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Join the Navy. Go to BUDS. Graduate. Join a SEAL team, rise through the ranks, become and Admiral, then take command of JSOC. That way you can fix these broke bastards and these operational fuck ups won't happen anymore.
Frankly, I think Obama had the SEALs execute OBL, because OBL and Obama are really brothers born in Kenya and OBL was about to sing to the National Enquirer and then turn himself into Sarah Palin while she was Caribou Hunting.
The unbelievably stupid responses tell me how wrong this is.
1. I'm not criticizing the SEALS! SO FUCK OFF YOU FUCKING ASSHOLES!!! If you dont have an answer just shut the fuck up!
2. I'm Glad UBL is Gone!
The one and only point is...why not bring him in?
Can someone explain to me why is it the SEAL Team was under orders to execute the unarmed highest value source of Terrorist information on the planet? If, in fact UBL was unarmed as one of he several different version of the raid suggest, why kill him?
Also, would be at all appropriate for Obama to use footage from his Ground Zero "I Killed Osama" Victory Tour for his reelection campaign, (assuming he in fact does get the nomination)?
And finally, UBL is dead, now what? Is the GWOT, er I mean the Overseas Contingency Plan to attack people who perpetrate Manmade Disasters now over?
The unbelievably stupid responses tell me how wrong this is.
1. I'm not criticizing the SEALS! SO FUCK OFF YOU FUCKING ASSHOLES!!! If you dont have an answer just shut the fuck up!
2. I'm Glad UBL is Gone!
The one and only point is...why not bring him in?
The unbelievably stupid responses tell me how wrong this is.
1. I'm not criticizing the SEALS! SO FUCK OFF YOU FUCKING ASSHOLES!!! If you dont have an answer just shut the fuck up!
2. I'm Glad UBL is Gone!
The one and only point is...why not bring him in?
You claimed they "executed" Bin Laden, but you aren't criticizing them?
How do you reconcile that, Frank? Even if you are going to run with the lame "Obama told them to execute OBL" bit, it still insinuates that these men would simply follow such an order.
The unbelievably stupid responses tell me how wrong this is.
1. I'm not criticizing the SEALS! SO FUCK OFF YOU FUCKING ASSHOLES!!! If you dont have an answer just shut the fuck up!
2. I'm Glad UBL is Gone!
The one and only point is...why not bring him in?
UBL?:lol:
Bring him in? Are you serious? Cost of a trial, keeping him prisoner? Waste of good time and money? No one knew if he was unarmed at the time.
Yes, someone gave the SEAL team the order not to capture him. It's that fucking simple.
The unbelievably stupid responses tell me how wrong this is.
1. I'm not criticizing the SEALS! SO FUCK OFF YOU FUCKING ASSHOLES!!! If you dont have an answer just shut the fuck up!
2. I'm Glad UBL is Gone!
The one and only point is...why not bring him in?
UBL?:lol:
Bring him in? Are you serious? Cost of a trial, keeping him prisoner? Waste of good time and money? No one knew if he was unarmed at the time.
Are you THAT stupid?
We're executing people now to save money??
I don't know if he was unarmed, that's just one of the many versions the Administration is spinning. assuming he was unarmed, why not capture him?
We can't torture Terrorists for information, but we can shoot unarmed men in the face?
Can someone explain to me why is it the SEAL Team was under orders to execute the unarmed highest value source of Terrorist information on the planet? If, in fact UBL was unarmed as one of he several different version of the raid suggest, why kill him?
Also, would be at all appropriate for Obama to use footage from his Ground Zero "I Killed Osama" Victory Tour for his reelection campaign, (assuming he in fact does get the nomination)?
And finally, UBL is dead, now what? Is the GWOT, er I mean the Overseas Contingency Plan to attack people who perpetrate Manmade Disasters now over?
You got a copy of those orders, Frank? Seems you're talking out your ass again about stuff of which you have no knowledge. Par for the course though. We see it all the time in the AGW debate.
I'd have preferred an execution like Sadam. The world seeing die humiliated and afraid would have ended the mythYou got a copy of those orders, Frank? Seems you're talking out your ass again about stuff of which you have no knowledge. Par for the course though. We see it all the time in the AGW debate.
One of the accounts said Osama was unarmed. If so, why shoot an unarmed man, especially a man who should have been captured alive at all costs?
Second, the day you find one single repeatable laboratory experiment showing how a 200PPM increase in CO2 raises temperature, melts ice caps and spawn will be the last day I ever talk about AGW. Don't derail the thread.
There was no reason to take him alive. Or, at least, certainly not to let the world know that we'd taken him alive. The last thing we want is for this administration to try this guy in court. Best thing, send him to Allah... there is no intel value to someone like Osama. But there is intel to be had, and we have that.
Dead was the best option.
Incarcerating bin Laden would have just lionized his image in they eyes of the Muslim world and turned him into more of a celebrity. It would have taken years and teams of lawyers to get bin Laden executed, and in the meantime young radicals would have had their resolve reinvigorated by the thought that their hero was being held in prison by the enemy. How many bombs would have gone off inspired by people who wanted to show bin Laden they honored him. Instead, already the media hype surrounding him is starting to die down. If he was being held somewhere right now it would still be at a fever pitch. I think the order to Shoot him and dump the body sends the most straightforward message to would be terrorists what we think of them. I think it was a brilliant move and good for the USA.
Incarcerating bin Laden would have just lionized his image in they eyes of the Muslim world and turned him into more of a celebrity. It would have taken years and teams of lawyers to get bin Laden executed, and in the meantime young radicals would have had their resolve reinvigorated by the thought that their hero was being held in prison by the enemy. How many bombs would have gone off inspired by people who wanted to show bin Laden they honored him. Instead, already the media hype surrounding him is starting to die down. If he was being held somewhere right now it would still be at a fever pitch. I think the order to Shoot him and dump the body sends the most straightforward message to would be terrorists what we think of them. I think it was a brilliant move and good for the USA.
About 3 years, by an Iraqi court. Had he been taken to the US for trial he'd probably still be alive right now going through the process. Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the primary planner of the 9/11 attacks, was incarcerated in Guantanamo about 6 months before Saddam was arrested, and there is still no trial date set for his prosecution.How long did it take to try and execute Sadam?
Saddam was a sadistic despot despised by his own people. He might have become a hero within the Muslim world had he been able to make a good showing against the U.S. but instead the he was humiliated by the American military not once but twice.Sadam died broken and humiliated and of no value as a martyr
We can't torture Terrorists for information, but we can shoot unarmed men in the face?