NRA school shield program awards 600,000 dollars to schools in 23 states...

[Taz]

School children have a 2nd Amendment right to carry at school. Why doesn’t the NRA support them?

No, actually, they don't. They are considered minors and do not yet have access to all of their Rights. You should really try harder before you post.

"A vote for any democrat is a vote to end the 2nd Amendment!
Gun Registration = Gun confiscation
17.25 million Americans carry guns. Gun murder in U.S. down 49% since 1990s.
17.25 million Americans carry guns. Gun crime in U.S. down 75% since 1990s.
17 .25 million Americans carry guns. Violent crime down 72% since the 1990s."


nonsense. some democrats want to ban all weapons but most don't. I know I don't. I have no problem with you owning pistols and rifles. I would even agree to your owning automatic weapons as long as you were properly trained and licensed. I don't know a lot of people these days but of the few democrats I know almost ALL of them have at least 1 weapon. 1 has just a pistol and another one has a bunch of hunting rifles and goes hunting for deer every few years.

Did you know that in 1936 the germans litigated gun control and confiscation.....but only for NON white aryan germans!.......Would you be more amenable to gun confiscation if a conservative government promised they would ONLY take guns from liberals and progressives?

What part of my information that you listed is nonsense...please, be specific.

Here .... let me start you out...

First... yes...any vote for a democrat is a vote to end the 2nd Amendment...since the democrat party leadership gains more power with each democrat party office holder, and the entire leadership of the democrat party wants to ban and confiscate guns.


Second...

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Hey brah, from what I quote below from your link, nowhere does it mention that more guns are responsible for anything. Maybe you need a new link, one that supports your fartsmoke.

"What is Behind the Crime Decline?
Researchers continue to debate the key factors behind changing crime rates, which is part of a larger discussion about the predictors of crime.3 There is consensus that demographics played some role: The outsized post-World War II baby boom, which produced a large number of people in the high-crime ages of 15 to 20 in the 1960s and 1970s, helped drive crime up in those years.

A review by the National Academy of Sciences of factors driving recent crime trends (Blumstein and Rosenfeld, 2008) cited a decline in rates in the early 1980s as the young boomers got older, then a flare-up by mid-decade in conjunction with a rising street market for crack cocaine, especially in big cities. It noted recruitment of a younger cohort of drug seller with greater willingness to use guns. By the early 1990s, crack markets withered in part because of lessened demand, and the vibrant national economy made it easier for even low-skilled young people to find jobs rather than get involved in crime.

At the same time, a rising number of people ages 30 and older were incarcerated, due in part to stricter laws, which helped restrain violence among this age group. It is less clear, researchers say, that innovative policing strategies and police crackdowns on use of guns by younger adults played a significant role in reducing crime.

Some researchers have proposed additional explanations as to why crime levels plunged so suddenly, including increased access to abortion and lessened exposure to lead. According to one hypothesis, legalization of abortion after the 1973 Supreme Court Roe v. Wade decision resulted in fewer unwanted births, and unwanted children have an increased risk of growing up to become criminals. Another theory links reduced crime to 1970s-era reductions in lead in gasoline; children’s exposure to lead causes brain damage that could be associated with violent behavior. The National Academy of Sciences review said it was unlikely that either played a major role, but researchers continue to explore both factors."

 

[2aguy]

The NRA actually takes school safety seriously, as they do training good people in how to use guns safely and responsibly....

NRA School Shield Program Awards Over $600,000 to Schools in 23 States - The Truth About Guns

Nice of them to donate to solve a problem they’re working hard to worsen

How is that exactly? They work to train police and civilians in how to use a gun to save lives, they fight the democrats to keep known, violent gun offenders in jail, and they want to end democrat gun free zones, the gun free zones that are getting innocent people killed...

So far, the only ones getting people killed with guns are democrats who keep letting known, violent, repeat gun offenders out on bail and out of jail over and over again....

You really should think before you post.

They should start a “thoughts and prayers” program. Everytime a gun is easily obtained by a criminal and is used in a mass shooting, people can donate to the “thoughts and prayers fund” and whichever staff opens the donation will spend 10 minutes not doing anything.

How about we just take people like you, who vote for democrats, and make you pay a fee for every criminal that a democrat policy lets out of jail...you know, known, violent gun offenders protected and released by you and your politicians in the democrat party...since they are the ones getting guns illegally, and shooting people...it is democrats like yourself driving gun crime in democrat controlled cities....

This is on your party, not the NRA...

Analysis | The surprising way gun violence is dividing America

In the most Democratic regions, gun violence is more often committed against another, crimes that probably generate more news coverage and fear. In the most Republican areas, it is more often committed against oneself, suicides that may not attract as much attention.

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As the below charts show, Democratic areas (measured by the party that controls the congressional district) are far more likely to experience almost all forms of malicious gun violence than Republican areas.


Then you have democrats letting violent criminals out of jail....notice it is the NRA and republicans trying to keep these criminals in prison, while the democrats are letting them out....look in the mirror, you are the problem.

California Democrats hate the gun, not the gunman – Orange County Register

Now that Democrats have supermajorities in the California state Legislature, they’ve rolled into Sacramento with a zest for lowering the state’s prison population and have interpreted St. Augustine’s words of wisdom to mean, “Hate the gun, not the gunman.”

I say this because, once they finally took a break from preaching about the benefits of stricter gun control, the state Senate voted to loosen sentencing guidelines for criminals convicted of gun crimes.

Currently, California law requires anyone who uses a gun while committing a felony to have their sentence increased by 10 years or more in prison — on top of the normal criminal penalty. If enacted, Senate Bill 620 would eliminate that mandate.

The bill, which passed on a 22-14 party-line vote, with support only from Democrats, now heads to the state Assembly for consideration.

Republicans and the National Rifle Association have vowed to campaign against it.

Why have Democrats suddenly developed a soft spot for criminals convicted of gun crimes? The bill’s author, state Sen. Steve Bradford, D-Gardena, says that he was motivated to write the bill after a 17-year-old riding in a car involved in a drive-by shooting was sentenced to 25 years in prison, even though he claims that he wasn’t the one who pulled the trigger.

and for all those anti-gunners who want to know where criminals get guns....well...this law lowers the prison time for those who give guns to criminals.....

Why is that?

Prop. 57, for example, very deceptively and fundamentally changed the definition of what constitutes a “non-violent” offense.


supplying a firearm to a gang member,

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felon obtaining a firearm,

discharging a firearm on school grounds

 

[2aguy]

This is no different than the Mob giving money to the widow of a made man they put the hit on.

