Zone1 "Nothing creates itself"

[Frankenstein]

Can a universe be eternal?

Well God was first, and created the heavens and the Earth so I would say no!

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Well God was first, and created the heavens and the Earth so I would say no!

Yet the universe could still exist for an infinite amount of time.

 

[rightwinger]

Well God was first, and created the heavens and the Earth so I would say no!

It could have been magical fairies so how do you know?

 

[Frankenstein]

Yet the universe could still exist for an infinite amount of time.

Can you point to a specific time that the universe started?

 

[Frankenstein]

It could have been magical fairies so how do you know?

No it could not have been any such thing.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Can you point to a specific time that the universe started?

When defined as what we can ever observe, the big bang. But that is not the only definition.

 

[rightwinger]

No it could not have been any such thing.

I have never seen magical fairies
I have never seen God
Either could exist if I have enough faith

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

No it could not have been any such thing.

He says it could have.

How to tell who is correct?

 

[Frankenstein]

When defined as what we can ever observe, the big bang. But that is not the only definition.

What caused the big bang?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

What caused the big bang?

Nobody knows. There are a few plausible explanations that don't involve gods.

 

[Frankenstein]

I have never seen magical fairies
I have never seen God

I see God all the time, all around me, when I see another human, and the intricacy that goes into a human being he created, when I look at nature!

 

[Frankenstein]

Nobody knows. There are a few plausible explanations that don't involve gods.

There are none, but do go on

 

[hobelim]

Can you point to a specific time that the universe started?

Sure.

God created "heaven and earth" around 1312 BCE, when the Law was given as a light to the nations creating division, a world above and a world below, on this very same planet that was without shape or form (lawless) and void, (pointless) - already in existence for billions of years.

 

[rightwinger]

I see God all the time, all around me, when I see another human, and the intricacy that goes into a human being he created, when I look at nature!

Same goes for those magical fairies

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

There are none, but do go on

Yes there are. Do you think someone is going to knock on your door and tell them to you? Go read up.

 

[Frankenstein]

God created heaven and earth around 1312 BCE, when the Law was given as a light creating a world above and a world below on this planet hat was already in existence for billions of years.

 

[Frankenstein]

Same goes for those magical fairies

Then worship your magical fairies! Problem is you believe in God and you know it.

 

[Frankenstein]

Yes there are. Do you think someone is going to knock on your door and tell them to you? Go read up.

By all means share with me your make believe

 

[hobelim]

Ha ha.

If the story of the creation of heaven and earth was about the Big Bang or the first humans you might want to include in your speculations and wonder why it is that when the children of Adam and Eve, the first humans according to your belief, wanted a mate, THEY WENT TO A CITY.

 

[Frankenstein]

Ha ha.

If the story of the creation of heaven and earth was about the Big Bang or the first humans you might want to include in your speculations and wonder why it is that when the children of Adam and Eve, the first humans according to your belief, wanted a mate, THEY WENT TO A CITY.

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