Now Trump wants help from allies, allies fed up with Trump say "no"

Ah yes. Trump accuses people of being "freeloaders", among other things. Then thinks this is "diplomacy" and expects everyone to do as he says, as if he's their ******* daddy or something.

It's a JOKE. Trump is a ******* JOKE.
What is a joke is NATO who's been freeloading off of the United States for decades.
Trump has been asking them to chip in for years and they still refuse thinking that the Democrats are going to either assassinate Trump or remove him thru impeachment.
 
That you dont read information that proves you wrong
Information needs a point.

What is the point you're trying to make?

The conversation we're having is about which is the best country to live in.

You're posting economic data.

If you were talking about the economies of different countries, then maybe what you posted would have some relevance.

Maybe if you said that the best place to live is the one that has the best economy.

Then you'd be posting the wrong stuff. You could make the argument that the US has the largest GDP at $31 trillion and China is second at $20 trillion.

But then I would make the argument that you're saying China is the second best country to live in in the world, for you. So if you couldn't live in the US you'd move to China next. But I have the feeling you'd say this isn't so. So I'd say that you argument isn't very good.

So.... what's the point you're trying to make? I've asked you TWICE and you haven't had the capacity to respond. Which is ironic seeing how I've seen Gabbard and Bondi and Noem sit in front of Congress and completely incapable of answering questions, and ironic because I posted in a thread about "why you're on this forum" that most people on this forum are completely ******* incapable of making an argument and you're proving my point.
 
What is a joke is NATO who's been freeloading off of the United States for decades.
Trump has been asking them to chip in for years and they still refuse thinking that the Democrats are going to either assassinate Trump or remove him thru impeachment.
Nope. You have no clue about NATO, you don't seem to know what NATO does, and you don't seem to know what NATO has done.

The military spending of NATO countries is often based on what they actually do, or don't do.


The US is 6th in NATO spending in 2026. Behind Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and Norway.

The last time any of these countries was at war, was WW2.


The US went to war in Iraq and Afghanistan. It has troops in Japan, Germany, South Korea, Italy, the UK, Spain, Bahrain, Belgium, Cuba etc.

76,000 troops are in Japan and South Korea which have nothing to do with NATO.

How many troops do these other NATO countries have in foreign countries?

Poland, I searched, no results because apart from Afghanistan where Poland was supporting NATO (even though it probably shouldn't have been) Poland probably has zero to five troops in foreign countries at any time.

The same with most of the others apart from the UK which has a presence in about 42 different countries.

How much of what the US spends on the military is NATO?
The US spends loads of money on social security for those they sent to Iraq and Afghanistan
The US spends loads of money on developing weapons which is then sells. The costs are put into NATO spending stats and the profits of selling AREN'T taken out of NATO spending.
What the US spends on fighting wars and conflicts around the world are included in military spending. What the US uses to defend things that have nothing to do with NATO are included in NATO spending.

100% of what Poland spends is used to defend Poland (with the possible exception of spending on the Ukraine). The same for the other countries, minus the UK which went to war in Iraq with the US, went to Afghanistan with the US.

So, what you're saying is no true. People are manipulating you because it suits them to make out that other countries are not spending enough on NATO. The fact is the US isn't really spending that much on NATO.
 
Nope. You have no clue about NATO, you don't seem to know what NATO does, and you don't seem to know what NATO has done.

The military spending of NATO countries is often based on what they actually do, or don't do.


The US is 6th in NATO spending in 2026. Behind Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and Norway.

The last time any of these countries was at war, was WW2.


The US went to war in Iraq and Afghanistan. It has troops in Japan, Germany, South Korea, Italy, the UK, Spain, Bahrain, Belgium, Cuba etc.

76,000 troops are in Japan and South Korea which have nothing to do with NATO.

How many troops do these other NATO countries have in foreign countries?

Poland, I searched, no results because apart from Afghanistan where Poland was supporting NATO (even though it probably shouldn't have been) Poland probably has zero to five troops in foreign countries at any time.

The same with most of the others apart from the UK which has a presence in about 42 different countries.

How much of what the US spends on the military is NATO?
The US spends loads of money on social security for those they sent to Iraq and Afghanistan
The US spends loads of money on developing weapons which is then sells. The costs are put into NATO spending stats and the profits of selling AREN'T taken out of NATO spending.
What the US spends on fighting wars and conflicts around the world are included in military spending. What the US uses to defend things that have nothing to do with NATO are included in NATO spending.

100% of what Poland spends is used to defend Poland (with the possible exception of spending on the Ukraine). The same for the other countries, minus the UK which went to war in Iraq with the US, went to Afghanistan with the US.

So, what you're saying is no true. People are manipulating you because it suits them to make out that other countries are not spending enough on NATO. The fact is the US isn't really spending that much on NATO.
We defend Nato so their governments can pay for their socialism. ITs time to stop that
 
Nope. You have no clue about NATO, you don't seem to know what NATO does, and you don't seem to know what NATO has done.