Except you are a moron......the NRA does not support criminals, and does not support criminals getting out of prison, that would be the democrat party. NRA members are not making democrat cities into crap holes...that would be democrat politicians allowing criminals to shoot each other in their cities...

Call out the democrats....then you will actually post with more intelligence.

 

[2aguy]

School children have a 2nd Amendment right to carry at school. Why doesn’t the NRA support them?

No, actually, they don't. They are considered minors and do not yet have access to all of their Rights. You should really try harder before you post.

"A vote for any democrat is a vote to end the 2nd Amendment!
Gun Registration = Gun confiscation
17.25 million Americans carry guns. Gun murder in U.S. down 49% since 1990s.
17.25 million Americans carry guns. Gun crime in U.S. down 75% since 1990s.
17 .25 million Americans carry guns. Violent crime down 72% since the 1990s."


nonsense. some democrats want to ban all weapons but most don't. I know I don't. I have no problem with you owning pistols and rifles. I would even agree to your owning automatic weapons as long as you were properly trained and licensed. I don't know a lot of people these days but of the few democrats I know almost ALL of them have at least 1 weapon. 1 has just a pistol and another one has a bunch of hunting rifles and goes hunting for deer every few years.

Did you know that in 1936 the germans litigated gun control and confiscation.....but only for NON white aryan germans!.......Would you be more amenable to gun confiscation if a conservative government promised they would ONLY take guns from liberals and progressives?

What part of my information that you listed is nonsense...please, be specific.

Here .... let me start you out...

First... yes...any vote for a democrat is a vote to end the 2nd Amendment...since the democrat party leadership gains more power with each democrat party office holder, and the entire leadership of the democrat party wants to ban and confiscate guns.


Second...

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware


Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Hey brah, from what I quote below from your link, nowhere does it mention that more guns are responsible for anything. Maybe you need a new link, one that supports your fartsmoke.

"What is Behind the Crime Decline?
Researchers continue to debate the key factors behind changing crime rates, which is part of a larger discussion about the predictors of crime.3 There is consensus that demographics played some role: The outsized post-World War II baby boom, which produced a large number of people in the high-crime ages of 15 to 20 in the 1960s and 1970s, helped drive crime up in those years.

A review by the National Academy of Sciences of factors driving recent crime trends (Blumstein and Rosenfeld, 2008) cited a decline in rates in the early 1980s as the young boomers got older, then a flare-up by mid-decade in conjunction with a rising street market for crack cocaine, especially in big cities. It noted recruitment of a younger cohort of drug seller with greater willingness to use guns. By the early 1990s, crack markets withered in part because of lessened demand, and the vibrant national economy made it easier for even low-skilled young people to find jobs rather than get involved in crime.

At the same time, a rising number of people ages 30 and older were incarcerated, due in part to stricter laws, which helped restrain violence among this age group. It is less clear, researchers say, that innovative policing strategies and police crackdowns on use of guns by younger adults played a significant role in reducing crime.

Some researchers have proposed additional explanations as to why crime levels plunged so suddenly, including increased access to abortion and lessened exposure to lead. According to one hypothesis, legalization of abortion after the 1973 Supreme Court Roe v. Wade decision resulted in fewer unwanted births, and unwanted children have an increased risk of growing up to become criminals. Another theory links reduced crime to 1970s-era reductions in lead in gasoline; children’s exposure to lead causes brain damage that could be associated with violent behavior. The National Academy of Sciences review said it was unlikely that either played a major role, but researchers continue to explore both factors."

Hey Brah..... you don't understand the issue.......

Your core argument, the only thing you guys claim will happen is that if more people have more guns we will have more gun crime......that is what you state, that is the primary tenet of your belief system with guns....

The actual facts from what I posted show you are wrong......as more Americans own and carry guns they did not increase the crime rate....so your entire belief system is wrong....


I have asked you to explain how it is that as more Americans own and carry gun the crime rates go down, yet you won't do that, because you can't....you simply hate guns and will not try to understand the truth, the facts or the reality.

 

[2aguy]

School children have a 2nd Amendment right to carry at school. Why doesn’t the NRA support them?

No, actually, they don't. They are considered minors and do not yet have access to all of their Rights. You should really try harder before you post.

"A vote for any democrat is a vote to end the 2nd Amendment!
Gun Registration = Gun confiscation
17.25 million Americans carry guns. Gun murder in U.S. down 49% since 1990s.
17.25 million Americans carry guns. Gun crime in U.S. down 75% since 1990s.
17 .25 million Americans carry guns. Violent crime down 72% since the 1990s."


nonsense. some democrats want to ban all weapons but most don't. I know I don't. I have no problem with you owning pistols and rifles. I would even agree to your owning automatic weapons as long as you were properly trained and licensed. I don't know a lot of people these days but of the few democrats I know almost ALL of them have at least 1 weapon. 1 has just a pistol and another one has a bunch of hunting rifles and goes hunting for deer every few years.

Did you know that in 1936 the germans litigated gun control and confiscation.....but only for NON white aryan germans!.......Would you be more amenable to gun confiscation if a conservative government promised they would ONLY take guns from liberals and progressives?

And you are wrong....the CNN Town Hall, stocked with left wing democrats shouted that they wanted to ban all semi automatic rifles, pistols and shotguns....and that would include revolvers......the entire leadership of the democrat party is pushing gun bans and confiscation as are many towns and cities controlled by democrats. It doesn't matter what you think if your democrat leaders pass gun ban laws.....

The whole point to stopping gun bans and confiscations has to do with human history and human nature, and only democrats have historically banned Black Slaves from owning guns.

I don't support any ban or confiscation for any group, and as you seem to be new and you don't know much about my threads, I support every community in this country in owning and carrying guns.......the socialists in Germany the international socialists in the rest of the world....with close 200 million murdered men, women and children under their belt.....are the exact reason I support the 2nd Amendment for every citizen who isn't a violent criminal or dangerously mentally ill...

But you accept limits on the 2nd Amendment. Like not allowing kids or felons to carry. So stop being a hypocrite, you just don't want anyone infringing on the 2nd more than you do.

You won't explain how it is that as more Americans own and carry guns our crime rates still went down.....dramatically, 49% for gun murder, 75% for gun crime and 72% for all violent crime....so you have to hide behind stupid posts like that one...

Care to answer the question, or will you hide behind silly posts?

