2023: The truth about mass shootings and the AR-15

[Dagosa]

Fentanyl kills more Americans than non Accident / Non Suicide Firearms Deaths

congratulations, you can count. Legally you need a prescription for Fentanyl….let’s made licensing firearms mandatory too. Glad that you brought that up.

 

[Failzero]

congratulations, you can count. Legally you need a prescription for Fentanyl….let’s made licensing firearms mandatory too. Glad that you brought that up.

I’m in California ( Been there done that ,next ...

 

[Dagosa]

It’s banned to have a Military Grade FA complete M4 ( not a 40-60 year old FA Lower Receiver That is Legally transferable upgraded with Parts ( M4 Upper Receiver )

I’m in California ( Been there done that ,next ...

And…California has one of the lowest rates 1 of firearm mortalityin the country—44th out of 50. 2 Only Hawaii, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Rhode Island, New York, and Connecticut have lower firearm mortality.

So regs work…next

 

[Failzero]

And…California has one of the lowest rates 1 of firearm mortalityin the country—44th out of 50. 2 Only Hawaii, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Rhode Island, New York, and Connecticut have lower firearm mortality.

So regs work…next

An Armed Society is a polite Society

 

[Dagosa]

An Armed Society is a polite Society

I have facts you have lies and platitudes.
Gun violence on average is higher where states have weaker gun laws….same for countries. Next.

 

[2aguy]

I have facts you have lies and platitudes.
Gun violence on average is higher where states have weaker gun laws….same for countries. Next.

Wrong, dumb ass.....gun violence is higher when democrat party judges, prosecutors and politicians keep releasing violent gun criminals, often with no cash bail, and reducing sentences for gun crimes....you idiot....

This is why we have gun crime....

California Democrats hate the gun, not the gunman – Orange County Register

Now that Democrats have supermajorities in the California state Legislature, they’ve rolled into Sacramento with a zest for lowering the state’s prison population and have interpreted St. Augustine’s words of wisdom to mean, “Hate the gun, not the gunman.”

I say this because, once they finally took a break from preaching about the benefits of stricter gun control, the state Senate voted to loosen sentencing guidelines for criminals convicted of gun crimes.

Currently, California law requires anyone who uses a gun while committing a felony to have their sentence increased by 10 years or more in prison — on top of the normal criminal penalty. If enacted, Senate Bill 620 would eliminate that mandate.

The bill, which passed on a 22-14 party-line vote, with support only from Democrats, now heads to the state Assembly for consideration.

Republicans and the National Rifle Association have vowed to campaign against it.

Why have Democrats suddenly developed a soft spot for criminals convicted of gun crimes? The bill’s author, state Sen. Steve Bradford, D-Gardena, says that he was motivated to write the bill after a 17-year-old riding in a car involved in a drive-by shooting was sentenced to 25 years in prison, even though he claims that he wasn’t the one who pulled the trigger.
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Prop. 57, for example, very deceptively and fundamentally changed the definition of what constitutes a “non-violent” offense.


supplying a firearm to a gang member,

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felon obtaining a firearm,

discharging a firearm on school grounds


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Washington state...



So why are Washington Democrats offering up a bill in the state legislature to lower the penalties for drive-by shootings? Well, there’s woke and then there’s just plain stupid. Washington state Democrats are vying to become the best stupid they can be, bless ’em.

Currently, Washington law holds that a drive-by shooter should get an aggravated enhancement if he is arrested and prosecuted—and that’s a big if. Such an enhancement could land a drive-by murderer a life prison sentence.

But under a bill proposed for the upcoming Washington state legislature by white, woke ex-con state Rep. Tarra Simmons and her co-sponsor David Hackney, the reduction in penalties is a move toward “racial equity.” That’s right, drive-by shooting prosecutorial outcomes are racist. Never mind all the black and brown people who are the disproportionate victims of drive-by shootings.

Washington State Democrats Want Decreased Penalties for Drive-By Shooters Because... Aw, You Guessed

 

[2aguy]

I have facts you have lies and platitudes.
Gun violence on average is higher where states have weaker gun laws….same for countries. Next.

And this.....

Chicago.......

Last Monday, hours after three people were shot and three others stabbed in separate incidents following the Chicago Pride Parade, city officials offered glowing reviews of their performance.

Everyone responsible for the shootings and stabbings was in custody, they said.

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ndeed, moments after the shooting, Chicago police arrested three people who allegedly had a gun in a pickup truck similar to one that was seen speeding away from the shooting.

