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It is doubtful we are going to have a clear winner yet on the morning of November 6th. There will be the inevitable red mirage just like in 2020. At the time the first polls close in the east the electoral map will be trending red as precincts report the results of in person voting during the day.
Then, according to state law in most of these states, the counting of mail in ballots can begin. These ballots have historically favored Democrats so, just like in every election, in the middle of the night those states could very well "magically" turn from red to blue.
Evidence of "cheating?"
No.
Just weird rules and regulations built into the system.
And then of course this year there WILL be challenges by Trump, and accusations of "fraud" and "cheating,"but only in the places he loses. The process of course will be "spot on" in all the places he wins.
MAGA election officials that have been installed in state election boards may very well try to delay certification of results in areas that Trump loses delaying the final results for weeks prompting lawsuits by Harris' campaign attorneys.
At any rate I expect this election will be decided in the courts rather than at the ballot box, maybe even in The Supreme Court.

Will Actions Speak Louder Than Words?

“One of the points that I often raised in 2020 is that Donald Trump had an absolute right to full statewide recounts in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, states he claimed he won,” Becker continued. “He would have had to spend about $20 million to get those recounts. He raised about $200 million in the aftermath of the election. He requested statewide recounts in none of those three states.”

The good news, the panelists emphasized, was that the legal backdrop going into 2024’s general election favors facts and the way elections are run. The bad news, they countered, was that the viral online media landscape favors propaganda.

Acknowledging that officials will make mistakes along the way, the panelists urged reporters to be wary of overreaching partisan bombast, false claims, and conspiracy theories. But whether the press can counter the weaponization of the process remains to be seen — especially as partisan headwinds are stiffening.

Trump has continued to lie about voters and voting, while saying his foes — “those he sees as working to deny him a victory,” as The New York Times put it — should be prosecuted if he loses this fall. And much of the electorate remains bitterly divided about trusting the process
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No matter which way it goes, it's a useful topic because it's a reaction to my suggestions of how it's going to be hard to get through without owning some new bullet holes.

This shit is for real Odd, and it's approaching a bit too fast to be saved for November!
 
No matter which way it goes, it's a useful topic because it's a reaction to my suggestions of how it's going to be hard to get through without owning some new bullet holes.

This shit is for real Odd, and it's approaching a bit too fast to be saved for November!
No, it's not a useful topic....It's the same disingenuous and duplicitous agitprop they peddled in '20, to set the table for stealing the election.

The entire nation of France can have its election counted and a winner announced on the same day, using paper ballots hand counted, but state a fraction the size of that nation won't be able to tally their results for several days?

Bull-fucking-shit.
 
I see no hurry in rushing the election count. No matter which way it goes both candidates deserve a week or two break before one of them will need to start assembling their administration and beginning the transition. The complainers will always find something to complain about.
 
No, it's not a useful topic....It's the same disingenuous and duplicitous agitprop they peddled in '20, to set the table for stealing the election.

The entire nation of France can have its election counted and a winner announced on the same day, using paper ballots hand counted, but state a fraction the size of that nation won't be able to tally their results for several days?

Bull-fucking-shit.
The reality is that very few that vote Republican stand up to it. We saw what they did to people on what is now called Jan.6. Even called it an Insurrection. With little or no rights. Until strong people with intelligence show themselves with support in more local areas it is almost suicide to resist. in the last approximately half century citizens of this nation have been reeducated. Reeducated to the point where insane things are sane. and loyalties are changing or have changed.
 
It is doubtful we are going to have a clear winner yet on the morning of November 6th. There will be the inevitable red mirage just like in 2020. At the time the first polls close in the east the electoral map will be trending red as precincts report the results of in person voting during the day.
Then, according to state law in most of these states, the counting of mail in ballots can begin. These ballots have historically favored Democrats so, just like in every election, in the middle of the night those states could very well "magically" turn from red to blue.
Evidence of "cheating?"
No.
Just weird rules and regulations built into the system.
And then of course this year there WILL be challenges by Trump, and accusations of "fraud" and "cheating,"but only in the places he loses. The process of course will be "spot on" in all the places he wins.
MAGA election officials that have been installed in state election boards may very well try to delay certification of results in areas that Trump loses delaying the final results for weeks prompting lawsuits by Harris' campaign attorneys.
At any rate I expect this election will be decided in the courts rather than at the ballot box, maybe even in The Supreme Court.

Will Actions Speak Louder Than Words?

“One of the points that I often raised in 2020 is that Donald Trump had an absolute right to full statewide recounts in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, states he claimed he won,” Becker continued. “He would have had to spend about $20 million to get those recounts. He raised about $200 million in the aftermath of the election. He requested statewide recounts in none of those three states.”

The good news, the panelists emphasized, was that the legal backdrop going into 2024’s general election favors facts and the way elections are run. The bad news, they countered, was that the viral online media landscape favors propaganda.

Acknowledging that officials will make mistakes along the way, the panelists urged reporters to be wary of overreaching partisan bombast, false claims, and conspiracy theories. But whether the press can counter the weaponization of the process remains to be seen — especially as partisan headwinds are stiffening.

Trump has continued to lie about voters and voting, while saying his foes — “those he sees as working to deny him a victory,” as The New York Times put it — should be prosecuted if he loses this fall. And much of the electorate remains bitterly divided about trusting the process
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Trump loses in overtime
 
I see no hurry in rushing the election count. No matter which way it goes both candidates deserve a week or two break before one of them will need to start assembling their administration and beginning the transition. The complainers will always find something to complain about.
Hogwash...We knew the winners of our election on the evening of the vote or early the next morning....The only one that got dragged out over days and days, and subsequently stolen, was 2020.