 

[Taz]

School children have a 2nd Amendment right to carry at school. Why doesn’t the NRA support them?

No, actually, they don't. They are considered minors and do not yet have access to all of their Rights. You should really try harder before you post.

"A vote for any democrat is a vote to end the 2nd Amendment!
Gun Registration = Gun confiscation
17.25 million Americans carry guns. Gun murder in U.S. down 49% since 1990s.
17.25 million Americans carry guns. Gun crime in U.S. down 75% since 1990s.
17 .25 million Americans carry guns. Violent crime down 72% since the 1990s."


nonsense. some democrats want to ban all weapons but most don't. I know I don't. I have no problem with you owning pistols and rifles. I would even agree to your owning automatic weapons as long as you were properly trained and licensed. I don't know a lot of people these days but of the few democrats I know almost ALL of them have at least 1 weapon. 1 has just a pistol and another one has a bunch of hunting rifles and goes hunting for deer every few years.

Did you know that in 1936 the germans litigated gun control and confiscation.....but only for NON white aryan germans!.......Would you be more amenable to gun confiscation if a conservative government promised they would ONLY take guns from liberals and progressives?

What part of my information that you listed is nonsense...please, be specific.

Here .... let me start you out...

First... yes...any vote for a democrat is a vote to end the 2nd Amendment...since the democrat party leadership gains more power with each democrat party office holder, and the entire leadership of the democrat party wants to ban and confiscate guns.


Second...

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware


Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Hey brah, from what I quote below from your link, nowhere does it mention that more guns are responsible for anything. Maybe you need a new link, one that supports your fartsmoke.

"What is Behind the Crime Decline?
Researchers continue to debate the key factors behind changing crime rates, which is part of a larger discussion about the predictors of crime.3 There is consensus that demographics played some role: The outsized post-World War II baby boom, which produced a large number of people in the high-crime ages of 15 to 20 in the 1960s and 1970s, helped drive crime up in those years.

A review by the National Academy of Sciences of factors driving recent crime trends (Blumstein and Rosenfeld, 2008) cited a decline in rates in the early 1980s as the young boomers got older, then a flare-up by mid-decade in conjunction with a rising street market for crack cocaine, especially in big cities. It noted recruitment of a younger cohort of drug seller with greater willingness to use guns. By the early 1990s, crack markets withered in part because of lessened demand, and the vibrant national economy made it easier for even low-skilled young people to find jobs rather than get involved in crime.

At the same time, a rising number of people ages 30 and older were incarcerated, due in part to stricter laws, which helped restrain violence among this age group. It is less clear, researchers say, that innovative policing strategies and police crackdowns on use of guns by younger adults played a significant role in reducing crime.

Some researchers have proposed additional explanations as to why crime levels plunged so suddenly, including increased access to abortion and lessened exposure to lead. According to one hypothesis, legalization of abortion after the 1973 Supreme Court Roe v. Wade decision resulted in fewer unwanted births, and unwanted children have an increased risk of growing up to become criminals. Another theory links reduced crime to 1970s-era reductions in lead in gasoline; children’s exposure to lead causes brain damage that could be associated with violent behavior. The National Academy of Sciences review said it was unlikely that either played a major role, but researchers continue to explore both factors."

Hey Brah..... you don't understand the issue.......

Your core argument, the only thing you guys claim will happen is that if more people have more guns we will have more gun crime......that is what you state, that is the primary tenet of your belief system with guns....

The actual facts from what I posted show you are wrong......as more Americans own and carry guns they did not increase the crime rate....so your entire belief system is wrong....


I have asked you to explain how it is that as more Americans own and carry gun the crime rates go down, yet you won't do that, because you can't....you simply hate guns and will not try to understand the truth, the facts or the reality.

Your link doesn't back up what you say, making it fartsmoke.

 

[Taz]

School children have a 2nd Amendment right to carry at school. Why doesn’t the NRA support them?

No, actually, they don't. They are considered minors and do not yet have access to all of their Rights. You should really try harder before you post.

"A vote for any democrat is a vote to end the 2nd Amendment!
Gun Registration = Gun confiscation
17.25 million Americans carry guns. Gun murder in U.S. down 49% since 1990s.
17.25 million Americans carry guns. Gun crime in U.S. down 75% since 1990s.
17 .25 million Americans carry guns. Violent crime down 72% since the 1990s."


nonsense. some democrats want to ban all weapons but most don't. I know I don't. I have no problem with you owning pistols and rifles. I would even agree to your owning automatic weapons as long as you were properly trained and licensed. I don't know a lot of people these days but of the few democrats I know almost ALL of them have at least 1 weapon. 1 has just a pistol and another one has a bunch of hunting rifles and goes hunting for deer every few years.

Did you know that in 1936 the germans litigated gun control and confiscation.....but only for NON white aryan germans!.......Would you be more amenable to gun confiscation if a conservative government promised they would ONLY take guns from liberals and progressives?

And you are wrong....the CNN Town Hall, stocked with left wing democrats shouted that they wanted to ban all semi automatic rifles, pistols and shotguns....and that would include revolvers......the entire leadership of the democrat party is pushing gun bans and confiscation as are many towns and cities controlled by democrats. It doesn't matter what you think if your democrat leaders pass gun ban laws.....

The whole point to stopping gun bans and confiscations has to do with human history and human nature, and only democrats have historically banned Black Slaves from owning guns.

I don't support any ban or confiscation for any group, and as you seem to be new and you don't know much about my threads, I support every community in this country in owning and carrying guns.......the socialists in Germany the international socialists in the rest of the world....with close 200 million murdered men, women and children under their belt.....are the exact reason I support the 2nd Amendment for every citizen who isn't a violent criminal or dangerously mentally ill...

But you accept limits on the 2nd Amendment. Like not allowing kids or felons to carry. So stop being a hypocrite, you just don't want anyone infringing on the 2nd more than you do.

You won't explain how it is that as more Americans own and carry guns our crime rates still went down.....dramatically, 49% for gun murder, 75% for gun crime and 72% for all violent crime....so you have to hide behind stupid posts like that one...

Care to answer the question, or will you hide behind silly posts?

Your link didn't back that up, when you come up with a link that backs up what you say...

 

[2aguy]

No, actually, they don't. They are considered minors and do not yet have access to all of their Rights. You should really try harder before you post.

