Now is not the time to renegotiate or cancel NAFTA - Bush

[Ravi]

Dobbs is a xenophobic reject. It's quite possible illegal immigration would have been even greater without NAFTA, there's really no way to tell. The only valid conclusion you can draw is that NAFTA didn't stop it.

 

[cbi0090]

Trade barriers has never benefitted anyone. History has shown over and again that they always come back and bite those who erect them and those they seek to balance. Free trade is the only thing that works. The disparity between the US and Mexico is a result of years of trade barriers and it's high time it be eliminated. There is going to be difficulties and sacrifices in doing so, after such a long time and where such differences exist, but it in the long run it will serve to benefit us both.

 

[Shogun]

bullshit. do you have evidence or, again, should we all just take your word for it because you say so?


You wanna know who IS a believer is protectionism? JAPAN.



hear any stories about their auto industry taking over OURS lately?



for real, the rhetorical bullshit really isn't all that impressive ten years after Reigle kicked greenspan's ass (video above) over the same rhetorical nonsense. You free traders are bluffing. You have no hand to back up that four aces you CLAIM to have.

 

[cbi0090]

Evidence? Just read history. You can go back as far as Rome, and find the same results using the same logic. Trade is going to happen, period. Government intervention, like most things that governments do, screws things up, badly, because it becomes politics. If there were a world financial system where imbalances could be farily measured and they had the power to dictate policies to fine tune and direct world trade without outside influence it could possibly be done, but that's a fantasy. When politics gets involved fairness, objective measures, rational thinking, go right out the window. It becomes a tool to sway opinion, make up issues, basically screw with the general population who are nearly completely ignorant of issues except what they hear in between commercials. Free trade is really just trade. Nothing more than it has been since prehistoric times.

 

[Shogun]

I dont think the preservation of a strong American economy is a a silly political construct.


Rome? gimme a break. Like I said, argue with the latest toyota achievement.

 

[cbi0090]

I don't understand what your trying to point out with Toyota? You might want to look at the list of top shareholders in the company before using it as an example of some kind. It's, in large part, American owned.

 

[Shogun]

The Toyota example conveys that absolute free trade, like what is being espoused, doesn't work like you think it should. Therefor, parading around like a greenspan mimic isn't really all that impressive ten years after Senators Reigle's predictions.

 

[cbi0090]

I still don't know what it is your referring to.