There is abso-fucking-lutely zero reason that the voting can't be counted inside 24 hours.
 
Hogwash...We knew the winners of our election on the evening of the vote or early the next morning....The only one that got dragged out over days and days, and subsequently stolen, was 2020.

There is abso-fucking-lutely zero reason that the voting can't be counted inside 24 hours.

That crap doesn't fly. Timing has no effect. Based on audit after audit, a correct call on our state's result was made in the timely manner you desire. Losers were crying about it then and they're still crying about it today.



 
No, it's not a useful topic....It's the same disingenuous and duplicitous agitprop they peddled in '20, to set the table for stealing the election.

The entire nation of France can have its election counted and a winner announced on the same day, using paper ballots hand counted, but state a fraction the size of that nation won't be able to tally their results for several days?

Bull-fucking-shit.
Dems need time to figure out how many trunks of ballots they need to steal it again.
 
That crap doesn't fly. Timing has no effect. Based on audit after audit, a correct call on our state's result was made in the timely manner you desire. Losers were crying about it then and they're still crying about it today.




There were no comprehensive audits, outside of Maricopa where they fond no fewer than 40,000 fraudulent votes.

You can twaddle on and on with the same establishment shitlib agitprop blabbering points, but that doesn't change that the Pedo Peter "victory" was a mathematical impossibility.
 
No, it's not a useful topic....It's the same disingenuous and duplicitous agitprop they peddled in '20, to set the table for stealing the election.
For the ten thousandth time no election was stolen in 2020. If you had bothered to read the article linked in the OP you would have seen the fact that convicted felon Trump didn't even request recounts in the states he contested.
Why not?
Because he knew that nothing had really been "stolen" and he knew that any recounts would only prove that and rob him of the propaganda he would use to fundraise off his rubes and allow him to continue into the future without having to publicly admit that he had actually LOST at something.
Instead he had his sideshow freak attorneys like Guilianni and ugly Kraken woman file over 60 bogus cases in federal courts, all of which were thrown out, that resulted in severe sanctions on the sideshow freaks for filing "frivolous motions" and wasting the court's time. At this point of course rather than finally admit that he had not only lost the election legitimately but now had lost over SIXTY separate challenges to the results, he simply doubled down on the lie and called the judges and the courts that had ruled against him "corrupt, bogus, illigitimate," and part of his fictional "deep state" conspiracy to steal the election from him....when the reality was that all they did was prevent HIM from stealing the election from US.
Of course his MAGAt cultists swallowed the ruse hook, line, and sinker, and as a result unwittingly find themselves in the ironic position today, just a little over a month before the 2020 election, on THIS VERY thread arguing about how we DAMNED SURE SHOULD know the definitive election results by the next day after voting.....still arguing ( three and a half years later) that the confirmed LOSER of the 2020 election was somehow the rightful "winner."
Go figure.
The entire nation of France can have its election counted and a winner announced on the same day, using paper ballots hand counted,

Total population of France = 67.9 million
Population of U.S.A. = 333.3 million
but state a fraction the size of that nation won't be able to tally their results for several days?
Most U.S. states a fraction the size of France will have their results by the end of the night....barring any shenanigans by the felonious, orange, hairball and his new sideshow freak, 2024 "legal team" so yeah....you are fake newsing here.
Bull-fucking-shit.
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How so?
Prove it? Elaborate on that in your own words please.
Or....if you can't.....maybe shut the fuck up?
Look at the total number of votes for president from 2004 to 2020.
Trump got 11,000,000 more votes in 2020 than in 2016, and lost????? NFW
The 2020 total vote count is more than two standard deviations from an expected value, that proves cheating. QED


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Living in a broken system with sorts that will do anything to excuse it is a tad tiresome ~S~
 
Look at the total number of votes for president from 2004 to 2020.
Trump got 11,000,000 more votes in 2020 than in 2016, and lost????? NFW
The 2020 total vote count is more than two standard deviations from an expected value, that proves cheating. QED


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It is rather dense of you to not even understand the record voter turnout in 2020 and factor those numbers into your "calculations."

 
No matter which way it goes, it's a useful topic because it's a reaction to my suggestions of how it's going to be hard to get through without owning some new bullet holes.

This shit is for real Odd, and it's approaching a bit too fast to be saved for November!
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It is rather dense of you to not even understand the record voter turnout in 2020 and factor those numbers into your "calculations."
LOL!! So 30 million more voters braved the Covid pandemic for old white guy Joe Biden than for Hillary or Obama? Bullshit.

If you drill. down into the numbers and research the voter turnout you see that there was massive voter fraud.

 
LOL!! So 30 million more voters braved the Covid pandemic for old white guy Joe Biden than for Hillary or Obama?
Yep
Bullshit.
Nope
If you drill. down into the numbers and research the voter turnout you see that there was massive voter fraud.
"But the political insider, who spoke on condition of anonymity"

Your link.....or attempt at "proof here is bullshit based upon a fake news piece that quotes an anonymous source's gossip.
You have just become the literal poster child for proving that The Big Lie is bullshit.
 
Yep
Nope
"But the political insider, who spoke on condition of anonymity"
Your link.....or attempt at "proof here is bullshit based upon a fake news piece that quotes an anonymous source's gossip.
You have just become the literal poster child for proving that The Big Lie is bullshit.
So now that Republicans pruned voter rolls where they could, and will be watching for voter fraud, we'll see where the total number of votes ends up in 2024. Back to normal, or 30m more than average, i.e. a new normal due to mail-ins.
 
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