"A vote for any democrat is a vote to end the 2nd Amendment!
Gun Registration = Gun confiscation
17.25 million Americans carry guns. Gun murder in U.S. down 49% since 1990s.
17.25 million Americans carry guns. Gun crime in U.S. down 75% since 1990s.
17 .25 million Americans carry guns. Violent crime down 72% since the 1990s."


nonsense. some democrats want to ban all weapons but most don't. I know I don't. I have no problem with you owning pistols and rifles. I would even agree to your owning automatic weapons as long as you were properly trained and licensed. I don't know a lot of people these days but of the few democrats I know almost ALL of them have at least 1 weapon. 1 has just a pistol and another one has a bunch of hunting rifles and goes hunting for deer every few years.

Did you know that in 1936 the germans litigated gun control and confiscation.....but only for NON white aryan germans!.......Would you be more amenable to gun confiscation if a conservative government promised they would ONLY take guns from liberals and progressives?

What part of my information that you listed is nonsense...please, be specific.

Here .... let me start you out...

First... yes...any vote for a democrat is a vote to end the 2nd Amendment...since the democrat party leadership gains more power with each democrat party office holder, and the entire leadership of the democrat party wants to ban and confiscate guns.


Second...

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware


Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Hey brah, from what I quote below from your link, nowhere does it mention that more guns are responsible for anything. Maybe you need a new link, one that supports your fartsmoke.

"What is Behind the Crime Decline?
Researchers continue to debate the key factors behind changing crime rates, which is part of a larger discussion about the predictors of crime.3 There is consensus that demographics played some role: The outsized post-World War II baby boom, which produced a large number of people in the high-crime ages of 15 to 20 in the 1960s and 1970s, helped drive crime up in those years.

A review by the National Academy of Sciences of factors driving recent crime trends (Blumstein and Rosenfeld, 2008) cited a decline in rates in the early 1980s as the young boomers got older, then a flare-up by mid-decade in conjunction with a rising street market for crack cocaine, especially in big cities. It noted recruitment of a younger cohort of drug seller with greater willingness to use guns. By the early 1990s, crack markets withered in part because of lessened demand, and the vibrant national economy made it easier for even low-skilled young people to find jobs rather than get involved in crime.

At the same time, a rising number of people ages 30 and older were incarcerated, due in part to stricter laws, which helped restrain violence among this age group. It is less clear, researchers say, that innovative policing strategies and police crackdowns on use of guns by younger adults played a significant role in reducing crime.

Some researchers have proposed additional explanations as to why crime levels plunged so suddenly, including increased access to abortion and lessened exposure to lead. According to one hypothesis, legalization of abortion after the 1973 Supreme Court Roe v. Wade decision resulted in fewer unwanted births, and unwanted children have an increased risk of growing up to become criminals. Another theory links reduced crime to 1970s-era reductions in lead in gasoline; children’s exposure to lead causes brain damage that could be associated with violent behavior. The National Academy of Sciences review said it was unlikely that either played a major role, but researchers continue to explore both factors."

Hey Brah..... you don't understand the issue.......

Your core argument, the only thing you guys claim will happen is that if more people have more guns we will have more gun crime......that is what you state, that is the primary tenet of your belief system with guns....

The actual facts from what I posted show you are wrong......as more Americans own and carry guns they did not increase the crime rate....so your entire belief system is wrong....


I have asked you to explain how it is that as more Americans own and carry gun the crime rates go down, yet you won't do that, because you can't....you simply hate guns and will not try to understand the truth, the facts or the reality.

Your link doesn't back up what you say, making it fartsmoke.

My link shows exactly what I say...... You can't deny, you can't refute it, so now you are acting like a child.....

As more Americans own and carry guns, our gun crime rates have gone down.....you say that is not possible. You say more guns = more gun crime....25 years of experience with more Americans buying, owning and carrying guns and the gun murder rate going down 49%, the gun crime rate going down 75%, and the violent crime rate going down 72%, shows you are wrong, what you believe about guns is wrong and that the truth, the facts and the reality are not on your side of the argument...

You can't make the case that more guns = more gun crime.....and Britain's experience just backs up the idea that banning and confiscating guns will actually increase gun crime since that is what is happening there, they banned and confiscated guns and their gun crime rate is going up.

You can't defend your position, your position can't be backed up with evidence or facts...you are wrong.

 

[Brain357]

This is no different than the Mob giving money to the widow of a made man they put the hit on.

Except you are a moron......the NRA does not support criminals, and does not support criminals getting out of prison, that would be the democrat party. NRA members are not making democrat cities into crap holes...that would be democrat politicians allowing criminals to shoot each other in their cities...

Call out the democrats....then you will actually post with more intelligence.

Sure work hard to arm criminals

How the NRA Hobbled the ATF

 

[Brain357]

"A vote for any democrat is a vote to end the 2nd Amendment!
Gun Registration = Gun confiscation
17.25 million Americans carry guns. Gun murder in U.S. down 49% since 1990s.
17.25 million Americans carry guns. Gun crime in U.S. down 75% since 1990s.
17 .25 million Americans carry guns. Violent crime down 72% since the 1990s."


nonsense. some democrats want to ban all weapons but most don't. I know I don't. I have no problem with you owning pistols and rifles. I would even agree to your owning automatic weapons as long as you were properly trained and licensed. I don't know a lot of people these days but of the few democrats I know almost ALL of them have at least 1 weapon. 1 has just a pistol and another one has a bunch of hunting rifles and goes hunting for deer every few years.

Did you know that in 1936 the germans litigated gun control and confiscation.....but only for NON white aryan germans!.......Would you be more amenable to gun confiscation if a conservative government promised they would ONLY take guns from liberals and progressives?

What part of my information that you listed is nonsense...please, be specific.

Here .... let me start you out...

First... yes...any vote for a democrat is a vote to end the 2nd Amendment...since the democrat party leadership gains more power with each democrat party office holder, and the entire leadership of the democrat party wants to ban and confiscate guns.


Second...

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware


Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Hey brah, from what I quote below from your link, nowhere does it mention that more guns are responsible for anything. Maybe you need a new link, one that supports your fartsmoke.

"What is Behind the Crime Decline?
Researchers continue to debate the key factors behind changing crime rates, which is part of a larger discussion about the predictors of crime.3 There is consensus that demographics played some role: The outsized post-World War II baby boom, which produced a large number of people in the high-crime ages of 15 to 20 in the 1960s and 1970s, helped drive crime up in those years.

