by the attacker.

We exclude shootings stemming from more conventionally motivated crimes such as armed robbery or gang violence. (Or in which the perpetrators have not been identified.)


Other news outlets and researchers have since published larger tallies that include a wide range of gun crimes in which four or more people have been either wounded or killed. While those larger datasets of multiple-victim shootings are useful for studying the broader problem of gun violence, our investigation provides an in-depth look at a distinct phenomenon—from the firearms used and mental health factors to the growing copycat problem. Tracking mass shootings is complex; we believe ours is the most useful approach for studying this specific phenomenon.
US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation


And....doofus.....

Lone gunmen, walking into a public space to murder innocent people is a completely different type of crime from gangs shooting at each other in democrat party controlled cities....

They have different causes, they have different solutions.....

The problem for anti-gun fanatics such as yourself......the gang shootings in left wing, democrat party controlled cities can't be focused on, because they are caused directly by the policies of the democrat party.......and can be avoided by simply not going into the small, multi-block areas in democrat party controlled cities where they are concentrated.......

 

[Captain Caveman]

Yeah...the Washington Post is no longer a newspaper, it is a rag of the democrat party and it's policies.....

From Mother Jones, again....since you missed it...perhaps have a young child, one first learning to read, to read it to you, slowly, so you can possibly understand it....


And now....keeping in mind that the FBI is completely captured by the democrat party, as we have recently seen with the Twitter files, their use as goon squads for the democrat party, and their Gestapo tactics against the enemies of the democrat party....

Back when they were at least slightly a real law enforcement agency....

US mass shootings, 1982–2022: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Dating back to at least 2005, the FBI and leading criminologists essentially defined a mass shooting as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed. We adopted that baseline for fatalities when we gathered data in 2012 on three decades worth of cases.
-------

• Here is a description of the criteria we use:
  
  
  • The perpetrator took the lives of at least four people. A 2008 FBI report identifies an individual as a mass murderer—versus a spree killer or a serial killer—if he kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location. (*In 2013, the US government’s fatality baseline was revised down to three; our database reflects this change beginning from Jan. 2013, as detailed above.)
  • The killings were carried out by a lone shooter. (Except in the case of the Columbine massacre and the Westside Middle School killings, which involved two shooters.)
  • The shootings occurred in a public place. (Except in the case of a party on private property in Crandon, Wisconsin, and another in Seattle, where crowds of strangers had gathered, essentially constituting a public crowd.)
• 
  
  • Crimes primarily related to gang activity or armed robbery are not included, nor are mass killings that took place in private homes (often stemming from domestic violence).
• 
  
  • Perpetrators who died or were wounded during the attack are not included in the victim tallies.
  • We included a handful of cases also known as “spree killings“—cases in which the killings occurred in more than one location, but still over a short period of time, that otherwise fit the above criteria.
  ----------------------

Our research focused on indiscriminate rampages in public places resulting in four or more victims killed by the attacker.

We exclude shootings stemming from more conventionally motivated crimes such as armed robbery or gang violence. (Or in which the perpetrators have not been identified.)


Other news outlets and researchers have since published larger tallies that include a wide range of gun crimes in which four or more people have been either wounded or killed. While those larger datasets of multiple-victim shootings are useful for studying the broader problem of gun violence, our investigation provides an in-depth look at a distinct phenomenon—from the firearms used and mental health factors to the growing copycat problem. Tracking mass shootings is complex; we believe ours is the most useful approach for studying this specific phenomenon.
US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation


And....doofus.....

Lone gunmen, walking into a public space to murder innocent people is a completely different type of crime from gangs shooting at each other in democrat party controlled cities....

They have different causes, they have different solutions.....

The problem for anti-gun fanatics such as yourself......the gang shootings in left wing, democrat party controlled cities can't be focused on, because they are caused directly by the policies of the democrat party.......and can be avoided by simply not going into the small, multi-block areas in democrat party controlled cities where they are concentrated.......

You just continue to copy and paste shite, thinking that volume of shite changes the definition of words.

Instead of going by a database of gun rhetoric of shite, try using your own brain instead. And that is the usually defeatist tactic, attack the source.

Einstein said, "The sky is blue". Hand clap him.

Washington Post, "The sky is blue". The Washington post is no longer a newspaper, it is a rag of the democrat party and it's policies.

 

[Man of Ethics]

And?

Gun suicide is a mental health issue...

The vast majority of suicide attempts without guns do not succeed.

 

[Man of Ethics]

And how did that work out in Europe?

In the 1920s the governments of Europe began to register and confiscate guns, claiming that these actions would make their citizens safer from criminals.

By the mid 1930s, the German socialists and the countries they controlled began the process of murdering the now disarmed civilian populations of those countries.......

15 million innocent men, women and children murdered by their governments.........after they gave up their guns.

In the entire 246 year history of the United States, our gun murder number is around 2,460,000 people murdered by guns....with the vast majority of those murdered actual criminals...engaged in crime and the criminal lifestyle.

The 15 million murdered in Europe, the 25 million murdered in Russia, the 70 million or more murdered in China.....and all the rest murdered by their governments....were innocent human beings.....

The number of deaths under Joseph Stalin's rule cited in Western sources is widely exaggerated. About 3.5 million people were killed by Joseph Stalin's Penal System. I doubt more people were killed by Chairman Mao's Penal System.

 

[Man of Ethics]

And when the government of Indonesia decides to commit mass murder against innocent men, women and children? What will stop them?

They have no such plans.

Recently Indonesia outlawed fornication and attacks on traditional culture.

 

[2aguy]

The vast majority of suicide attempts without guns do not succeed.

How about you finally explain South Korea, Japan and China.......as well as all the western countties that have higher suicide rates than we do? All with more extreme gun control...

How about you explain that to us first

 

[2aguy]

The number of deaths under Joseph Stalin's rule cited in Western sources is widely exaggerated. About 3.5 million people were killed by Joseph Stalin's Penal System. I doubt more people were killed by Chairman Mao's Penal System.

These murders and their numbers are documented

 

[2aguy]

You just continue to copy and paste shite, thinking that volume of shite changes the definition of words.

Instead of going by a database of gun rhetoric of shite, try using your own brain instead. And that is the usually defeatist tactic, attack the source.

Einstein said, "The sky is blue". Hand clap him.

Washington Post, "The sky is blue". The Washington post is no longer a newspaper, it is a rag of the democrat party and it's policies.

No, the Washington post disqualified itself by doing the work of he democrat party....

 

[Captain Caveman]

No, the Washington post disqualified itself by doing the work of he democrat party....

Ok, so you believe the FBI makes the decision on terminology. How do the courts feel about this?

 

[2aguy]

Ok, so you believe the FBI makes the decision on terminology. How do the courts feel about this?

Moron, the FBI defined what they studied....and Mother Jones defined what they also used in their list

 

[Captain Caveman]

Moron, the FBI defined what they studied....and Mother Jones defined what they also used in their list

Moron, the FBI can claim anything, but the planet doesn't follow. So now you love the FBI, the agency that helped the Dems sensor Twitter for the Left's favour, lmfao.

So in your gun nut imaginary world, what do you call it when someone shoots and injuries 3 and kills 2, and someone else shoots and kills 6?

What a pratt.