Nuke the filibuster for shutdowns?

[EMH]

Congress having the sole responsibility to spend federal money

assuming the "minority party" is something other than 100% traitors.. which is what we have now.

 

[BlindBoo]

The feckless Neo GOP drove our bus into a ditch and now they want the Democrats to help push our bus out. Without any discussion, compromise or guarantees that the allocated funds will not be rescinded after they are approved.

 

[Edgetho]

#thinblueline #lawenforcement | Kyle Reyes | 111 comments

I TOTALLY agree! WATCH as Sen. John Fetterman calls on Republicans to “nuke”the filibuster... but only in cases of the government shutting down. That means it would no longer would require 60 votes to remain open. REPOST if you agree! #thinblueline #lawenforcement | 111 comments on LinkedIn

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Does this Fetterman proposal make sense to you?

It does to me.

The Markets, which consists of people who vote with their money and not with their mouths or their buttholes (They're bot the same on dimocrap scum) are loving the Shutdown. The 'Total Market' is up more than 2.5% since the Shutdown. Less than 4 weeks. Which is pretty amazing considering the Fed being turdballs.

dimocraps are so stupid, they're playing right into Trump's hand.

 

[EMH]

The feckless Neo GOP drove our bus into a ditch and now they want the Democrats to help push our bus out. Without any discussion, compromise or guarantees that the allocated funds will not be rescinded after they are approved.

^^^^^^^

THIS is the DEM POSITION. IT IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE.

WE'D BETTER HAVE A STRATEGY OTHER THAN "THEY'LL CAVE."

Bust the filibuster or use Martial Law. Any other options?

 

[BackAgain]

No. Nuke shutdowns.

I’m a little confused. Is that “no more of the shutdown?” Or is it no to the suggestion to of using the nuke option?

Congress has a Constitutional duty to pass actual budgets.

One would think. I agree.

Pass budgets and it’s not an issue.

That’s the idea. But it’s not as easy as just saying it’s the way things ought to be.

This is not a right or left issue. Both parties have decided Congress apparently has not actual responsibilities.

The creation of laws to force Congress to do its own damn job would have to come from them. It would be an amusing Catch-22 if it didn’t so clearly highlight the lack of seriousness our elected officials have for the positions we send them to DC to do.

I doubt that you, Zinc, agree with what I am about to suggest, but Mark Levin has already recommended a solution. Not an easy one. But a solution all the same.

It’s time for an Article Five Convention of the States.

To the extent that we collectively believe that we, the People, are the true sovereigns in our republic, maybe it is time to put our collective foot down.

 

[kyzr]

Nuke the filibuster for shutdowns?​

Absolutely not.
When the tables turn, and they always do. The filibuster will be the only tool of restraint that the then minority will have.
Whether they will have the spines to use it is another question.

Thune needs to go nuclear or Trump's agenda is over.
We know the democrats will try to end the filibuster because they tried last term, and Joe Manchin and Sinema stopped them.
Why do we have elections if the stupid senate stops the majority?

 

[kyzr]

I don't like it. It would open up the doors for the Dems to pass all kinds of junk when they control the Senate. I know it says only in cases of shutdown but I ain't buying that.

Nothing will stop th dems if they take control, as it should be, "elections have consequences" unless the senate stops everything, which is not democracy.

 

[NetJedi]

#thinblueline #lawenforcement | Kyle Reyes | 111 comments

I TOTALLY agree! WATCH as Sen. John Fetterman calls on Republicans to “nuke”the filibuster... but only in cases of the government shutting down. That means it would no longer would require 60 votes to remain open. REPOST if you agree! #thinblueline #lawenforcement | 111 comments on LinkedIn

www.linkedin.com

Does this Fetterman proposal make sense to you?
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It does to me.:

Makes perfect sense, simple majority cloture carve out for continuing resolutions related specifically to maintaining current funding levels and end this "shutdown" Kabuki Theater once and for all.

 

[Edgetho]

I don't think the Supreme Court will allow that. Nor should they, the Constitution is very plain about Congress having the sole responsibility to spend federal money.

SCOTUS only has the power the Executive gives it. They're all bluff. They got nothing.

And they know it.

SCOTUS is trying to be less adversarial with Trump, which is a good idea. I believe he might call their bluff if they push him too far.

Unpaid Soldiers? Bad idea. Really Bad Idea.

dimocraps are scum. ALL of them. ESPECIALLY the voters

 

[kyzr]

THIS is the DEM POSITION. IT IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE.
WE'D BETTER HAVE A STRATEGY OTHER THAN "THEY'LL CAVE."
Bust the filibuster or use Martial Law. Any other options?

Nope. If Thune doesn't end the filibuster Trump's agenda is done.
Even if the dems allow a CR, they will not allow the BBB to be implemented.

 

[JWBooth]

Thune needs to go nuclear or Trump's agenda is over.
We know the democrats will try to end the filibuster because they tried last term, and Joe Manchin and Sinema stopped them.
Why do we have elections if the stupid senate stops the majority?

That was the point of the senate from the beginning. Reigning in the popular passions of the moment.

 

[Zincwarrior]

I’m a little confused. Is that “no more of the shutdown?” Or is it no to the suggestion to of using the nuke option?

Sorry, to be clear, they need to do their jobs and pass actual budgets, thus making the issue moot.

One would think. I agree.

That’s the idea. But it’s not as easy as just saying it’s the way things ought to be.