A review by the National Academy of Sciences of factors driving recent crime trends (Blumstein and Rosenfeld, 2008) cited a decline in rates in the early 1980s as the young boomers got older, then a flare-up by mid-decade in conjunction with a rising street market for crack cocaine, especially in big cities. It noted recruitment of a younger cohort of drug seller with greater willingness to use guns. By the early 1990s, crack markets withered in part because of lessened demand, and the vibrant national economy made it easier for even low-skilled young people to find jobs rather than get involved in crime.

At the same time, a rising number of people ages 30 and older were incarcerated, due in part to stricter laws, which helped restrain violence among this age group. It is less clear, researchers say, that innovative policing strategies and police crackdowns on use of guns by younger adults played a significant role in reducing crime.

Some researchers have proposed additional explanations as to why crime levels plunged so suddenly, including increased access to abortion and lessened exposure to lead. According to one hypothesis, legalization of abortion after the 1973 Supreme Court Roe v. Wade decision resulted in fewer unwanted births, and unwanted children have an increased risk of growing up to become criminals. Another theory links reduced crime to 1970s-era reductions in lead in gasoline; children’s exposure to lead causes brain damage that could be associated with violent behavior. The National Academy of Sciences review said it was unlikely that either played a major role, but researchers continue to explore both factors."

Hey Brah..... you don't understand the issue.......

Your core argument, the only thing you guys claim will happen is that if more people have more guns we will have more gun crime......that is what you state, that is the primary tenet of your belief system with guns....

The actual facts from what I posted show you are wrong......as more Americans own and carry guns they did not increase the crime rate....so your entire belief system is wrong....


I have asked you to explain how it is that as more Americans own and carry gun the crime rates go down, yet you won't do that, because you can't....you simply hate guns and will not try to understand the truth, the facts or the reality.

Your link doesn't back up what you say, making it fartsmoke.

My link shows exactly what I say...... You can't deny, you can't refute it, so now you are acting like a child.....

As more Americans own and carry guns, our gun crime rates have gone down.....you say that is not possible. You say more guns = more gun crime....25 years of experience with more Americans buying, owning and carrying guns and the gun murder rate going down 49%, the gun crime rate going down 75%, and the violent crime rate going down 72%, shows you are wrong, what you believe about guns is wrong and that the truth, the facts and the reality are not on your side of the argument...

You can't make the case that more guns = more gun crime.....and Britain's experience just backs up the idea that banning and confiscating guns will actually increase gun crime since that is what is happening there, they banned and confiscated guns and their gun crime rate is going up.

You can't defend your position, your position can't be backed up with evidence or facts...you are wrong.

Crime went down after Clinton passed gun control.

 

[Taz]

"A vote for any democrat is a vote to end the 2nd Amendment!
Gun Registration = Gun confiscation
17.25 million Americans carry guns. Gun murder in U.S. down 49% since 1990s.
17.25 million Americans carry guns. Gun crime in U.S. down 75% since 1990s.
17 .25 million Americans carry guns. Violent crime down 72% since the 1990s."


nonsense. some democrats want to ban all weapons but most don't. I know I don't. I have no problem with you owning pistols and rifles. I would even agree to your owning automatic weapons as long as you were properly trained and licensed. I don't know a lot of people these days but of the few democrats I know almost ALL of them have at least 1 weapon. 1 has just a pistol and another one has a bunch of hunting rifles and goes hunting for deer every few years.

Did you know that in 1936 the germans litigated gun control and confiscation.....but only for NON white aryan germans!.......Would you be more amenable to gun confiscation if a conservative government promised they would ONLY take guns from liberals and progressives?

What part of my information that you listed is nonsense...please, be specific.

Here .... let me start you out...

First... yes...any vote for a democrat is a vote to end the 2nd Amendment...since the democrat party leadership gains more power with each democrat party office holder, and the entire leadership of the democrat party wants to ban and confiscate guns.


Second...

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware


Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Hey brah, from what I quote below from your link, nowhere does it mention that more guns are responsible for anything. Maybe you need a new link, one that supports your fartsmoke.

"What is Behind the Crime Decline?
Researchers continue to debate the key factors behind changing crime rates, which is part of a larger discussion about the predictors of crime.3 There is consensus that demographics played some role: The outsized post-World War II baby boom, which produced a large number of people in the high-crime ages of 15 to 20 in the 1960s and 1970s, helped drive crime up in those years.

A review by the National Academy of Sciences of factors driving recent crime trends (Blumstein and Rosenfeld, 2008) cited a decline in rates in the early 1980s as the young boomers got older, then a flare-up by mid-decade in conjunction with a rising street market for crack cocaine, especially in big cities. It noted recruitment of a younger cohort of drug seller with greater willingness to use guns. By the early 1990s, crack markets withered in part because of lessened demand, and the vibrant national economy made it easier for even low-skilled young people to find jobs rather than get involved in crime.

At the same time, a rising number of people ages 30 and older were incarcerated, due in part to stricter laws, which helped restrain violence among this age group. It is less clear, researchers say, that innovative policing strategies and police crackdowns on use of guns by younger adults played a significant role in reducing crime.

Some researchers have proposed additional explanations as to why crime levels plunged so suddenly, including increased access to abortion and lessened exposure to lead. According to one hypothesis, legalization of abortion after the 1973 Supreme Court Roe v. Wade decision resulted in fewer unwanted births, and unwanted children have an increased risk of growing up to become criminals. Another theory links reduced crime to 1970s-era reductions in lead in gasoline; children’s exposure to lead causes brain damage that could be associated with violent behavior. The National Academy of Sciences review said it was unlikely that either played a major role, but researchers continue to explore both factors."

Hey Brah..... you don't understand the issue.......

Your core argument, the only thing you guys claim will happen is that if more people have more guns we will have more gun crime......that is what you state, that is the primary tenet of your belief system with guns....

The actual facts from what I posted show you are wrong......as more Americans own and carry guns they did not increase the crime rate....so your entire belief system is wrong....


I have asked you to explain how it is that as more Americans own and carry gun the crime rates go down, yet you won't do that, because you can't....you simply hate guns and will not try to understand the truth, the facts or the reality.

Your link doesn't back up what you say, making it fartsmoke.

My link shows exactly what I say...... You can't deny, you can't refute it, so now you are acting like a child.....

As more Americans own and carry guns, our gun crime rates have gone down.....you say that is not possible. You say more guns = more gun crime....25 years of experience with more Americans buying, owning and carrying guns and the gun murder rate going down 49%, the gun crime rate going down 75%, and the violent crime rate going down 72%, shows you are wrong, what you believe about guns is wrong and that the truth, the facts and the reality are not on your side of the argument...