The military spending of NATO countries is often based on what they actually do, or don't do.


The US is 6th in NATO spending in 2026. Behind Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and Norway.

The last time any of these countries was at war, was WW2.


The US went to war in Iraq and Afghanistan. It has troops in Japan, Germany, South Korea, Italy, the UK, Spain, Bahrain, Belgium, Cuba etc.

76,000 troops are in Japan and South Korea which have nothing to do with NATO.

How many troops do these other NATO countries have in foreign countries?

Poland, I searched, no results because apart from Afghanistan where Poland was supporting NATO (even though it probably shouldn't have been) Poland probably has zero to five troops in foreign countries at any time.

The same with most of the others apart from the UK which has a presence in about 42 different countries.

How much of what the US spends on the military is NATO?
The US spends loads of money on social security for those they sent to Iraq and Afghanistan
The US spends loads of money on developing weapons which is then sells. The costs are put into NATO spending stats and the profits of selling AREN'T taken out of NATO spending.
What the US spends on fighting wars and conflicts around the world are included in military spending. What the US uses to defend things that have nothing to do with NATO are included in NATO spending.

100% of what Poland spends is used to defend Poland (with the possible exception of spending on the Ukraine). The same for the other countries, minus the UK which went to war in Iraq with the US, went to Afghanistan with the US.

So, what you're saying is no true. People are manipulating you because it suits them to make out that other countries are not spending enough on NATO. The fact is the US isn't really spending that much on NATO.
Let's face it, European countries are a bunch of cheap bastards who are too lazy to even defend themselves.
They're used to the United States sending them whatever they ask because most of Washington is getting kickbacks from foreign aid.
 
Let's face it, European countries are a bunch of cheap bastards who are too lazy to even defend themselves.
They're used to the United States sending them whatever they ask because most of Washington is getting kickbacks from foreign aid.
Many European nations fear blocks of Muslim voters. We see this in England. They also spend so much on socialist policies they dont have any money to spend on defense so they depend on America. Its time to cut back and stop supprting them
 
Many European nations fear blocks of Muslim voters. We see this in England. They also spend so much on socialist policies they dont have any money to spend on defense so they depend on America. Its time to cut back and stop supprting them
Socialism leads to corruption.

Socialists spend money hand over fist and always introduce new taxes raising the costs of living, then blame it all on conservatives.

In America they've made the costs of building so expensive nobody can afford to buy a home anymore.

You have to pay at least 50% down just to qualify for a loan.
 
Let's face it, European countries are a bunch of cheap bastards who are too lazy to even defend themselves.
They're used to the United States sending them whatever they ask because most of Washington is getting kickbacks from foreign aid.

Or they defend themselves when they need to. They don't defend themselves when they "accidentally" bomb the **** out of a country and then get flabbergasted that the country would fight back.

Who have they had to defend themselves from? Only the US's allies.
 
What the ******* nonsense is this bullshit?

Care to try and back up your made up nonsense? No. Of course not, because it's all made up.
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Or they defend themselves when they need to. They don't defend themselves when they "accidentally" bomb the **** out of a country and then get flabbergasted that the country would fight back.

Who have they had to defend themselves from? Only the US's allies.
The EU is just a bunch of failed socialist states who are currently leeching off of other countries in the EU like Germany.

The EU as a group depend on the United States for security.

What were we defending them from?

What are you, some kind of idiot?
 
The EU is just a bunch of failed socialist states who are currently leeching off of other countries in the EU like Germany.

The EU as a group depend on the United States for security.

What were we defending them from?

What are you, some kind of idiot?

No.

But your response makes you look like an idiot.

So, bye.
 
So, are you telling me that you love everything about America and you never, ever complain about things in America?

But you act like people who do complain are seething monsters who want to kill everyone.

Trump has said so many bad things about America. Somehow America was SHIT under Obama, and then as soon as he got in, he made it wonderful, the as soon as Biden got it, the devil took over, and now it's all ******* roses again.

It's childish.
I do complain sometimes

Its my country and I want the best for it

Unlike libs who say we are founded on stolen land and deserve any bad thing that might befall us
 
Allies with TDS.... they have TDS so bad they are frozen in place and can't do anything that would benefit their nations... it really is pathetic...
Trump took their freebies away and they are crying a fit...
 
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I do complain sometimes

Its my country and I want the best for it

Unlike libs who say we are founded on stolen land and deserve any bad thing that might befall us

So you just ignore things that are inconvenient?

As I said, I'm about facts and logic, not about making up a fantasy world to live in.
 
Allies with TDS.... they have TDS so bad they are frozen in place and can't do anything that would benefit their nations... it really is pathetic...
Trump took their freebies away and they are crying a fit...
Ah, eejits who's argument is "but, TDS"....
 
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