The creation of laws to force Congress to do its own damn job would have to come from them. It would be an amusing Catch-22 if it didn’t so clearly highlight the lack of seriousness our elected officials have for the positions we send them to DC to do.

I doubt that you, Zinc, agree with what I am about to suggest, but Mark Levin has already recommended a solution. Not an easy one. But a solution all the same.

It’s time for an Article Five Convention of the States.

To the extent that we collectively believe that we, the People, are the true sovereigns in our republic, maybe it is time to put our collective foot down.

If the deficits keep expanding, it may come to that, whether we want to or not.

 

[Edgetho]

Makes perfect sense, simple majority cloture carve out for continuing resolutions related specifically to maintaining current funding levels and end this "shutdown" Kabuki Theater once and for all.

I think that is a likely scenario if dimocrap scum keep up their bullshit shutdown.

If it were me (lucky it isn't) I would let them cook in their own juices. dimocrap FILTH can explain to a 100,000 paratroopers and Marines why their Wives and children don't have any money to go shopping with, to feed their kids, to put clothes and shoes on their kids.

I want to be there when Chuckie tells them that

 

[kyzr]

44m people are on the ACA today. QED
Exactly. The ACA made healthcare more expensive, not less expensive.

If it was too expensive 44m people wouldn't be on it.

If millions of people have no health insurance, who pays for their medical expenses? Hint: they have no money
If they qualify.....Medicaid.

Yep. So its better to have ACA

Removing the cap would extend SS from 2034 to 2060.
What does removing the cap do to the benefits received?
If I pay twice as much as I did under the cap, do I receive double the benefit?

Removing the cap gets us 100% of SS instead of 77%.

Means test SS benefits
Meaning that even after I paid in twice as much, I get less than double, less than I received before or even nothing?

You won't pay twice as much. Stop whining.

 

[kyzr]

The feckless Neo GOP drove our bus into a ditch and now they want the Democrats to help push our bus out. Without any discussion, compromise or guarantees that the allocated funds will not be rescinded after they are approved.

Democrats drove the bus into the ditch.
We need to cut every dollar of wasteful spending.
Like these:

The $42 billion internet program that has connected 0 people

The federal BEAD program makes little sense with the rate of private markets providing internet access.

www.washingtonpolicy.org

Clinton Foundation Timeline

We are doggedly investigating and chronicling the Clinton Foundation, Email and Dossier scandals.

www.clintonfoundationtimeline.com

 

[Edgetho]

Nope. If Thune doesn't end the filibuster Trump's agenda is done.
Even if the dems allow a CR, they will not allow the BBB to be implemented.

You couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

dimocrap FILTH will have to cave. We only need, what? Two or three more to cross the aisle? Fetterman did, and there will be more when the pain starts.

They'll blame Trump, of course, they'll cry like the little bitches all dimocrap scum are. But they can't take the heat.

Trump can. How much more unpopular with dimocrap SCUM can he get?? How many votes will it cst him in 2028? Plus, he couldn't give a shit about MidTerms, whcih are still a year away.

You're dead wrong.

The Lace Panty Division of the R Party never wanted the Shutdown anyway. They'd probably cave to dimocrap scum like they do every other time. But not this time. Not with Trump in Office this time. He's a different animal than he was five-9 years ago

 

[EMH]

If the deficits keep expanding, it may come to that

Which is pretty sick considering the whining bitching loser party shutting down the government is bitching for more spending....

 

[Edgetho]

If it was too expensive 44m people wouldn't be on it.

They're getting subsidies through Medicaid. That's what a lot of this is about. The ACA took the place of Medicaid in many States. Not Florida, though.

Who it hurts here is people like my Dental Hygienist, Waiters, Waitresses, Hair Stylists, the Self-Employed contractor, etc.

The ACA was a joke from the beginning. I thought The Bastard Son of Frank Marshall Davis might have it going on but -- The Stuttering Lying ********** of a Miserable Failure was and still is a lying, thieving, piece of ******* shit dimocrap scumbag.

We had a chance to really do something with a bad situation and, like he usually does -- He blew it. pun intended.

The Swiss System is very simple and -- It works. It works very well

 

[Edgetho]

Union representing federal workers calls on lawmakers to pass short-term spending bill​

The president of the country's largest union representing federal workers is calling on lawmakers on Monday to pass a short-term spending bill to end the shutdown.

"It's time to pass a clean continuing resolution and end this shutdown today. No half measures, and no gamesmanship. Put every single federal worker back on the job with full back pay -- today," American Federation of Government Employees National President Everett Kelley said in a statement. The statement was first shared with NBC News.

The American Federation of Government Employees represents over 800,000 federal and Washington, D.C., government workers.

 

[EMH]

Union representing federal workers calls on lawmakers to pass short-term spending bill​

The president of the country's largest union representing federal workers is calling on lawmakers on Monday to pass a short-term spending bill to end the shutdown.

"It's time to pass a clean continuing resolution and end this shutdown today. No half measures, and no gamesmanship. Put every single federal worker back on the job with full back pay -- today," American Federation of Government Employees National President Everett Kelley said in a statement. The statement was first shared with NBC News.

The American Federation of Government Employees represents over 800,000 federal and Washington, D.C., government workers.

They don't matter.

Shutting down the DOJ does matter. Dems will not reopen period, they will just keep it shut and TDS the "news."