You can't make the case that more guns = more gun crime.....and Britain's experience just backs up the idea that banning and confiscating guns will actually increase gun crime since that is what is happening there, they banned and confiscated guns and their gun crime rate is going up.

You can't defend your position, your position can't be backed up with evidence or facts...you are wrong.

Your link is fartsmoke, just like you.

 

[2aguy]

What part of my information that you listed is nonsense...please, be specific.

Here .... let me start you out...

First... yes...any vote for a democrat is a vote to end the 2nd Amendment...since the democrat party leadership gains more power with each democrat party office holder, and the entire leadership of the democrat party wants to ban and confiscate guns.


Second...

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware


Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Hey brah, from what I quote below from your link, nowhere does it mention that more guns are responsible for anything. Maybe you need a new link, one that supports your fartsmoke.

"What is Behind the Crime Decline?
Researchers continue to debate the key factors behind changing crime rates, which is part of a larger discussion about the predictors of crime.3 There is consensus that demographics played some role: The outsized post-World War II baby boom, which produced a large number of people in the high-crime ages of 15 to 20 in the 1960s and 1970s, helped drive crime up in those years.

A review by the National Academy of Sciences of factors driving recent crime trends (Blumstein and Rosenfeld, 2008) cited a decline in rates in the early 1980s as the young boomers got older, then a flare-up by mid-decade in conjunction with a rising street market for crack cocaine, especially in big cities. It noted recruitment of a younger cohort of drug seller with greater willingness to use guns. By the early 1990s, crack markets withered in part because of lessened demand, and the vibrant national economy made it easier for even low-skilled young people to find jobs rather than get involved in crime.

At the same time, a rising number of people ages 30 and older were incarcerated, due in part to stricter laws, which helped restrain violence among this age group. It is less clear, researchers say, that innovative policing strategies and police crackdowns on use of guns by younger adults played a significant role in reducing crime.

Some researchers have proposed additional explanations as to why crime levels plunged so suddenly, including increased access to abortion and lessened exposure to lead. According to one hypothesis, legalization of abortion after the 1973 Supreme Court Roe v. Wade decision resulted in fewer unwanted births, and unwanted children have an increased risk of growing up to become criminals. Another theory links reduced crime to 1970s-era reductions in lead in gasoline; children’s exposure to lead causes brain damage that could be associated with violent behavior. The National Academy of Sciences review said it was unlikely that either played a major role, but researchers continue to explore both factors."

Hey Brah..... you don't understand the issue.......

Your core argument, the only thing you guys claim will happen is that if more people have more guns we will have more gun crime......that is what you state, that is the primary tenet of your belief system with guns....

The actual facts from what I posted show you are wrong......as more Americans own and carry guns they did not increase the crime rate....so your entire belief system is wrong....


I have asked you to explain how it is that as more Americans own and carry gun the crime rates go down, yet you won't do that, because you can't....you simply hate guns and will not try to understand the truth, the facts or the reality.

Your link doesn't back up what you say, making it fartsmoke.

My link shows exactly what I say...... You can't deny, you can't refute it, so now you are acting like a child.....

As more Americans own and carry guns, our gun crime rates have gone down.....you say that is not possible. You say more guns = more gun crime....25 years of experience with more Americans buying, owning and carrying guns and the gun murder rate going down 49%, the gun crime rate going down 75%, and the violent crime rate going down 72%, shows you are wrong, what you believe about guns is wrong and that the truth, the facts and the reality are not on your side of the argument...

You can't make the case that more guns = more gun crime.....and Britain's experience just backs up the idea that banning and confiscating guns will actually increase gun crime since that is what is happening there, they banned and confiscated guns and their gun crime rate is going up.

You can't defend your position, your position can't be backed up with evidence or facts...you are wrong.

Your link is fartsmoke, just like you.

You have no answer ...... you believe more guns will make for more crime, the Pew Poll shows the exact opposite happened and you can't answer that...so you are now left to making stupid posts...

 

[2aguy]

This is no different than the Mob giving money to the widow of a made man they put the hit on.

Except you are a moron......the NRA does not support criminals, and does not support criminals getting out of prison, that would be the democrat party. NRA members are not making democrat cities into crap holes...that would be democrat politicians allowing criminals to shoot each other in their cities...

Call out the democrats....then you will actually post with more intelligence.

Sure work hard to arm criminals

How the NRA Hobbled the ATF

Didn't hobble the ATF you moron.....it is the democrats who are releasing violent, repeat gun offenders while the NRA is trying to stop them..

 

[2aguy]

What part of my information that you listed is nonsense...please, be specific.

Here .... let me start you out...

First... yes...any vote for a democrat is a vote to end the 2nd Amendment...since the democrat party leadership gains more power with each democrat party office holder, and the entire leadership of the democrat party wants to ban and confiscate guns.


Second...

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware


Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Hey brah, from what I quote below from your link, nowhere does it mention that more guns are responsible for anything. Maybe you need a new link, one that supports your fartsmoke.

"What is Behind the Crime Decline?
Researchers continue to debate the key factors behind changing crime rates, which is part of a larger discussion about the predictors of crime.3 There is consensus that demographics played some role: The outsized post-World War II baby boom, which produced a large number of people in the high-crime ages of 15 to 20 in the 1960s and 1970s, helped drive crime up in those years.

A review by the National Academy of Sciences of factors driving recent crime trends (Blumstein and Rosenfeld, 2008) cited a decline in rates in the early 1980s as the young boomers got older, then a flare-up by mid-decade in conjunction with a rising street market for crack cocaine, especially in big cities. It noted recruitment of a younger cohort of drug seller with greater willingness to use guns. By the early 1990s, crack markets withered in part because of lessened demand, and the vibrant national economy made it easier for even low-skilled young people to find jobs rather than get involved in crime.

At the same time, a rising number of people ages 30 and older were incarcerated, due in part to stricter laws, which helped restrain violence among this age group. It is less clear, researchers say, that innovative policing strategies and police crackdowns on use of guns by younger adults played a significant role in reducing crime.

Some researchers have proposed additional explanations as to why crime levels plunged so suddenly, including increased access to abortion and lessened exposure to lead. According to one hypothesis, legalization of abortion after the 1973 Supreme Court Roe v. Wade decision resulted in fewer unwanted births, and unwanted children have an increased risk of growing up to become criminals. Another theory links reduced crime to 1970s-era reductions in lead in gasoline; children’s exposure to lead causes brain damage that could be associated with violent behavior. The National Academy of Sciences review said it was unlikely that either played a major role, but researchers continue to explore both factors."