And police arrested a woman for allegedly slashing and stabbing three people near the Belmont Red Line station.


But, CWBChicago has learned, the Cook County State’s Attorney’s Office refused to file any charges against the three people who were in the pickup truck. As of this morning, no one is in custody for the triple shooting.

And the stabbing case?
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Well, CPD issued a press release last Tuesday evening to announce that a woman had been charged with three felony counts of aggravated battery with a deadly weapon.

On Wednesday morning, they issued a correction. She had only been charged with misdemeanors.

Why? Because the Cook County State’s Attorney’s Office rejected felony charges.

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[AZrailwhale]

I’m in California ( Been there done that ,next ...

Plus ammo. Background check and I believe a waiting period for ammo purchases.

 

[Dagosa]

Plus ammo. Background check and I believe a waiting period for ammo purchases.

And one of the lowest gun violence rates in the nation

 

[Failzero]

And one of the lowest gun violence rates in the nation

The Drumbeat for Gavin Newsom begins

 

[Kilroy2]

AR 15 is a semi automatic weapon meaning you are able to shot a single bullet just by squeezing the trigger each time you want to fire. reloading is based on the size of the magazine

standard magazine clips vary between 10 to 30 bullets depending on the magazine. But you can get high capacity magazines that will hold 30 to a 100 bullets.

so in a minute you can shoot 45 to 60 bullets

low recoil as compared to other rifles

 

[AZrailwhale]

AR 15 is a semi automatic weapon meaning you are able to shot a single bullet just by squeezing the trigger each time you want to fire. reloading is based on the size of the magazine

standard magazine clips vary between 10 to 30 bullets depending on the magazine. But you can get high capacity magazines that will hold 30 to a 100 bullets.

so in a minute you can shoot 45 to 60 bullets

low recoil as compared to other rifles

You can do the same thing with a revolver using six round speed loaders.

 

[Dagosa]

AR 15 is a semi automatic weapon meaning you are able to shot a single bullet just by squeezing the trigger each time you want to fire. reloading is based on the size of the magazine

standard magazine clips vary between 10 to 30 bullets depending on the magazine. But you can get high capacity magazines that will hold 30 to a 100 bullets.

so in a minute you can shoot 45 to 60 bullets

low recoil as compared to other rifles

A mass shooter‘s primary choice for a reason.

 

[M14 Shooter]

A mass shooter‘s primary choice for a reason.

Oh look.
Another lie.

 

[Dagosa]

Oh look.
Another lie.

Hi capacity semi autos…..ha ha. You guys brag about defending yourselves from mass attacks of herds of pigs in heat with semi autos.Now you trying to promote what, Mass shooters just love their cap and ball black powder revolvers ? What a joke…you were just fking bragging about 30:rd mags, light recoil in a caliber of one of the cheapest Centerfire rifle cartridges one can buy.

 

[Failzero]

Hi capacity semi autos…..ha ha. You guys brag about defending yourselves from mass attacks of herds of pigs in heat with semi autos.Now you trying to promote what, Mass shooters just love their cap and ball black powder revolvers ? What a joke…you were just fking bragging about 30:rd mags, light recoil in a caliber of one of the cheapest Centerfire rifle cartridges one can buy.

Midsommar Weapon of choice = anything available

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Mass shootings as defined by:
Mass Shootings in 2023 | Gun Violence Archive
Supplemental / detailed information from:
US mass shootings, 1982–2023: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Total mass shootings: 651
Total killed, mass shootings: 706
Average killed per mass shooting: 1.08

% mass shootings with 0 people killed: 43.78
% mass shootings with 3 or fewer killed: 93.54

AR15s:
Total shootings: 6
Total killed: 42
% of total mass shooting incidents: 0.921
% of total killed in mass shootings: 5.94

Summary:
Of the more than 20,000,000 AR15s in the US; 6 were used in mass shootings to kill 42 people

Conclusion:
It is impossible to soundly demonstrate the necessity for, and the efficacy of, a ban on the AR15.
Never mind the constitutionality.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

That set of incidents totals 286 deaths, not 42.

 

[Failzero]

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That set of incidents totals 286 deaths, not 42.

Killed by Fully Automatic Weapons ( Assault Weapons) in those stats ( 0 )

 

[M14 Shooter]

That set of incidents totals 286 deaths, not 42.

Yeah?
Over how many years?