Hey Brah..... you don't understand the issue.......

Your core argument, the only thing you guys claim will happen is that if more people have more guns we will have more gun crime......that is what you state, that is the primary tenet of your belief system with guns....

The actual facts from what I posted show you are wrong......as more Americans own and carry guns they did not increase the crime rate....so your entire belief system is wrong....


I have asked you to explain how it is that as more Americans own and carry gun the crime rates go down, yet you won't do that, because you can't....you simply hate guns and will not try to understand the truth, the facts or the reality.

Your link doesn't back up what you say, making it fartsmoke.

My link shows exactly what I say...... You can't deny, you can't refute it, so now you are acting like a child.....

As more Americans own and carry guns, our gun crime rates have gone down.....you say that is not possible. You say more guns = more gun crime....25 years of experience with more Americans buying, owning and carrying guns and the gun murder rate going down 49%, the gun crime rate going down 75%, and the violent crime rate going down 72%, shows you are wrong, what you believe about guns is wrong and that the truth, the facts and the reality are not on your side of the argument...

You can't make the case that more guns = more gun crime.....and Britain's experience just backs up the idea that banning and confiscating guns will actually increase gun crime since that is what is happening there, they banned and confiscated guns and their gun crime rate is going up.

You can't defend your position, your position can't be backed up with evidence or facts...you are wrong.

Crime went down after Clinton passed gun control.

No.....crime went down as more Americans went out, bought guns, and then started carrying them..... you can't explain that since it is the exact opposite result from what you anti gunners preach about the need for gun control.... more Guns, less gun crime, less violent crime, that is a fact. You can't explain how that happened since you believe it can't happen....and yet it did...

 

[Taz]

Hey brah, from what I quote below from your link, nowhere does it mention that more guns are responsible for anything. Maybe you need a new link, one that supports your fartsmoke.

"What is Behind the Crime Decline?
Researchers continue to debate the key factors behind changing crime rates, which is part of a larger discussion about the predictors of crime.3 There is consensus that demographics played some role: The outsized post-World War II baby boom, which produced a large number of people in the high-crime ages of 15 to 20 in the 1960s and 1970s, helped drive crime up in those years.

A review by the National Academy of Sciences of factors driving recent crime trends (Blumstein and Rosenfeld, 2008) cited a decline in rates in the early 1980s as the young boomers got older, then a flare-up by mid-decade in conjunction with a rising street market for crack cocaine, especially in big cities. It noted recruitment of a younger cohort of drug seller with greater willingness to use guns. By the early 1990s, crack markets withered in part because of lessened demand, and the vibrant national economy made it easier for even low-skilled young people to find jobs rather than get involved in crime.

At the same time, a rising number of people ages 30 and older were incarcerated, due in part to stricter laws, which helped restrain violence among this age group. It is less clear, researchers say, that innovative policing strategies and police crackdowns on use of guns by younger adults played a significant role in reducing crime.

Some researchers have proposed additional explanations as to why crime levels plunged so suddenly, including increased access to abortion and lessened exposure to lead. According to one hypothesis, legalization of abortion after the 1973 Supreme Court Roe v. Wade decision resulted in fewer unwanted births, and unwanted children have an increased risk of growing up to become criminals. Another theory links reduced crime to 1970s-era reductions in lead in gasoline; children’s exposure to lead causes brain damage that could be associated with violent behavior. The National Academy of Sciences review said it was unlikely that either played a major role, but researchers continue to explore both factors."

Hey Brah..... you don't understand the issue.......

Your core argument, the only thing you guys claim will happen is that if more people have more guns we will have more gun crime......that is what you state, that is the primary tenet of your belief system with guns....

The actual facts from what I posted show you are wrong......as more Americans own and carry guns they did not increase the crime rate....so your entire belief system is wrong....


I have asked you to explain how it is that as more Americans own and carry gun the crime rates go down, yet you won't do that, because you can't....you simply hate guns and will not try to understand the truth, the facts or the reality.

Your link doesn't back up what you say, making it fartsmoke.

My link shows exactly what I say...... You can't deny, you can't refute it, so now you are acting like a child.....

As more Americans own and carry guns, our gun crime rates have gone down.....you say that is not possible. You say more guns = more gun crime....25 years of experience with more Americans buying, owning and carrying guns and the gun murder rate going down 49%, the gun crime rate going down 75%, and the violent crime rate going down 72%, shows you are wrong, what you believe about guns is wrong and that the truth, the facts and the reality are not on your side of the argument...

You can't make the case that more guns = more gun crime.....and Britain's experience just backs up the idea that banning and confiscating guns will actually increase gun crime since that is what is happening there, they banned and confiscated guns and their gun crime rate is going up.

You can't defend your position, your position can't be backed up with evidence or facts...you are wrong.

Your link is fartsmoke, just like you.

You have no answer ...... you believe more guns will make for more crime, the Pew Poll shows the exact opposite happened and you can't answer that...so you are now left to making stupid posts...

Find a link that backs up what you claim.

 

[2aguy]

Hey Brah..... you don't understand the issue.......

Your core argument, the only thing you guys claim will happen is that if more people have more guns we will have more gun crime......that is what you state, that is the primary tenet of your belief system with guns....

The actual facts from what I posted show you are wrong......as more Americans own and carry guns they did not increase the crime rate....so your entire belief system is wrong....


I have asked you to explain how it is that as more Americans own and carry gun the crime rates go down, yet you won't do that, because you can't....you simply hate guns and will not try to understand the truth, the facts or the reality.

Your link doesn't back up what you say, making it fartsmoke.

My link shows exactly what I say...... You can't deny, you can't refute it, so now you are acting like a child.....

As more Americans own and carry guns, our gun crime rates have gone down.....you say that is not possible. You say more guns = more gun crime....25 years of experience with more Americans buying, owning and carrying guns and the gun murder rate going down 49%, the gun crime rate going down 75%, and the violent crime rate going down 72%, shows you are wrong, what you believe about guns is wrong and that the truth, the facts and the reality are not on your side of the argument...

You can't make the case that more guns = more gun crime.....and Britain's experience just backs up the idea that banning and confiscating guns will actually increase gun crime since that is what is happening there, they banned and confiscated guns and their gun crime rate is going up.

You can't defend your position, your position can't be backed up with evidence or facts...you are wrong.

Your link is fartsmoke, just like you.

You have no answer ...... you believe more guns will make for more crime, the Pew Poll shows the exact opposite happened and you can't answer that...so you are now left to making stupid posts...

Find a link that backs up what you claim.

I did......I showed you the increase in both gun ownership, and concealed carry, then I showed you the Pew research that showed that gun murder at this time went down 49%, gun crime went down 75%, and violent crime went down 72%.......all while Americans were buying and carrying more guns....showing that over 25 years, your entire argument for gun control is wrong, and has no basis in facts, truth or reality....

You are dodging the question because these facts disprove your entire belief system on guns and gun ownership....but keep posting silly posts....you reveal yourself over and over again.

 

[Taz]

Your link doesn't back up what you say, making it fartsmoke.

My link shows exactly what I say...... You can't deny, you can't refute it, so now you are acting like a child.....

As more Americans own and carry guns, our gun crime rates have gone down.....you say that is not possible. You say more guns = more gun crime....25 years of experience with more Americans buying, owning and carrying guns and the gun murder rate going down 49%, the gun crime rate going down 75%, and the violent crime rate going down 72%, shows you are wrong, what you believe about guns is wrong and that the truth, the facts and the reality are not on your side of the argument...

You can't make the case that more guns = more gun crime.....and Britain's experience just backs up the idea that banning and confiscating guns will actually increase gun crime since that is what is happening there, they banned and confiscated guns and their gun crime rate is going up.

You can't defend your position, your position can't be backed up with evidence or facts...you are wrong.

Your link is fartsmoke, just like you.

You have no answer ...... you believe more guns will make for more crime, the Pew Poll shows the exact opposite happened and you can't answer that...so you are now left to making stupid posts...

Find a link that backs up what you claim.

I did......I showed you the increase in both gun ownership, and concealed carry, then I showed you the Pew research that showed that gun murder at this time went down 49%, gun crime went down 75%, and violent crime went down 72%.......all while Americans were buying and carrying more guns....showing that over 25 years, your entire argument for gun control is wrong, and has no basis in facts, truth or reality....

You are dodging the question because these facts disprove your entire belief system on guns and gun ownership....but keep posting silly posts....you reveal yourself over and over again.

Your link doesn’t support what you claim.

 

[there4eyeM]

Now, if only those "good-guy patriot patrols" would circulate, all would be well.

 

[Rustic]

This is no different than the Mob giving money to the widow of a made man they put the hit on.

Except you are a moron......the NRA does not support criminals, and does not support criminals getting out of prison, that would be the democrat party. NRA members are not making democrat cities into crap holes...that would be democrat politicians allowing criminals to shoot each other in their cities...

Call out the democrats....then you will actually post with more intelligence.

Sure work hard to arm criminals

How the NRA Hobbled the ATF

The ATF is just another blotted government agency, run by civilian federal employees accountable to ne one. Lazy fuckers

 

[Rustic]

What part of my information that you listed is nonsense...please, be specific.

Here .... let me start you out...

First... yes...any vote for a democrat is a vote to end the 2nd Amendment...since the democrat party leadership gains more power with each democrat party office holder, and the entire leadership of the democrat party wants to ban and confiscate guns.


Second...

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware


Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Hey brah, from what I quote below from your link, nowhere does it mention that more guns are responsible for anything. Maybe you need a new link, one that supports your fartsmoke.

"What is Behind the Crime Decline?
Researchers continue to debate the key factors behind changing crime rates, which is part of a larger discussion about the predictors of crime.3 There is consensus that demographics played some role: The outsized post-World War II baby boom, which produced a large number of people in the high-crime ages of 15 to 20 in the 1960s and 1970s, helped drive crime up in those years.

A review by the National Academy of Sciences of factors driving recent crime trends (Blumstein and Rosenfeld, 2008) cited a decline in rates in the early 1980s as the young boomers got older, then a flare-up by mid-decade in conjunction with a rising street market for crack cocaine, especially in big cities. It noted recruitment of a younger cohort of drug seller with greater willingness to use guns. By the early 1990s, crack markets withered in part because of lessened demand, and the vibrant national economy made it easier for even low-skilled young people to find jobs rather than get involved in crime.

At the same time, a rising number of people ages 30 and older were incarcerated, due in part to stricter laws, which helped restrain violence among this age group. It is less clear, researchers say, that innovative policing strategies and police crackdowns on use of guns by younger adults played a significant role in reducing crime.

Some researchers have proposed additional explanations as to why crime levels plunged so suddenly, including increased access to abortion and lessened exposure to lead. According to one hypothesis, legalization of abortion after the 1973 Supreme Court Roe v. Wade decision resulted in fewer unwanted births, and unwanted children have an increased risk of growing up to become criminals. Another theory links reduced crime to 1970s-era reductions in lead in gasoline; children’s exposure to lead causes brain damage that could be associated with violent behavior. The National Academy of Sciences review said it was unlikely that either played a major role, but researchers continue to explore both factors."

Hey Brah..... you don't understand the issue.......

Your core argument, the only thing you guys claim will happen is that if more people have more guns we will have more gun crime......that is what you state, that is the primary tenet of your belief system with guns....

The actual facts from what I posted show you are wrong......as more Americans own and carry guns they did not increase the crime rate....so your entire belief system is wrong....


I have asked you to explain how it is that as more Americans own and carry gun the crime rates go down, yet you won't do that, because you can't....you simply hate guns and will not try to understand the truth, the facts or the reality.

Your link doesn't back up what you say, making it fartsmoke.

My link shows exactly what I say...... You can't deny, you can't refute it, so now you are acting like a child.....

As more Americans own and carry guns, our gun crime rates have gone down.....you say that is not possible. You say more guns = more gun crime....25 years of experience with more Americans buying, owning and carrying guns and the gun murder rate going down 49%, the gun crime rate going down 75%, and the violent crime rate going down 72%, shows you are wrong, what you believe about guns is wrong and that the truth, the facts and the reality are not on your side of the argument...

You can't make the case that more guns = more gun crime.....and Britain's experience just backs up the idea that banning and confiscating guns will actually increase gun crime since that is what is happening there, they banned and confiscated guns and their gun crime rate is going up.

You can't defend your position, your position can't be backed up with evidence or facts...you are wrong.

Crime went down after Clinton passed gun control.

Na, not really
Progressive controlled areas have been shrinking thus violent crime will go down...